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		By: Sasshole		</title>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jacques Brel predicted the rise of Obama in the &#039;60s:

&quot;If I could be for only a moment,
If I could be for one moment each day.
If i could be for just one little moment --
Cute, cute, cute in a stupid-ass way!&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacques Brel predicted the rise of Obama in the &#8217;60s:</p>
<p>&#8220;If I could be for only a moment,<br />
If I could be for one moment each day.<br />
If i could be for just one little moment &#8212;<br />
Cute, cute, cute in a stupid-ass way!&#8221;</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 20:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; Kerry believes in energy independence, so we aren’t held hostage to the profits of oil companies or the sabotage of foreign oil fields…&lt;/b&gt;
As Neo points out, Obama was  being deceptive. He was simply reciting a speech, not stating anything that he actually supported. To help document how the above statement was  an example of Obama  BSing us, I present the following. 
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama considered domestic drilling to be &lt;b&gt;unnecessary&lt;/b&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated – simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling – if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You’d actually save just as much!&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;No need to drill for gas or oil. Just inflate your tires and get tuneups. Utter ignorance. It is certainly not the attitude of someone with a positive attitude towards domestic drilling for gas and oil. 
Obama in 2012: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/02/25/weekly-address-all-above-approach-american-energy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;WEEKLY ADDRESS: An All-Of-The-Above Approach to American Energy:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; Now, some politicians always see this as a political opportunity.  And since it’s an election year, they’re already dusting off their three-point plans for $2 gas.  I’ll save you the suspense:  Step one is drill, step two is drill, and step three is keep drilling.  We hear the same thing every year. 

Well the American people aren’t stupid.  You know that’s not a plan — especially since we’re already drilling.  It’s a bumper sticker.  It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge.  It’s a strategy to get politicians through an election. &lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;That is a straw-man argument. Look at George W. Bush. Obama would undoubtedly label good ol&#039; Dubya as the paradigm of the so-called &quot;drill, drill and only drill&quot; approach in Obama&#039;s strawman argument. Governor Bush supported and helped push through a bill through the Texas legislature which supported wind energy. Result: Texas has the most wind energy production in the country. 


From Obama&#039;s 2012 address: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;You know there are no quick fixes to this problem, and you know we can’t just drill our way to lower gas[oline] prices.&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;Summation of Obama in 2008 and 2012: drilling is not necessary, and it won&#039;t work. Further summary of Obama in 2008 and 2012: when it comes to energy, he doesn&#039;t know from nothing. 
Also from his &quot;All of the Above&quot; statement in 2012: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt; Now, we absolutely need safe, responsible oil production here in America.  That’s why under my Administration, America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years.  In 2010, our dependence on foreign oil was under 50% for the first time in more than a decade. &lt;/i&gt; &lt;/blockquote&gt;That increase in domestic production has come about with no thanks to the Obama Administration. None of the increase in domestic production comes from leases on government-owned lands. 

The Obama Administration&#039;s reaction to the Macondo/BP blowout shows its indifference to hostility towards domestic drilling. A panel of experts recommended that drilling in the Gulf continue after the blowout, with good reason. BP violated a slew of industry accepted practices in blowing out the Macondo well. [Truly a company that correctly billed itself as Beyond Petroleum, as in beyond accepted petroleum industry practices. Not just at Macondo. either. I heard some stories from somone who retired from BP.] Follow those accepted practices, and you shouldn&#039;t have such a problem. Shut BP down- yes- but not the others. But Interior Secretary Salazar, undoubtedly with the approval of President Obama, shut down drilling in the Gulf, falsely claiming that the expert panel had recommended such a shutdown. 

