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		By: Otiose		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/02/02/its-that-day-again-2/#comment-869469</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks neo for the link.  I read all those comments last year and then some from other sites.  And, when I watched it again this year I was attuned to any clues as to how long Phil was there and I noticed Rita&#039;s comment.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks neo for the link.  I read all those comments last year and then some from other sites.  And, when I watched it again this year I was attuned to any clues as to how long Phil was there and I noticed Rita&#8217;s comment.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Otiose:

Take a look at the comments section &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2014/02/02/yes-its-groundhog-day/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and you will find a lengthy (how appropriate!) discussion of the answer to your question.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otiose:</p>
<p>Take a look at the comments section <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2014/02/02/yes-its-groundhog-day/" rel="nofollow">here</a> and you will find a lengthy (how appropriate!) discussion of the answer to your question.</p>
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		By: Otiose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 23:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How much time?  I was watching this again and in the bedroom scene at about 70 minutes in, the two Rita and Phil are discussing his situation.  She says that she wishes she had a thousand lifetimes, which would be about 70,000 years.  She could only have gotten the scale of his perdicament from him.  And after this scene he launches into his attack on sainthood squared.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much time?  I was watching this again and in the bedroom scene at about 70 minutes in, the two Rita and Phil are discussing his situation.  She says that she wishes she had a thousand lifetimes, which would be about 70,000 years.  She could only have gotten the scale of his perdicament from him.  And after this scene he launches into his attack on sainthood squared.</p>
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		By: Clarityseeker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 21:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gary wrote:
&quot;So I’m somewhat in agreement with Director Mitch, though I don’t think she’s quite that boring:

She is a bit vapid, hasn’t grown at all during this time, and quite frankly I don’t see why he (or any man quite frankly) would find her interesting at all.
1.) I am somewhat in agreement with Director Mitch...
2.) &quot;She is a bit vapid, hasn&#039;t grown at all during this time...&quot;
Hmmm.....I saw an admission of agreement. 
My bad. 
Thanks for the clarity...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary wrote:<br />
&#8220;So I’m somewhat in agreement with Director Mitch, though I don’t think she’s quite that boring:</p>
<p>She is a bit vapid, hasn’t grown at all during this time, and quite frankly I don’t see why he (or any man quite frankly) would find her interesting at all.<br />
1.) I am somewhat in agreement with Director Mitch&#8230;<br />
2.) &#8220;She is a bit vapid, hasn&#8217;t grown at all during this time&#8230;&#8221;<br />
Hmmm&#8230;..I saw an admission of agreement.<br />
My bad.<br />
Thanks for the clarity&#8230;</p>
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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 19:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Clarityseeker wrote (2/3 @10:24):

&lt;i&gt;Gary, Gary, Gary, seriously?
Rita is not supposed to grow &quot;during this period&quot;.&lt;/i&gt;

Did you read my comment? Here&#039;s what I wrote:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Also, unless I&#039;m missing something, Phil is the only character who has any opportunity to &quot;grow&quot; over the seemingly endless repetitions of Groundhog Day. My understanding is that every other character&#039;s slate is wiped clean and they start anew each day.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Did I misunderstand your point? Because it seems pretty clear from the above that Rita cannot &quot;grow &#039;during this period&#039;&quot; since her mind, like everyone else&#039;s except Phil&#039;s, is reset at the beginning of each day.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarityseeker wrote (2/3 @10:24):</p>
<p><i>Gary, Gary, Gary, seriously?<br />
Rita is not supposed to grow &#8220;during this period&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>Did you read my comment? Here&#8217;s what I wrote:</p>
<p><b><i>Also, unless I&#8217;m missing something, Phil is the only character who has any opportunity to &#8220;grow&#8221; over the seemingly endless repetitions of Groundhog Day. My understanding is that every other character&#8217;s slate is wiped clean and they start anew each day.</i></b></p>
<p>Did I misunderstand your point? Because it seems pretty clear from the above that Rita cannot &#8220;grow &#8216;during this period'&#8221; since her mind, like everyone else&#8217;s except Phil&#8217;s, is reset at the beginning of each day.</p>
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		By: CV		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My take on this movie is that Phil is a kind of Everyman (or everywoman, for that matter). We all basically &quot;live the same day&quot; over and over again. The question is, what do you do with each day? How do you respond to the people you interact with, from the love of your life to the homeless person you pass on the street? By the end of the film, Phil has learned (the hard way, through a lot of trial and error and common human shortcomings) that happiness or fulfillment lies not in self-satisfaction or selfishness but in self-giving. It&#039;s a simple message but difficult to live consistently. For most of us it&#039;s a lifelong conversion process, with a lot of falling short, but every day we get another chance to get it right.

