All of these problems are blamed on civilians with guns, criminals with guns, and just about all the right wing militia aka Republicans and Tea Party and/or Iraq veterans too.

The police are taught in the tribal sense of the blacks, to blame all department corruption and excesses on Others, just like the blacks, Mexicans, and DC plutocrats do. Should see some of the police culture’s “shirts” they now wear talking about the rest of you here.

We meaning you, Holder, and Valerie, right.

Whose only concern is to make Obama and Holder look bad? Thanks for knocking down a strawman.

My concern, and that of most people here, is truth. I have been appalled at the press coverage of the Brown incident (less so of the Garner incident), the reaction to it, and the attitude of Obama about it. Long before Ramos and Liu were murdered I and others here were very concerned about where the irresponsible rhetoric would lead.

Some of this rhetoric was from Obama and Holder, and some was from their gestures (sending official representatives to Brown’s funeral, continuing to hold out the hope of a civil rights conviction when there is zero evidence for such a thing, etc.). Much of the more inflammatory rhetoric was from Sharpton and Farrakhan. Not only did Obama and Holder not denounce the racemongers, in the case of Sharpton they have allied with him and invited him quite a few times to the White House.

Another concern of mine, of course, is with the safety of police officers. There is no question that Obama, Holder, Sharpton, Farrakhan, and de Blasio have contributed to different degrees to the fact that officers’ safety has become more threatened.

Another concern is with the treatment of the public by police officers. If there are incidents of racism, of course they should be investigated and prosecuted. But the blowing up of incidents that have nothing to do with racism, and encouraging the idea that they do, is pernicious and dangerous.

Before Ramos and Liu were killed, it was easy to predict something like that would be happening.

There must be a true conversion of policy between police and citizens.. There will be no utopic solution; each time there is an incident never dealt before, we will have to make a solution. For example, because of the issues of race accusations on the police, there is a rise in purchasing body cams – it’s hard to claim “racism!!!” when you see Pete striking the first blow against Officer Smith.

If your only concern is how to use this tragedy in order to make Obama and Holder look bad then you are no different than any leftist. Besides, they already look bad :/

“I’ve done some thinking about that, but the answer is no. Everyone knows this is a house that does not respect women. They are part of the problem, and I do not feel bad. We have an objective set of laws that empowers the police to kill black men with impunity and protects white rapists at U.Va. from prosecution. The laws are only legitimate when they work. This is not a particularly radical campus, but we’re mad.

“As a college student, I know a lot of people who have been the result of direct oppression. We have tried peaceful political change, and I think a huge percentage of people in this country are fed up with that because we’re not getting anywhere.”

Those views, he said were supported by the textbooks issued at U.Va., which he described as “tools for understanding” oppression.

Rolling Stone declined repeated requests for comment.

The University of Virginia, which previously issued suspensions for findings of fault in school-sponsored tribunal rape cases, changed its penalty to expulsion shortly after the attackers’ threats were published Nov. 20. Some school faculty echoed similar concerns in a letter of their own.

Asked whether the school’s decision was based partially on the threat made by the students who attacked Phi Kappa Psi, U.Va. spokesman Anthony de Bruyn said he could not comment on anything related to that the incident because police were still investigating.

One of the student’s last statements during The Times’ interview was a commentary on law enforcement.

“The police force does nothing but harass the black community and protect white students from being uncomfortable,” he said.

Obama and Democrats – all Democrats by intention or by simply choosing (their personal choice) to be on the side of the guys in the black hats – are fully responsible for this. You could almost say they have planned it. They are “taking their shot” (no pun intended). They are rolling the dice that this is their moment for the overthrow of America. In this, ISIS is their ally, the enemy of their enemy (America). The Democrats Pols and Voters figure they can deal with ISIS et al later. Why?

Because they know that the biggest and most dangerous enemy they have are normal Americans. They know they face a greater threat from the Little Sisters of the Poor than from the entire Mideast, Russia and China combined.

Don’t think these people won’t fight their real enemy. They will. And as this event shows, they mean business.

http://commoncts.blogspot.com/2014/12/watch-dr-evil-mock-sony-pictures-and.html

Thanks, I fixed it.

Here is what they figured out, a crude but effective agenda.

Are you in favor of children or against them? Is tobacco a good thing? Are you indifferent to drunk drivers killing people, or to animal cruelty? Should men be allowed to beat and rape women? Do you want a dirty environment?

These issues were framed so cleverly that no one could assess them objectively.

They were framed to criminalize and destroy average Americans.

The Left realized that average law abiding Americans could be made to suffer law enforcement and to turn on each other in the process. The Left came to understand this when they saw the (deserved) effectiveness of the “law and order” pov from the 70’s.

The brilliance of this approach was the near total approval of average law abiding Americans only too willing to thrill to the act of proscription and condemnation.

Just as bad, the average police officer has come to see punishment and condemnation as a right, and forcible disdain as never having a downside.

Heads the Left wins, tails we lose, both police and citizens.

We have been transformed successfully into the Left’s false vision of the 70’s.