Summation: Obama&#039;s 2004 statement about energy  was simply something for him to recite, not something that reflected his opinions on energy. Deceptive? Hell, yes.


http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/04/why-the-tire-pressure-gauge-stings/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> Kerry believes in energy independence, so we aren’t held hostage to the profits of oil companies or the sabotage of foreign oil fields…</b><br />
As Neo points out, Obama was  being deceptive. He was simply reciting a speech, not stating anything that he actually supported. To help document how the above statement was  an example of Obama  BSing us, I present the following.<br />
During the 2008 presidential campaign, Obama considered domestic drilling to be <b>unnecessary</b>:</p>
<blockquote><p><i> There are things you can do individually, though, to save energy. Making sure your tires are properly inflated – simple thing. But we could save all the oil that they’re talking about getting off drilling – if everybody was just inflating their tires? And getting regular tune-ups? You’d actually save just as much!</i> </p></blockquote>
<p>No need to drill for gas or oil. Just inflate your tires and get tuneups. Utter ignorance. It is certainly not the attitude of someone with a positive attitude towards domestic drilling for gas and oil.<br />
Obama in 2012: <a href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/02/25/weekly-address-all-above-approach-american-energy" rel="nofollow">WEEKLY ADDRESS: An All-Of-The-Above Approach to American Energy:</a></p>
<blockquote><p><i> Now, some politicians always see this as a political opportunity.  And since it’s an election year, they’re already dusting off their three-point plans for $2 gas.  I’ll save you the suspense:  Step one is drill, step two is drill, and step three is keep drilling.  We hear the same thing every year. </p>
<p>Well the American people aren’t stupid.  You know that’s not a plan — especially since we’re already drilling.  It’s a bumper sticker.  It’s not a strategy to solve our energy challenge.  It’s a strategy to get politicians through an election. </i> </p></blockquote>
<p>That is a straw-man argument. Look at George W. Bush. Obama would undoubtedly label good ol&#8217; Dubya as the paradigm of the so-called &#8220;drill, drill and only drill&#8221; approach in Obama&#8217;s strawman argument. Governor Bush supported and helped push through a bill through the Texas legislature which supported wind energy. Result: Texas has the most wind energy production in the country. </p>
<p>From Obama&#8217;s 2012 address: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>You know there are no quick fixes to this problem, and you know we can’t just drill our way to lower gas[oline] prices.</i> </p></blockquote>
<p>Summation of Obama in 2008 and 2012: drilling is not necessary, and it won&#8217;t work. Further summary of Obama in 2008 and 2012: when it comes to energy, he doesn&#8217;t know from nothing.<br />
Also from his &#8220;All of the Above&#8221; statement in 2012: </p>
<blockquote><p><i> Now, we absolutely need safe, responsible oil production here in America.  That’s why under my Administration, America is producing more oil today than at any time in the last eight years.  In 2010, our dependence on foreign oil was under 50% for the first time in more than a decade. </i> </p></blockquote>
<p>That increase in domestic production has come about with no thanks to the Obama Administration. None of the increase in domestic production comes from leases on government-owned lands. </p>
<p>The Obama Administration&#8217;s reaction to the Macondo/BP blowout shows its indifference to hostility towards domestic drilling. A panel of experts recommended that drilling in the Gulf continue after the blowout, with good reason. BP violated a slew of industry accepted practices in blowing out the Macondo well. [Truly a company that correctly billed itself as Beyond Petroleum, as in beyond accepted petroleum industry practices. Not just at Macondo. either. I heard some stories from somone who retired from BP.] Follow those accepted practices, and you shouldn&#8217;t have such a problem. Shut BP down- yes- but not the others. But Interior Secretary Salazar, undoubtedly with the approval of President Obama, shut down drilling in the Gulf, falsely claiming that the expert panel had recommended such a shutdown. </p>
<p>Summation: Obama&#8217;s 2004 statement about energy  was simply something for him to recite, not something that reflected his opinions on energy. Deceptive? Hell, yes.</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/04/why-the-tire-pressure-gauge-stings/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://hotair.com/archives/2008/08/04/why-the-tire-pressure-gauge-stings/</a></p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In President Obama’s latest move using executive authority to tackle climate change, administration officials will announce plans this week to impose new regulations on the oil and gas industry’s emissions of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, according to a person familiar with Mr. Obama’s plans. The administration’s goal is to cut methane emissions from oil and gas production by up to 45 percent by 2025 from the levels recorded in 2012

burn it... burn all of it

CH4 + 2(O2) --&#062; C02 + 2(H2O)

voila... instant solution... 