Those who are focusing on whether or not Rita is attractive or 
worthy of Phil&#039;s love and attention are missing the point. It&#039;s one person&#039;s story -- Phil&#039;s. And Bill Murray was brilliant in 
that role.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My take on this movie is that Phil is a kind of Everyman (or everywoman, for that matter). We all basically &#8220;live the same day&#8221; over and over again. The question is, what do you do with each day? How do you respond to the people you interact with, from the love of your life to the homeless person you pass on the street? By the end of the film, Phil has learned (the hard way, through a lot of trial and error and common human shortcomings) that happiness or fulfillment lies not in self-satisfaction or selfishness but in self-giving. It&#8217;s a simple message but difficult to live consistently. For most of us it&#8217;s a lifelong conversion process, with a lot of falling short, but every day we get another chance to get it right.</p>
<p>Those who are focusing on whether or not Rita is attractive or<br />
worthy of Phil&#8217;s love and attention are missing the point. It&#8217;s one person&#8217;s story &#8212; Phil&#8217;s. And Bill Murray was brilliant in<br />
that role.</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something I very much enjoy about this film is how much is left to the viewer&#039;s imagination.  We don&#039;t know why Phil lives the same day over and over again; neither does he.  We don&#039;t know how long it will last, or even how long it DOES last.  (He can&#039;t keep track with marks on a wall, can he?  One gets the impression that, if he wanted to keep track at the beginning, by the end it no longer matters to him.)

Nor do we know if this is happening to anyone else.  We assume that, if anyone else in town was in Phil&#039;s situation, Phil&#039;s interactions with that person would change from day to day.  But perhaps it&#039;s happening one town over; Phil would never know.  And perhaps it happened to someone you know; you would experience it as a spurt of personal growth that happened to someone else very suddenly, but otherwise you&#039;d have no way of knowing, would you?

Perhaps it will happen to you someday.  And if it does, perhaps one of the &quot;frozen&quot; people around you will smile knowingly and say, &quot;Yes, that happened to me a few years back.  Best thing that ever happened to me.&quot;  (And then they&#039;ll say it again, day after day...)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something I very much enjoy about this film is how much is left to the viewer&#8217;s imagination.  We don&#8217;t know why Phil lives the same day over and over again; neither does he.  We don&#8217;t know how long it will last, or even how long it DOES last.  (He can&#8217;t keep track with marks on a wall, can he?  One gets the impression that, if he wanted to keep track at the beginning, by the end it no longer matters to him.)</p>
<p>Nor do we know if this is happening to anyone else.  We assume that, if anyone else in town was in Phil&#8217;s situation, Phil&#8217;s interactions with that person would change from day to day.  But perhaps it&#8217;s happening one town over; Phil would never know.  And perhaps it happened to someone you know; you would experience it as a spurt of personal growth that happened to someone else very suddenly, but otherwise you&#8217;d have no way of knowing, would you?</p>
<p>Perhaps it will happen to you someday.  And if it does, perhaps one of the &#8220;frozen&#8221; people around you will smile knowingly and say, &#8220;Yes, that happened to me a few years back.  Best thing that ever happened to me.&#8221;  (And then they&#8217;ll say it again, day after day&#8230;)</p>
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		By: Clarityseeker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dennis writes above:
&quot;Trying to find morality in a Hollywood film is like trying to find food in a trash dump. There may be something good there but you have to exercise extreme caution since so much of it is toxic.&quot;
_______________________________________

Not much different from the perspective of Rita. At least with regard to Phil. All she&#039;s known of Phil is his &quot;toxicity&quot;. So------she continually &quot;exercises extreme caution&quot; in being with Phil while on that &quot;shoot&quot; in Punxsutawney.
***I don&#039;t judge Dennis for his disdain for Hollywood. I actually join Dennis.
***Nor do I judge Rita for her disdain towards Phil. She is there with him in a professional capacity. It&#039;s her job. He&#039;s simply an irascible, contemptuous, egotistical fellow employee who she has to endure to get her JOB done. &quot;Toxicity&quot;......yeah, that&#039;s it...

Well said, Dennis.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis writes above:<br />
&#8220;Trying to find morality in a Hollywood film is like trying to find food in a trash dump. There may be something good there but you have to exercise extreme caution since so much of it is toxic.&#8221;<br />
_______________________________________</p>
<p>Not much different from the perspective of Rita. At least with regard to Phil. All she&#8217;s known of Phil is his &#8220;toxicity&#8221;. So&#8212;&#8212;she continually &#8220;exercises extreme caution&#8221; in being with Phil while on that &#8220;shoot&#8221; in Punxsutawney.<br />
***I don&#8217;t judge Dennis for his disdain for Hollywood. I actually join Dennis.<br />
***Nor do I judge Rita for her disdain towards Phil. She is there with him in a professional capacity. It&#8217;s her job. He&#8217;s simply an irascible, contemptuous, egotistical fellow employee who she has to endure to get her JOB done. &#8220;Toxicity&#8221;&#8230;&#8230;yeah, that&#8217;s it&#8230;</p>
<p>Well said, Dennis.</p>
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		By: Clarityseeker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 15:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gary, Gary, Gary, seriously?
Rita is not supposed to grow &quot;during this period&quot;.

That you don&#039;t get this is excusable. But for someone who labels oneself as a &quot;Director&quot; is a different matter. 

