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		By: IGotBupkis, "'Faeces Evenio', Mr. Holder?"		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IGotBupkis, "'Faeces Evenio', Mr. Holder?"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2015 05:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m put in mind of what I think may well be the best Star Trek episode ever, a DS9 episode called &quot;In The Pale Moonlight&quot;.

The Federation is losing the war against the Founders, and needs to get the Romulans to get off the fence and come in on the side of the Federation/Klingon forces. Otherwise, the Founders will tear all three up piecemeal.

So Sisko gets involved in a plan to trick the Romulans into believing that they are being prepped for a sneak attack.

Yes, very, very unlike the ideals of the idealistic &quot;Federation&quot;, as Roddenberry suggested it was.

But then, there&#039;s a reason why their top-end vessels all went to space with a lot of firepower in their hands, too... but that part is left unsaid.

It&#039;s an entropic world out there, and ideals can only be applied so far. At some point, the survival of your meme is more important than the purity of your implementation of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m put in mind of what I think may well be the best Star Trek episode ever, a DS9 episode called &#8220;In The Pale Moonlight&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Federation is losing the war against the Founders, and needs to get the Romulans to get off the fence and come in on the side of the Federation/Klingon forces. Otherwise, the Founders will tear all three up piecemeal.</p>
<p>So Sisko gets involved in a plan to trick the Romulans into believing that they are being prepped for a sneak attack.</p>
<p>Yes, very, very unlike the ideals of the idealistic &#8220;Federation&#8221;, as Roddenberry suggested it was.</p>
<p>But then, there&#8217;s a reason why their top-end vessels all went to space with a lot of firepower in their hands, too&#8230; but that part is left unsaid.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s an entropic world out there, and ideals can only be applied so far. At some point, the survival of your meme is more important than the purity of your implementation of it.</p>
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		By: ErisGuy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The dilemma was the death of liberalism in the USA and the cause of its replacement by our current hateful, ideological regime.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The dilemma was the death of liberalism in the USA and the cause of its replacement by our current hateful, ideological regime.</p>
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		By: SCOTTtheBADGER		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 00:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TR once said that &quot; One must have an open mind, but it shouldn&#039;t be so free that geese roam freely about it &quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TR once said that &#8221; One must have an open mind, but it shouldn&#8217;t be so free that geese roam freely about it &#8220;.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/01/20/the-liberal-regimes-dilemma/#comment-864861</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 23:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[artfldgr, &quot;no…. that is not true… our leaders do NOT HAVE to do anything… we as a people have to exchange those leaders for others, and stop making power pleas to totalitarians to fix things by including in our speeches the idea that X needs do this, and Y has to do this..&quot; 

True, that.  It&#039;s up to we the people to get the leaders we need.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>artfldgr, &#8220;no…. that is not true… our leaders do NOT HAVE to do anything… we as a people have to exchange those leaders for others, and stop making power pleas to totalitarians to fix things by including in our speeches the idea that X needs do this, and Y has to do this..&#8221; </p>
<p>True, that.  It&#8217;s up to we the people to get the leaders we need.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/01/20/the-liberal-regimes-dilemma/#comment-864850</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 22:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Late to the thread, but I have 5 rifles, 1 shotgun, and 2 handguns. I reload for all but my sole 22LR. I have at a minimum of 5000 rounds for every center fire round I routinely shoot, and I routinely shoot every round my firearms chamber. Unintended consequences rules the 2nd revolution.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the thread, but I have 5 rifles, 1 shotgun, and 2 handguns. I reload for all but my sole 22LR. I have at a minimum of 5000 rounds for every center fire round I routinely shoot, and I routinely shoot every round my firearms chamber. Unintended consequences rules the 2nd revolution.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2015/01/20/the-liberal-regimes-dilemma/#comment-864742</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 17:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Pretty heavy for a schoolmarm”

yes, but can you imagine the resale? 
this M1A1 was only used by a kindergarden teacher on the weekends... :) 

(remembering the old jokes about used car sales)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty heavy for a schoolmarm”</p>
<p>yes, but can you imagine the resale?<br />
this M1A1 was only used by a kindergarden teacher on the weekends&#8230; 🙂 </p>
<p>(remembering the old jokes about used car sales)</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 17:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Our leaders need to recognize that there is a conflict between these two systems of governance that can only be settled when Islam changes and becomes a tolerant religion that is divorced from government or when they are defeated in battle. 

no.... that is not true... our leaders do NOT HAVE to do anything... we as a people have to exchange those leaders for others, and stop making power pleas to totalitarians to fix things by including in our speeches the idea that X needs do this, and Y has to do this... 

we as a people should only decide to exchange such people for  the kinds of people who would lead the way we want, or should be led, and do not expect totalitarian socialists plying their adjenda to listen to such corrective missives - unless such missives further their own goals and feather their beds. 

i hear the feinsteins are going to make over a billion on the cuba deal... who do you think they would listen to, a tiny nobody like me speaking in exposition of what they need pretending self importance, or the idea they could walk away with a billion dollars and buy a tiny country of their own?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our leaders need to recognize that there is a conflict between these two systems of governance that can only be settled when Islam changes and becomes a tolerant religion that is divorced from government or when they are defeated in battle. </p>
<p>no&#8230;. that is not true&#8230; our leaders do NOT HAVE to do anything&#8230; we as a people have to exchange those leaders for others, and stop making power pleas to totalitarians to fix things by including in our speeches the idea that X needs do this, and Y has to do this&#8230; </p>
<p>we as a people should only decide to exchange such people for  the kinds of people who would lead the way we want, or should be led, and do not expect totalitarian socialists plying their adjenda to listen to such corrective missives &#8211; unless such missives further their own goals and feather their beds. </p>
<p>i hear the feinsteins are going to make over a billion on the cuba deal&#8230; who do you think they would listen to, a tiny nobody like me speaking in exposition of what they need pretending self importance, or the idea they could walk away with a billion dollars and buy a tiny country of their own?</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 17:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem is not that they are open, but how certain groups sell that openess, or define how that oppeness should exist. 

