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		By: Richard Aubrey		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/16/another-day-another-msm-hoax/#comment-855128</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps lib journos are so used to lying because they&#039;ve had to do it for so long, in matters large and small, to support the narrative.  If you ignore, spike, or cover up something that contradicts the narrative, what&#039;s the problem with just making stuff up.
Erdely did this twice before, once with &quot;billy&quot; and some Catholic priests, and once wrt the Navy.  In both cases, as with this, the point was to make the powers that be seem callous and indifferent.  All were built on lies.  All got great reception among the usual suspects.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps lib journos are so used to lying because they&#8217;ve had to do it for so long, in matters large and small, to support the narrative.  If you ignore, spike, or cover up something that contradicts the narrative, what&#8217;s the problem with just making stuff up.<br />
Erdely did this twice before, once with &#8220;billy&#8221; and some Catholic priests, and once wrt the Navy.  In both cases, as with this, the point was to make the powers that be seem callous and indifferent.  All were built on lies.  All got great reception among the usual suspects.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 15:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[there is no pravda in itsvetsia, no itsvetsia in pravda

72 Million More Reasons To Doubt The Mainstream Press

New York magazine occupies one of the top rungs on the media elite ladder. Surely it would never publish a piece that hadn&#039;t been thoroughly fact-checked and edited.

Turns out the $72 million-kid story had gone through those steps. The magazine even sent a fact-checker to the 17-year-old&#039;s home to view a bank statement.

Plus, Pressler&#039;s tale fit comfortably with how liberals view Wall Street – as little more than a lottery where someone can &quot;score&quot; millions by &quot;playing&quot; the market. So why bother being skeptical of the kid&#039;s tale?

But the story was, in fact, a complete hoax. The teen in question, Mohammed Islam, apparently was a member of an investing club at his high school, but he had never put a dime of actual money into the market.

Not everyone was fooled by this easily debunkable story. Twitchy, a conservative site that tracks Twitter feeds, almost immediately cast doubt on it after noticing a stream of tweets saying it couldn&#039;t possibly be true.

And when the New York Observer did some actual reporting, it quickly uncovered the deception.

Meanwhile, the University of Virginia gang rape story continues to unravel, exposing new depths of laziness, recklessness and bias at Rolling Stone.

--Investor&#039;s Business Daily--]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is no pravda in itsvetsia, no itsvetsia in pravda</p>
<p>72 Million More Reasons To Doubt The Mainstream Press</p>
<p>New York magazine occupies one of the top rungs on the media elite ladder. Surely it would never publish a piece that hadn&#8217;t been thoroughly fact-checked and edited.</p>
<p>Turns out the $72 million-kid story had gone through those steps. The magazine even sent a fact-checker to the 17-year-old&#8217;s home to view a bank statement.</p>
<p>Plus, Pressler&#8217;s tale fit comfortably with how liberals view Wall Street – as little more than a lottery where someone can &#8220;score&#8221; millions by &#8220;playing&#8221; the market. So why bother being skeptical of the kid&#8217;s tale?</p>
<p>But the story was, in fact, a complete hoax. The teen in question, Mohammed Islam, apparently was a member of an investing club at his high school, but he had never put a dime of actual money into the market.</p>
<p>Not everyone was fooled by this easily debunkable story. Twitchy, a conservative site that tracks Twitter feeds, almost immediately cast doubt on it after noticing a stream of tweets saying it couldn&#8217;t possibly be true.</p>
<p>And when the New York Observer did some actual reporting, it quickly uncovered the deception.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the University of Virginia gang rape story continues to unravel, exposing new depths of laziness, recklessness and bias at Rolling Stone.</p>
<p>&#8211;Investor&#8217;s Business Daily&#8211;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/16/another-day-another-msm-hoax/#comment-855123</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2014 14:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[They are greedy, so it is easy to con them.]]></description>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Bernie Madoff school of investment.]]></description>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great comment George Pal. Anything that promotes the agenda is fit to print.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment George Pal. Anything that promotes the agenda is fit to print.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daniel in Brookline
&lt;i&gt; I would think, though, that the sort of palpable sneer you describe would be a giant red flag to ANY editor worthy of the name ...&lt;/i&gt;

Sneering is a default liberal mechanism. When in the &#039;80s my political stance changed from generic liberal to a  &quot;a plague on both your houses&quot; neutrality, I started to notice all the sneering. In media, I noticed the sneering underlying  NPR&#039;s reporting on a Reagan victory. In bumperstickers: &quot;Vote Republican. It&#039;s easier than thinking.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel in Brookline<br />
<i> I would think, though, that the sort of palpable sneer you describe would be a giant red flag to ANY editor worthy of the name &#8230;</i></p>
<p>Sneering is a default liberal mechanism. When in the &#8217;80s my political stance changed from generic liberal to a  &#8220;a plague on both your houses&#8221; neutrality, I started to notice all the sneering. In media, I noticed the sneering underlying  NPR&#8217;s reporting on a Reagan victory. In bumperstickers: &#8220;Vote Republican. It&#8217;s easier than thinking.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Daniel in Brookline		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nolanimrod:

I haven&#039;t read the Rolling Stone article (and would frankly rather not).  I would think, though, that the sort of palpable sneer you describe would be a giant red flag to ANY editor worthy of the name -- this writer is too heavily invested in the story for responsible journalism!

