That would require something that the GOP Leadership does not have in its DNA- Principles and looking out for the country before their donors.

The Dems in the Senate and Congress have sold their souls for Power and Control a long time ago. But these GOP Numb-nuts haven’t even negotiated that small reward. The just want to be “liked” by the MSM and their Patrons. When they pass on may they find themselves in the deepest levels of Hell for the damage they have done.

Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others. Groucho Marx

A people that values its privileges above its principles soon loses both. Dwight D. Eisenhower

John Adams, Second President of the United States of America.

I’m afraid he’s right. Our enemies have no honor; therefore, there is no lawyerly way of stopping them. You’ve pointed out, Neo, that the American form of government is really a sort of gentlemen’s agreement — and it isn’t honored by blackguards.

And that’s why we need a real press to investigate and uncover what is really happening.

However, let’s not pretend that the jam they face is one in which there’s a simple way out. There may not even be a way out at all, although there are ways that could offer at least a chance of an out. But the difficulty of the situation is why I not only am very frustrated with the Republican leaders (and some others) in Congress, I also am frustrated with people who say that it is obvious what they should do and that it surely would be successful. That is wishful thinking of the highest order–although I may agree with those people on the fact that the GOP should do it anyway.

I can tell you the first thing that you don’t do. Mitch McConnell Announces a Vote on Clean DHS Funding Is Coming; which, naturally resulted in, McConnell Throws in Towel on DHS Fight, but Reid Is Waiting for Boehner to Cave (Updated). Democrat leaders so little respect for their Republican counterparts that they’ve taken to rubbing Republican’s noses in their defeats now. Congressional Republicans have lost all credibility and respect of their enemies, the Democrats, and it’s going to take a long time to win that back.

The first thing Republicans need to do is decide what it more important to them; advancing their agenda or holding the office. If holding office is their priority, then they’re doomed to failure and will, eventually lose those positions that they so covet. If they seek to advance an agenda then what are they willing to stand for; to fight for, even if it means losing. Don’t get me wrong here; this isn’t about losing with honor or going out in a blaze of glory. This is about overcoming their fear of losing.

It’s the old adage about standing up to the schoolyard bully. The thing is that you know it’s going to hurt; that he’s going to hit you as hard, if not harder, that you hit him. But if you don’t, he’s just going to get worse over time.

KRB

matthew49,
“The power the Congress has is to appropriate or not appropriate funding for all government purposes. “

Obama, the democrats and the mass media’s argument will be that Congress has to appropriate funding for all government purposes that prior Congresses have legislatively approved… and that, Congress must legislatively retract or amend legislation lawfully enacted into law of which it now disapproves… IF it has the needed votes.

That is a legally valid argument to make and would also apply if the situation were reversed with a Republican President faced with a majority democrat Congress wishing to overturn legislation but lacking an override majority.

There is plenty of precedent for Congress to lower funding but not to selectively defund legislation enacted into law and held Constitutional by the SCOTUS.

It is definitely all of a piece and the two do indeed go hand in hand. To use a baseball analogy, any hitting coach will agree that without follow through, effectiveness is greatly reduced. You hit through the ball, not at the ball.

My concern is that the GOP will not act to bring vetoed legislation to the floor every time for an override vote. That they will only call for an override vote when they see a possibility that Obama’s veto might be overridden. That IMO would be a fundamental mistake (and de facto proof of either incompetence or betrayal) for the reasons previously stated.

It’s a given that an override vote cannot occur without legislation that is first vetoed. I give the ‘weight’ of which is more important to the override vote because I foresee that the majority of LIVs will initially buy into the excuses and misrepresentations that Obama will give for his vetoes. I think that for them to start questioning Obama’s veracity (as we hope) will take more than just his vetoing easily demagogued legislation (which is why it is so important that it be popular legislation).

It’s important to recognize that because of the MSM’s collusion in sedition, we are dealing with another “Teflon President”, albeit from the dark side.

And because that is so, turning around the perception that it is always the republican’s fault, will hinge upon whether there are continual override votes brought to the floor on popular legislation, that Obama has vetoed.

Exposing Obama’s obstructionism only has lasting value if it becomes the means to exposing the democrat’s obstructionism.