the idea that a person cant be open and freindly, but still carry a weapon in case of unfreindly is not the norm in how they cell it... they sell it nowmore like laying on your back and exposing your belly to any and all comers, some of which will slit it on passing.  that is idiocy, but in now way defining liberalism... it defines idiocy as liberalism so that we lie down and get eviscerated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is not that they are open, but how certain groups sell that openess, or define how that oppeness should exist. </p>
<p>the idea that a person cant be open and freindly, but still carry a weapon in case of unfreindly is not the norm in how they cell it&#8230; they sell it nowmore like laying on your back and exposing your belly to any and all comers, some of which will slit it on passing.  that is idiocy, but in now way defining liberalism&#8230; it defines idiocy as liberalism so that we lie down and get eviscerated.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Ahem,&lt;/b&gt;

&quot;I was in a local shop doing my part for small business by paying an exorbitant price for a box of Swiss 7.5 for a pristine K31 straight pull I was remodeling as a camp gun ...&quot;

&lt;b&gt;as I was saying ...&lt;/b&gt; &quot; a few years ago, when the disgusted proprietor looked up at me and said, &#039;Any chance you want a Springfield Armory M1A1 ?&#039; 
How much?

&quot;$1,395.00&quot;

&quot;No thanks. I&#039;m all gunned up anyway. What&#039;s the problem?&quot;

He says, &quot;I have all these people who have never owned a gun before swamping me with orders. This one is for some woman, a school teacher I think, who doesn&#039;t even know what she bought. I have been waiting 2 weeks for her to pick it up&quot;

&quot;Pretty heavy for a schoolmarm&quot;

&quot;Yeah, like I said ...&quot;

Anyway I suppose it may be better to make a convert than watch an obnoxious sinner writhe and stew in their own left-wing ideological juices. 

Maybe.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Ahem,</b></p>
<p>&#8220;I was in a local shop doing my part for small business by paying an exorbitant price for a box of Swiss 7.5 for a pristine K31 straight pull I was remodeling as a camp gun &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><b>as I was saying &#8230;</b> &#8221; a few years ago, when the disgusted proprietor looked up at me and said, &#8216;Any chance you want a Springfield Armory M1A1 ?&#8217;<br />
How much?</p>
<p>&#8220;$1,395.00&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;No thanks. I&#8217;m all gunned up anyway. What&#8217;s the problem?&#8221;</p>
<p>He says, &#8220;I have all these people who have never owned a gun before swamping me with orders. This one is for some woman, a school teacher I think, who doesn&#8217;t even know what she bought. I have been waiting 2 weeks for her to pick it up&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pretty heavy for a schoolmarm&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, like I said &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway I suppose it may be better to make a convert than watch an obnoxious sinner writhe and stew in their own left-wing ideological juices. </p>
<p>Maybe.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2015 16:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lurker Says:
January 21st, 2015 at 12:00 am

Mr. Frank,
There are over three HUNDRED million firearms and trillions of rounds of ammo in the hands of civilians.

American civilians have acquired more new arms during the reign of the Sun King than all the worlds armies combined. We are armed to the effing teeth.

Lest you believe that BS about fewer homes having arms, here is a true tale…

I helped a lib I know get all set up with an evil black rifle right before the great panic of ’13. This person quoted that BS study to me one day. I asked “you now have a gun, if a stranger calls claiming to be from Gallup or Pew or whomever asking you about guns in your house, would you tell them?”
After a few moments of silence I got back a weak “no”.
I said “aha, the sleeper has awaken”.

I was in a local shop doing my part for small business by paying an exorbitant price for a box of Swiss 7.5 for a pristine K31 straight pull I was remodeling as a camp gun

I think we all have by now accepted the fact that liberal pacifism is largely an illusion, or a kind of social camouflage they put out.  

They don&#039;t like guns when they have no use for one and you do. Other than that they are fine with both guns and violence.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lurker Says:<br />
January 21st, 2015 at 12:00 am</p>
<p>Mr. Frank,<br />
There are over three HUNDRED million firearms and trillions of rounds of ammo in the hands of civilians.</p>
<p>American civilians have acquired more new arms during the reign of the Sun King than all the worlds armies combined. We are armed to the effing teeth.</p>
<p>Lest you believe that BS about fewer homes having arms, here is a true tale…</p>
<p>I helped a lib I know get all set up with an evil black rifle right before the great panic of ’13. This person quoted that BS study to me one day. I asked “you now have a gun, if a stranger calls claiming to be from Gallup or Pew or whomever asking you about guns in your house, would you tell them?”<br />
After a few moments of silence I got back a weak “no”.<br />
I said “aha, the sleeper has awaken”.</p>
<p>I was in a local shop doing my part for small business by paying an exorbitant price for a box of Swiss 7.5 for a pristine K31 straight pull I was remodeling as a camp gun</p>
<p>I think we all have by now accepted the fact that liberal pacifism is largely an illusion, or a kind of social camouflage they put out.  </p>
<p>They don&#8217;t like guns when they have no use for one and you do. Other than that they are fine with both guns and violence.</p>
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