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		By: jack		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/06/another-case-of-if-only-obama-knew/#comment-878032</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jack]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[This whole email flap is just another example of &quot;low and in some cases NO information voters that Dems count on to stay in power.&quot;

My wife is a yellow dog dem. Let me also say she is far from stupid. Sitting on the porch I mentioned Hillary sure is in a shit storm now. She said &quot;what&#039;s the difference using &quot;a personal &lt;b&gt; phone&lt;/b&gt; or a government phone! This wasn&#039;t a slip of the tongue. She didn&#039;t know this is about email and not phones. No matter what if Hillary gets the nomination she will vote for Hillary Clinton.

I&#039;d say my wife is a typical Dem voter and if the liberal media refuses to do their job Hillary has nothing to worry about from the Dem base no matter what comes out about her wrong doings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole email flap is just another example of &#8220;low and in some cases NO information voters that Dems count on to stay in power.&#8221;</p>
<p>My wife is a yellow dog dem. Let me also say she is far from stupid. Sitting on the porch I mentioned Hillary sure is in a shit storm now. She said &#8220;what&#8217;s the difference using &#8220;a personal <b> phone</b> or a government phone! This wasn&#8217;t a slip of the tongue. She didn&#8217;t know this is about email and not phones. No matter what if Hillary gets the nomination she will vote for Hillary Clinton.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say my wife is a typical Dem voter and if the liberal media refuses to do their job Hillary has nothing to worry about from the Dem base no matter what comes out about her wrong doings.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 20:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don Carlos:

I covered impeachment in that comment, if that&#039;s what you mean.

We are talking about the Republicans in Congress, are we not?  If you mean some sort of popular resistance, or resistance by some other group, that&#039;s a whole different topic.

Conservatives in general can certainly campaign for the election of more conservatives, also.  Lots of things people can do.  But the topic here was Republicans in Congress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Carlos:</p>
<p>I covered impeachment in that comment, if that&#8217;s what you mean.</p>
<p>We are talking about the Republicans in Congress, are we not?  If you mean some sort of popular resistance, or resistance by some other group, that&#8217;s a whole different topic.</p>
<p>Conservatives in general can certainly campaign for the election of more conservatives, also.  Lots of things people can do.  But the topic here was Republicans in Congress.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 20:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A) Pass bills that will be vetoed and not overridden: Obama wins
B) Shut down some or all government: Media wins for Obama
Do I hear (C)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A) Pass bills that will be vetoed and not overridden: Obama wins<br />
B) Shut down some or all government: Media wins for Obama<br />
Do I hear (C)?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 19:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve:

I&#039;ve answered that question about 1000 times.  And I have plans for a post or series of posts that answer it again.  Problem is I could write a book on it.  Where to get the time, though?

The short answer is that what Republicans can do is the following: (a) they can stop whatever it is the Democrats &lt;i&gt;would&lt;/i&gt; be passing if Democrats were in charge (think, for example, tons of Obamacares, but in other areas of government); and (b) they can defund certain programs while passing others in the same budget, but those bills will also be vetoed and therefore won&#039;t actually occur causing a shutdown.

If they shutdown parts of government or government in general, how do you propose they get around the MSM and Democrats framing any government shutdown as their fault?  They only have power to do 2 things: pass bills that will be vetoed, and shutdown government.  They already passed Keystone; look what happened.  If Obama is willing to veto everything they pass, their only option is a shutdown, and he&#039;ll win that one too.  Impeachment dies in the Senate for the same reason: not enough votes to convict.  I can well understand why they don&#039;t want to go that far only to lose, just to placate the angry conservatives (of which I am one, by the way, but I&#039;m Sancho Panza rather than Don Quixote).

I also am aware, of course, that not all Republicans buy into the conservative agenda.  But I believe the majority do, and yet their constituents demand they work miracles and do things that are not possible unless they have enough votes to override a veto.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve answered that question about 1000 times.  And I have plans for a post or series of posts that answer it again.  Problem is I could write a book on it.  Where to get the time, though?</p>
<p>The short answer is that what Republicans can do is the following: (a) they can stop whatever it is the Democrats <i>would</i> be passing if Democrats were in charge (think, for example, tons of Obamacares, but in other areas of government); and (b) they can defund certain programs while passing others in the same budget, but those bills will also be vetoed and therefore won&#8217;t actually occur causing a shutdown.</p>
<p>If they shutdown parts of government or government in general, how do you propose they get around the MSM and Democrats framing any government shutdown as their fault?  They only have power to do 2 things: pass bills that will be vetoed, and shutdown government.  They already passed Keystone; look what happened.  If Obama is willing to veto everything they pass, their only option is a shutdown, and he&#8217;ll win that one too.  Impeachment dies in the Senate for the same reason: not enough votes to convict.  I can well understand why they don&#8217;t want to go that far only to lose, just to placate the angry conservatives (of which I am one, by the way, but I&#8217;m Sancho Panza rather than Don Quixote).</p>
<p>I also am aware, of course, that not all Republicans buy into the conservative agenda.  But I believe the majority do, and yet their constituents demand they work miracles and do things that are not possible unless they have enough votes to override a veto.  </p>
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		By: ziv		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 19:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sgt. Mom Says: 
&lt;i&gt;I think this is part of a particularly vicious sub-rosa war between Obama and the Clintons.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;a HREF=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=iOxy_hy22CA&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Night We Called It a Day&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sgt. Mom Says:<br />
<i>I think this is part of a particularly vicious sub-rosa war between Obama and the Clintons.</i></p>
<p><a HREF="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=iOxy_hy22CA" rel="nofollow">The Night We Called It a Day</a></p>
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		By: ziv		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ziv]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 18:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Obama himself was unaware of any issues with Clinton’s email. &lt;/b&gt;

