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		By: g6loq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876885</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[*rational think and rational speak]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*rational think and rational speak</p>
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		By: g6loq		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876884</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Obama administration is removing all references to Islam from terror training materials, and instead the term “terrorist” is being applied to large groups of American citizens.
Below is a list of 72 types of Americans that are considered to be “extremists” and “potential terrorists” in official U.S. government documents.  To see the original source document for each point, just click on the link.  As you can see, this list covers most of the country:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-72-types-of-americans-that-are.html&quot; title=&quot;&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;72 types of US Americans&lt;/a&gt;

The groups of people in the list above are considered “problems” that need to be dealt with.  In some of the documents referenced above, members of the military are specifically warned not to have anything to do with such groups.

[posted at a previous thread]

Y&#039;all continue rational think and rational think and see what happens to y&#039;all ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama administration is removing all references to Islam from terror training materials, and instead the term “terrorist” is being applied to large groups of American citizens.<br />
Below is a list of 72 types of Americans that are considered to be “extremists” and “potential terrorists” in official U.S. government documents.  To see the original source document for each point, just click on the link.  As you can see, this list covers most of the country:<br />
<a href="http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-72-types-of-americans-that-are.html" title="" rel="nofollow">72 types of US Americans</a></p>
<p>The groups of people in the list above are considered “problems” that need to be dealt with.  In some of the documents referenced above, members of the military are specifically warned not to have anything to do with such groups.</p>
<p>[posted at a previous thread]</p>
<p>Y&#8217;all continue rational think and rational think and see what happens to y&#8217;all &#8230;</p>
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		By: Ike Jakson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876881</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 00:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Americans take the Bama far too seriously.  The man was born from the union of a white whore with a penchant for black men and a black drunk from Kenya.  Neither of the parents had any morals or any claim to fame.  But you got him; those who voted him in will have to take and deal with him when it is his time to go; those who did not vote for the silly bastard, ignore him.  He is a passing phase.

Except for Arab North Africa like Egypt and Libya who would like to burn him at the stake for the trouble he caused them; the rest of Africa has already put him in the past.

Let him fade away into obscurity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Americans take the Bama far too seriously.  The man was born from the union of a white whore with a penchant for black men and a black drunk from Kenya.  Neither of the parents had any morals or any claim to fame.  But you got him; those who voted him in will have to take and deal with him when it is his time to go; those who did not vote for the silly bastard, ignore him.  He is a passing phase.</p>
<p>Except for Arab North Africa like Egypt and Libya who would like to burn him at the stake for the trouble he caused them; the rest of Africa has already put him in the past.</p>
<p>Let him fade away into obscurity.</p>
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		By: KLSmith		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876867</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 23:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB: thanks for the reply. I still see this as a bit of a moot point. We are well on our way to having our right to free speech constrained if it offends the progressives. And if the new Obamnet goes forward, well...

Also, I don&#039;t see them going door to door confiscating weapons (although I&#039;m sure they&#039;d love to). The left is perfectly willing to play the long game. They will be grumpy, but they can be satisfied with making it too difficult/expensive to 
get ammunition or put gun stores out of business. 
I think it suits their purposes to curtail our freedoms on a de facto rather than de jure basis. They don&#039;t want to rile up the proles too much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB: thanks for the reply. I still see this as a bit of a moot point. We are well on our way to having our right to free speech constrained if it offends the progressives. And if the new Obamnet goes forward, well&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t see them going door to door confiscating weapons (although I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;d love to). The left is perfectly willing to play the long game. They will be grumpy, but they can be satisfied with making it too difficult/expensive to<br />
get ammunition or put gun stores out of business.<br />
I think it suits their purposes to curtail our freedoms on a de facto rather than de jure basis. They don&#8217;t want to rile up the proles too much.</p>
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		By: betsybounds		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876862</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just by-the-way, I think it is worth remembering that the man who originated the &quot;violent extremism&quot; usage was Donald Rumsfeld--coined in order to avoid offending Muslims and Islam.  Because (ahem) &quot;Islam&quot; MEANS &quot;peace.&quot;  Obama is what he is, of course, and the dangers we face are what they are.  But sometimes I wonder just what is going on, here.  Maybe some guy whose name rhymes with &quot;Beb Jush&quot; could enlighten us on that score.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just by-the-way, I think it is worth remembering that the man who originated the &#8220;violent extremism&#8221; usage was Donald Rumsfeld&#8211;coined in order to avoid offending Muslims and Islam.  Because (ahem) &#8220;Islam&#8221; MEANS &#8220;peace.&#8221;  Obama is what he is, of course, and the dangers we face are what they are.  But sometimes I wonder just what is going on, here.  Maybe some guy whose name rhymes with &#8220;Beb Jush&#8221; could enlighten us on that score.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 21:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;if they achieve one party rule what difference at that point does it make if the constitution is formally amended?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; KLSmith 

They achieve two important things, the first of which leads to the second, which pragmatically speaking is the more important. The first is legality and the second, support from the military. 

If the constitution is formally and legally amended, conservatives have no &lt;i&gt;legal&lt;/i&gt; basis for objection. 