ultimately water is the reason why methane is bad as it will react with OH and make the same thing as burning. however, given the regulation, burning it at the source WILL be what they do

hows that for IRONY...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In President Obama’s latest move using executive authority to tackle climate change, administration officials will announce plans this week to impose new regulations on the oil and gas industry’s emissions of methane, a powerful greenhouse gas, according to a person familiar with Mr. Obama’s plans. The administration’s goal is to cut methane emissions from oil and gas production by up to 45 percent by 2025 from the levels recorded in 2012</p>
<p>burn it&#8230; burn all of it</p>
<p>CH4 + 2(O2) &#8211;&gt; C02 + 2(H2O)</p>
<p>voila&#8230; instant solution&#8230; </p>
<p>ultimately water is the reason why methane is bad as it will react with OH and make the same thing as burning. however, given the regulation, burning it at the source WILL be what they do</p>
<p>hows that for IRONY&#8230;</p>
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		By: MollyNH		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic &#038; on a charming &#038; hopeful note those of us with a religious persuasion might want to Google
 Religious icons on the space station
 Gotta love those Ruskies, I thought their Commie founding fathers bragged about engineering the first Atheist Nation on earth.
 Anyway there they are smiling unabashedly in front of their shrine, with Christ, &#038; the Madonna,  some catholic obviously donated a crucifix as well.
So if Russia survived all the abuse heaped on it
all those years we can too !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic &amp; on a charming &amp; hopeful note those of us with a religious persuasion might want to Google<br />
 Religious icons on the space station<br />
 Gotta love those Ruskies, I thought their Commie founding fathers bragged about engineering the first Atheist Nation on earth.<br />
 Anyway there they are smiling unabashedly in front of their shrine, with Christ, &amp; the Madonna,  some catholic obviously donated a crucifix as well.<br />
So if Russia survived all the abuse heaped on it<br />
all those years we can too !</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Terry:

So you&#039;re the guy who doesn&#039;t pay close attention to what people write.  

I started this blog in 2004, a couple of years after my political conversion (a process which had begun with 9/11 and taken about 2 years).  I never supported, liked, or trusted Obama, and I certainly didn&#039;t vote for him.  In this post, I wrote that I didn&#039;t hear his speech in 2004 and never heard of him till he declared his candidacy in 2008, and nothing I wrote here indicates a moment of support for him.

As I wrote in &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2015/01/13/irony-thy-name-is-obama/#comment-862345&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this comment&lt;/a&gt;, this post is the first time I actually looked at that speech, and I find what he said there ironic in light of everything that&#039;s happened in his presidency.  

If you&#039;re actually interested in the evolution of my opinions about Obama, read &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this 2-part series&lt;/a&gt; I wrote in July of 2009.  Quite a while before the 2008 election I distrusted Obama and considered him a leftist, a liar, and a narcissist.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry:</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re the guy who doesn&#8217;t pay close attention to what people write.  </p>
<p>I started this blog in 2004, a couple of years after my political conversion (a process which had begun with 9/11 and taken about 2 years).  I never supported, liked, or trusted Obama, and I certainly didn&#8217;t vote for him.  In this post, I wrote that I didn&#8217;t hear his speech in 2004 and never heard of him till he declared his candidacy in 2008, and nothing I wrote here indicates a moment of support for him.</p>
<p>As I wrote in <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2015/01/13/irony-thy-name-is-obama/#comment-862345" rel="nofollow">this comment</a>, this post is the first time I actually looked at that speech, and I find what he said there ironic in light of everything that&#8217;s happened in his presidency.  </p>
<p>If you&#8217;re actually interested in the evolution of my opinions about Obama, read <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/" rel="nofollow">this 2-part series</a> I wrote in July of 2009.  Quite a while before the 2008 election I distrusted Obama and considered him a leftist, a liar, and a narcissist.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2015 18:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Walla Dalbo &lt;blockquote&gt;
Can we right our “Ship of State” and turn it back on the right course and in the right direction?

Well, if enough of us even know and understand the concept of the “Ship of State,” if enough of us see that there has been a mutiny, that the ship is in bad repair, is listing perilously hard to port, and that we are headed in exactly the wrong direction.