Possibly himself also doing it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Obama himself was unaware of any issues with Clinton’s email. </b></p>
<p>Possibly himself also doing it!</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/06/another-case-of-if-only-obama-knew/#comment-877857</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am wondering what the point is of having the House and Senate in GOP hands if they are just going to sit on them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am wondering what the point is of having the House and Senate in GOP hands if they are just going to sit on them.</p>
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		By: Sgt. Mom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 15:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I rather agree with Cornhead and Mezzrow, among others above - I think this is part of a particularly vicious sub-rosa war between Obama and the Clintons. They are perfectly willing and eager to destroy each other, and this email thing is only the opening salvo. Curious that it is getting coverage in the mainstream media - most usually the mainstream flacks run cover for both combatants.
Interesting, in a grim way, to see how the Clintons will respond.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rather agree with Cornhead and Mezzrow, among others above &#8211; I think this is part of a particularly vicious sub-rosa war between Obama and the Clintons. They are perfectly willing and eager to destroy each other, and this email thing is only the opening salvo. Curious that it is getting coverage in the mainstream media &#8211; most usually the mainstream flacks run cover for both combatants.<br />
Interesting, in a grim way, to see how the Clintons will respond.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 05:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[mezzrow,

Like Adolf, Barry is just making things up as he moves on.

It&#039;s the Chicago on the Potomac Show.

Brought to America by Harpo Productions, remember?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mezzrow,</p>
<p>Like Adolf, Barry is just making things up as he moves on.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Chicago on the Potomac Show.</p>
<p>Brought to America by Harpo Productions, remember?</p>
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		By: mezzrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mezzrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2015 04:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So then, it is clear that Obama is willing not only to pound the opposition and our national defense into dust to get his way on Iran/America/TogetherForever, but more surprising he will ruin the Democratic party to bring it about, at least as we see the situation on the ground at present.  This, to me, is the real surprise.  

What does Obama gain by ruining Clinton?  Again.  Now.  

Other than the personal satisfaction, that is.  

Who exists to be elevated into the on deck circle?  There are yet more shoes to drop.  That fact that I don&#039;t know where this is going as a domestic political matter leaves me to fear this just that much more.  He has always been ruthless, but this could be seen as undisciplined.  Maybe he&#039;s just making this up as he goes along, but he (not the country, just Barack H. Obama) keeps winning.  Winning even with the really crappy odds he keeps doubling down on and the constant stink of American strategic failure, barely concealed by the eager set of party operatives represented by the media.  

If he continues to exhibit this kind of indiscipline and takes HRC out at the knees, what will the David Brocks of the world say?  How much more can the Democrats lose as a party and hold their media shock troops?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So then, it is clear that Obama is willing not only to pound the opposition and our national defense into dust to get his way on Iran/America/TogetherForever, but more surprising he will ruin the Democratic party to bring it about, at least as we see the situation on the ground at present.  This, to me, is the real surprise.  </p>
<p>What does Obama gain by ruining Clinton?  Again.  Now.  </p>
<p>Other than the personal satisfaction, that is.  </p>
<p>Who exists to be elevated into the on deck circle?  There are yet more shoes to drop.  That fact that I don&#8217;t know where this is going as a domestic political matter leaves me to fear this just that much more.  He has always been ruthless, but this could be seen as undisciplined.  Maybe he&#8217;s just making this up as he goes along, but he (not the country, just Barack H. Obama) keeps winning.  Winning even with the really crappy odds he keeps doubling down on and the constant stink of American strategic failure, barely concealed by the eager set of party operatives represented by the media.  </p>
<p>If he continues to exhibit this kind of indiscipline and takes HRC out at the knees, what will the David Brocks of the world say?  How much more can the Democrats lose as a party and hold their media shock troops?</p>
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