The one changing is Phil. Everything remains the same. Everything-------except when Phil returns the next day with a &quot;smidgen&quot; more learnin&#039; under his belt. 
IMHO, I see it that Rita has had far more experience with Phil PRIOR to the ONE DAY played over and over again. Just because he has learned to play the piano, learned to recite poetry, etc.---------it is all revealed to Rita in that one day. 
You expect a woman who has come to know the narcissistic, selfish, sarcastic, miserable nature of Phil over a greater period of time prior to that ONE DAY to be immediately enamored with him just because he&#039;s revealed some new characteristic on Groundhog Day which, to her, does not immediately counter balance (negate) all of his previous behavior?
Really?
Well, damn, she&#039;d be considered as pretty flakey if that did it for her. 
Nope-------it takes a lot. A whole pile of newly revealed (in one day) redemptive qualities to get her proverbial juices flowing in a different direction. Those who fail to see this somehow infer that Rita is not experiencing all of this &quot;change&quot; in the span of ONE DAY. They somehow infer that she too is experiencing Phil&#039;s metamorphosis over a great span of time and therefore should be adjusting accordingly. Not how it is---as written in the film. And, at the expense of redundancy, she&#039;s seeing each of these NEW changes in the span of a few hours following all of Phil&#039;s previously exhibited boorish behavior. 
Rita&#039;s character does not have the luxury of day after day after day to adjust to each change Phil has incorporated into his shtick. 
Wow, that which escapes so many people in grasping the different perspective of Rita, is stultifying. 
Those who expect that in the few short hours after arriving with Farthead Phil should be immediately bowled over, entirely swept-off-her-feet because he can ice sculpt, or recite French poetry. It&#039;s only because Rita has had months and months and months of experiencing and knowing the real heel, Phil, that she is not so easily swayed in those scant hours in Punxsutawney, PA. 
It takes a whole lot to undo the loser-lifetime of Phil.
Yeeeeesh...I&#039;m no chick and even I get it. Many of my male friends also appreciate the fact that Rita is only living in those few hours of Groundhog Day---as if it is ONCE. And that Phil is stuck in years and years and years of reliving, relearning that one 24 hour period. Dennis Prager also &quot;gets it&quot;, proclaiming this as his favorite film.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary, Gary, Gary, seriously?<br />
Rita is not supposed to grow &#8220;during this period&#8221;.</p>
<p>That you don&#8217;t get this is excusable. But for someone who labels oneself as a &#8220;Director&#8221; is a different matter. </p>
<p>The one changing is Phil. Everything remains the same. Everything&#8212;&#8212;-except when Phil returns the next day with a &#8220;smidgen&#8221; more learnin&#8217; under his belt.<br />
IMHO, I see it that Rita has had far more experience with Phil PRIOR to the ONE DAY played over and over again. Just because he has learned to play the piano, learned to recite poetry, etc.&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;it is all revealed to Rita in that one day.<br />
You expect a woman who has come to know the narcissistic, selfish, sarcastic, miserable nature of Phil over a greater period of time prior to that ONE DAY to be immediately enamored with him just because he&#8217;s revealed some new characteristic on Groundhog Day which, to her, does not immediately counter balance (negate) all of his previous behavior?<br />
Really?<br />
Well, damn, she&#8217;d be considered as pretty flakey if that did it for her.<br />
Nope&#8212;&#8212;-it takes a lot. A whole pile of newly revealed (in one day) redemptive qualities to get her proverbial juices flowing in a different direction. Those who fail to see this somehow infer that Rita is not experiencing all of this &#8220;change&#8221; in the span of ONE DAY. They somehow infer that she too is experiencing Phil&#8217;s metamorphosis over a great span of time and therefore should be adjusting accordingly. Not how it is&#8212;as written in the film. And, at the expense of redundancy, she&#8217;s seeing each of these NEW changes in the span of a few hours following all of Phil&#8217;s previously exhibited boorish behavior.<br />
Rita&#8217;s character does not have the luxury of day after day after day to adjust to each change Phil has incorporated into his shtick.<br />
Wow, that which escapes so many people in grasping the different perspective of Rita, is stultifying.<br />
Those who expect that in the few short hours after arriving with Farthead Phil should be immediately bowled over, entirely swept-off-her-feet because he can ice sculpt, or recite French poetry. It&#8217;s only because Rita has had months and months and months of experiencing and knowing the real heel, Phil, that she is not so easily swayed in those scant hours in Punxsutawney, PA.<br />
It takes a whole lot to undo the loser-lifetime of Phil.<br />
Yeeeeesh&#8230;I&#8217;m no chick and even I get it. Many of my male friends also appreciate the fact that Rita is only living in those few hours of Groundhog Day&#8212;as if it is ONCE. And that Phil is stuck in years and years and years of reliving, relearning that one 24 hour period. Dennis Prager also &#8220;gets it&#8221;, proclaiming this as his favorite film.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Director Mitch,
I promise you this. When you watch this with wife #8, you&#039;re gonna love it. It&#039;ll all make sense to you then...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Director Mitch,<br />
I promise you this. When you watch this with wife #8, you&#8217;re gonna love it. It&#8217;ll all make sense to you then&#8230;</p>
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