While we all know that the theory of &#039;inalienable&#039; rights informed the thinking of the founders, the categorization of &quot;inalienable&quot; is not in the constitution. Because that is so, the military would have no &lt;i&gt;legal&lt;/i&gt; basis for claiming an order to be lawful, if under a new amended constitution it is lawful. The left could amend the constitution such that it could outlaw all private ownership of firearms or place severe constraints upon free speech and any other &#039;rights&#039; that today we view as &#039;inalienable&#039;. 

No American government can survive which does not have the support of the US Military, which is sworn to uphold the US Constitution. They must do so even if it has been gutted, as long as any &#039;amendments&#039; were legally done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;if they achieve one party rule what difference at that point does it make if the constitution is formally amended?&#8221;</i> KLSmith </p>
<p>They achieve two important things, the first of which leads to the second, which pragmatically speaking is the more important. The first is legality and the second, support from the military. </p>
<p>If the constitution is formally and legally amended, conservatives have no <i>legal</i> basis for objection. </p>
<p>While we all know that the theory of &#8216;inalienable&#8217; rights informed the thinking of the founders, the categorization of &#8220;inalienable&#8221; is not in the constitution. Because that is so, the military would have no <i>legal</i> basis for claiming an order to be lawful, if under a new amended constitution it is lawful. The left could amend the constitution such that it could outlaw all private ownership of firearms or place severe constraints upon free speech and any other &#8216;rights&#8217; that today we view as &#8216;inalienable&#8217;. </p>
<p>No American government can survive which does not have the support of the US Military, which is sworn to uphold the US Constitution. They must do so even if it has been gutted, as long as any &#8216;amendments&#8217; were legally done.</p>
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		By: OldTexan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876830</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OldTexan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[With 28 million people in Texas, maybe 2 or 3 million more non-docs there is more than enough crazy down here.  As noted above, today is Texas Independence day and it is day nine of the battle of the Alamo where they were not aware Independence had been declared. 

We are a few days away from the high holy day in Texas, March 6 1936 when the battle ended in Texan defeat and Texans remembered the Alamo on April 21 the Mexican army was defeated and Santa Anna was forced to order his troops out of Texas.

This is big stuff down here in Texas and some folks get carried away with thinking that the Texas did not really join the USA.  There is some mystery to the history and being 57% conservative at times, from the Governor on down lots of people think the Texas has more right answers that the Feds.

Some of the Independence guys went active nutty in the late 1990&#039;s and had a stand off and then gave in and the folks who had done criminal stuff went to prison.  George W. was governor at the time and unlike Ann Richards who in 1992 along with Janet Reno went charging into Waco &quot;for the children&quot;, the lawmen managed to bring that standoff to a non bloody ending in about a week.

Yep, we have enough people in Texas for every kind of crazy and some of it is more colorful whackiness than harmful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With 28 million people in Texas, maybe 2 or 3 million more non-docs there is more than enough crazy down here.  As noted above, today is Texas Independence day and it is day nine of the battle of the Alamo where they were not aware Independence had been declared. </p>
<p>We are a few days away from the high holy day in Texas, March 6 1936 when the battle ended in Texan defeat and Texans remembered the Alamo on April 21 the Mexican army was defeated and Santa Anna was forced to order his troops out of Texas.</p>
<p>This is big stuff down here in Texas and some folks get carried away with thinking that the Texas did not really join the USA.  There is some mystery to the history and being 57% conservative at times, from the Governor on down lots of people think the Texas has more right answers that the Feds.</p>
<p>Some of the Independence guys went active nutty in the late 1990&#8217;s and had a stand off and then gave in and the folks who had done criminal stuff went to prison.  George W. was governor at the time and unlike Ann Richards who in 1992 along with Janet Reno went charging into Waco &#8220;for the children&#8221;, the lawmen managed to bring that standoff to a non bloody ending in about a week.</p>
<p>Yep, we have enough people in Texas for every kind of crazy and some of it is more colorful whackiness than harmful.</p>
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		By: SLR		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SLR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[there has been a steady drip of stories of gov police training materials classifying right leaning groups as terrorist linked... but with an absence of actual terrorist acts. Been mostly in the fringe conservative press but the articles tend to have some facts (actual materials being quoted) that seem convincing. More facts than the gov can present that these are actual terrorist groups at least...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there has been a steady drip of stories of gov police training materials classifying right leaning groups as terrorist linked&#8230; but with an absence of actual terrorist acts. Been mostly in the fringe conservative press but the articles tend to have some facts (actual materials being quoted) that seem convincing. More facts than the gov can present that these are actual terrorist groups at least&#8230;</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876818</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Were I on a jury, I would automatically vote to acquit in a case depending on data from a seized computer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Were I on a jury, I would automatically vote to acquit in a case depending on data from a seized computer.</p>
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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/03/02/texas-raid/#comment-876816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Aubrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once the cops get your computers, you&#039;re toast.  They can install anything they want and you&#039;re screwed.  Child porn is probably the most potent.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once the cops get your computers, you&#8217;re toast.  They can install anything they want and you&#8217;re screwed.  Child porn is probably the most potent.</p>
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