If enough of us remember the correct direction to steer in, and also want to navigate back to our homeport.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ACA rationing care and speeding up end of life is to prevent that... which is why its so critical.... when the fit hits the shan, the people will naturally gravitate towards those who would know and act accordingly. but if they no longer exist... their memory gone... then what?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walla Dalbo </p>
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Can we right our “Ship of State” and turn it back on the right course and in the right direction?</p>
<p>Well, if enough of us even know and understand the concept of the “Ship of State,” if enough of us see that there has been a mutiny, that the ship is in bad repair, is listing perilously hard to port, and that we are headed in exactly the wrong direction.</p>
<p>If enough of us remember the correct direction to steer in, and also want to navigate back to our homeport.</p></blockquote>
<p>ACA rationing care and speeding up end of life is to prevent that&#8230; which is why its so critical&#8230;. when the fit hits the shan, the people will naturally gravitate towards those who would know and act accordingly. but if they no longer exist&#8230; their memory gone&#8230; then what?</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dark Helmet:

Good description.

As I said, I didn&#039;t see or hear the speech at the time, so I have no idea how I would have reacted to it in 2004.  I didn&#039;t hear of Obama until he was a candidate in 2008, but rather quickly I grew to distrust him.  

I wrote a two-part series about the process &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dark Helmet:</p>
<p>Good description.</p>
<p>As I said, I didn&#8217;t see or hear the speech at the time, so I have no idea how I would have reacted to it in 2004.  I didn&#8217;t hear of Obama until he was a candidate in 2008, but rather quickly I grew to distrust him.  </p>
<p>I wrote a two-part series about the process <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[I saw that speech, I recalled he looked cock sure and like he never worked a day in his life.
He was also introduced by the media announcer as born in Kenya but raised in the US but my memory sometimes misfires.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that speech, I recalled he looked cock sure and like he never worked a day in his life.<br />
He was also introduced by the media announcer as born in Kenya but raised in the US but my memory sometimes misfires.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just a couple of random comments. As I was not following politics closely back then I did not know of Obama before he seemingly popped up out of nowhere in time for the 2008 election. I wondered how anyone with so little actual accomplishment with a somewhat oddly shady past could even be put up as a presidential candidate. I know people who voted for him for the sole reason of wanting to be a part of history: electing a (half) black president. I thought, &quot;That&#039;s technically racist - you voted based on skin color alone. Given two candidates, you voted for the one with dark skin, because he has dark skin, vs the one who did not have dark skin.&quot; Of course they didn&#039;t see it that way. But it was another year or two when events started to make me suspect actual evil intent, vs random stupidity and inexperience.

We are surrounded by simpletons who actually believe in perceived intent instead of actual outcome. That&#039;s how Obama gets away with saying one thing while blatantly doing the opposite, or pursuing policy that is guaranteed to fail. Obama says it, they take away what they want to believe from it, and whatever ends up happening doesn&#039;t change what Obama said and what they believe. You end up with the ridiculous situation we have now where Obama and his administration breaks things left and right but those who choose to believe in him blame things breaking on the actions - or at this point, sometimes just the mere existence - of political enemies.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a couple of random comments. As I was not following politics closely back then I did not know of Obama before he seemingly popped up out of nowhere in time for the 2008 election. I wondered how anyone with so little actual accomplishment with a somewhat oddly shady past could even be put up as a presidential candidate. I know people who voted for him for the sole reason of wanting to be a part of history: electing a (half) black president. I thought, &#8220;That&#8217;s technically racist &#8211; you voted based on skin color alone. Given two candidates, you voted for the one with dark skin, because he has dark skin, vs the one who did not have dark skin.&#8221; Of course they didn&#8217;t see it that way. But it was another year or two when events started to make me suspect actual evil intent, vs random stupidity and inexperience.</p>
<p>We are surrounded by simpletons who actually believe in perceived intent instead of actual outcome. That&#8217;s how Obama gets away with saying one thing while blatantly doing the opposite, or pursuing policy that is guaranteed to fail. Obama says it, they take away what they want to believe from it, and whatever ends up happening doesn&#8217;t change what Obama said and what they believe. You end up with the ridiculous situation we have now where Obama and his administration breaks things left and right but those who choose to believe in him blame things breaking on the actions &#8211; or at this point, sometimes just the mere existence &#8211; of political enemies.</p>
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