Then again, there were multiple giant red flags here, weren&#039;t there, starting with the sole witness who insisted that no other witnesses be contacted... and the &quot;journalist&quot; who went along with it!  Unbelievable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nolanimrod:</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the Rolling Stone article (and would frankly rather not).  I would think, though, that the sort of palpable sneer you describe would be a giant red flag to ANY editor worthy of the name &#8212; this writer is too heavily invested in the story for responsible journalism!</p>
<p>Then again, there were multiple giant red flags here, weren&#8217;t there, starting with the sole witness who insisted that no other witnesses be contacted&#8230; and the &#8220;journalist&#8221; who went along with it!  Unbelievable.</p>
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		By: Nolanimrod		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In the Rolling Stone piece we are treated to a phenomenon you see sometimes: a word or phrase written with such a sneer that you can feel the sneer while reading the text. In the case of the Rolling Stone article the word was &lt;em&gt;blonde&lt;/em&gt;.

The writer wanted these frat brats&#039; guts and she wanted their heads on her wall above the fireplace in the spot Sarah Palin saves for Bambi&#039;s mom. You could feel it.

A lot of vitriol contained in that one word.

Were I an editor I might get the same sort of nudgings from a story, any story, about a guy named &lt;em&gt;Mohammed Islam&lt;/em&gt;. Or if the 72 million dollar kid were named &lt;em&gt;Single Mother&lt;/em&gt;.

Or &lt;em&gt;Oliver Klosoff&lt;/em&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Rolling Stone piece we are treated to a phenomenon you see sometimes: a word or phrase written with such a sneer that you can feel the sneer while reading the text. In the case of the Rolling Stone article the word was <em>blonde</em>.</p>
<p>The writer wanted these frat brats&#8217; guts and she wanted their heads on her wall above the fireplace in the spot Sarah Palin saves for Bambi&#8217;s mom. You could feel it.</p>
<p>A lot of vitriol contained in that one word.</p>
<p>Were I an editor I might get the same sort of nudgings from a story, any story, about a guy named <em>Mohammed Islam</em>. Or if the 72 million dollar kid were named <em>Single Mother</em>.</p>
<p>Or <em>Oliver Klosoff</em>.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daniel in Brookline:

I&#039;d like to see more data, too, but when I look back on the last decade or two, all the major hoaxes I can think of were on the left.  Stephen Glass, Jason Blair, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/19/us/boston-columnist-is-ousted-for-fabricated-articles.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pat Smith&lt;/a&gt; (you may not remember her, but I do because she wrote for the &lt;i&gt;Globe&lt;/i&gt; and I had always liked her writing), and now these two.

I&#039;m not talking about a minor fact gotten wrong here and there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel in Brookline:</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see more data, too, but when I look back on the last decade or two, all the major hoaxes I can think of were on the left.  Stephen Glass, Jason Blair, <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/19/us/boston-columnist-is-ousted-for-fabricated-articles.html" rel="nofollow">Pat Smith</a> (you may not remember her, but I do because she wrote for the <i>Globe</i> and I had always liked her writing), and now these two.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about a minor fact gotten wrong here and there.</p>
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		By: George Pal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It’s not that the liberal media are easy and will bend over forward at the drop of a confederate dollar — they are not stupid. What they are is desperate to substantiate the narrative. Any story to the tune of racist, sexist, (pick-a)phobic gets air time. Any ditty, no matter how outlandish, that beats the drum of multi-culty diversity, vibrancy, and that shines, sparkles, will get type space. They would buy the Brooklyn bridge if it were put to them that it was built by undocumented 3rd world PoCs and condemn it to scrap iron if it were put to them Roebling was a slave holder. How the hell they (liberal media) continue to exist is beyond me. George Soros must have really deep pockets.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s not that the liberal media are easy and will bend over forward at the drop of a confederate dollar — they are not stupid. What they are is desperate to substantiate the narrative. Any story to the tune of racist, sexist, (pick-a)phobic gets air time. Any ditty, no matter how outlandish, that beats the drum of multi-culty diversity, vibrancy, and that shines, sparkles, will get type space. They would buy the Brooklyn bridge if it were put to them that it was built by undocumented 3rd world PoCs and condemn it to scrap iron if it were put to them Roebling was a slave holder. How the hell they (liberal media) continue to exist is beyond me. George Soros must have really deep pockets.</p>
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