Comments on: Truth in liberal journalism…

By: NeoConScum

NeoConScum — Sat, 13 Dec 2014 22:40:00 +0000

I’m constantly tickled by the preferred term of Liberals these days: PROGRESSIVE. The Communists in the CPUSA and fellow travelers called themselves exactly that.

By: Clarityseeker

Clarityseeker — Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:52:47 +0000

Molly, No worries. Have a great day.

Gail Finke, neo-neocon write:
“That wing of the party is gone, but it was quite active at one time, and the time was not all that long ago.”
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Indeed, “gone”. I watched it go through significant changes in the 1980’s.
Funny thing, the Communist Party, here in the United States, disbanded in the early 1980’s. FACT.
I’ll give you 3 guesses where their party members (and energies) gravitated to?
A thought to consider; they were not a quiet bunch. Nor were they willing to simply fade away into the sunset.
One is hard pressed to find mainstream media coverage on this—-not there. It is very accessible.

By: Gail Finke

Gail Finke — Sat, 13 Dec 2014 03:57:13 +0000

” That wing of the party is gone, but it was quite active at one time, and the time was not all that long ago.”

That was me at one time too. But like you I noticed that a lot of things liberals said were simply not true, and the part of the party I agreed with vanished. So….

By: MollyNH

MollyNH — Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:46:09 +0000

@CS somebody has pointed out that Conservatives today are more for individual liberty then the current
Democrats, the only *choices* they want you to have
are BC options, abortions, & any number of hook ups that you may desire ! But of course, they ll control
what you eat, drink, what school your kids should go to,
what medical procedures you are permitted etc. etc

By: Molly NH

Molly NH — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 21:12:21 +0000

I apologize, if you, CS were joking too !

By: Clarityseeker

Clarityseeker — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:58:33 +0000

There is also a GROSS misinterpretation of Liberal.
Liberal, large ‘L’, is by no means one in the same with liberal, small ‘l’.
That liberalism existing in the 19th century is not embraced by the Liberal today.

By: Clarityseeker

Clarityseeker — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:52:14 +0000

Please. I said it tongue-in-cheek.
What is more important is my conviction about Progressives, Leftists, MOST Liberals.
They are NOT adherents to Truth.
If it fits their narrative, they’ll use it as such.
Truth is malleable for them.
And you can take this one to the bank.
Truth, if even a consideration to a Liberal, is well below any other value.

Years ago Dennis Prager spoke regularly on a test he would give to Liberals to determine their core values. His point was that most people who THINK their Liberal actually hold to positions that are more conservative.
I just looked on his site. I do not see it prominently displayed as it once was. He is as steadfast in this argument as he was when I first heard it over 20 years ago.
I happen to agree with him on this. In most cases. Which means either that Liberals are lying to themselves or have a pretty feckless ability to self reflect.

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:32:19 +0000

MollyNH:

Oh, I understand now. Thanks.

But Clarityseeker was making one important point (one I’ve made before, too, although it bears repeating): some liberals just vote liberal and don’t realize that their principles are more in line with the conservative party.

By: MollyNH

MollyNH — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:13:01 +0000

NEO, I was defending you, guess i should have added (snark) I thought calling on God would do the trick.
Of course you WERE a liberal, so was I before I grew up & learned somethings in life.
I guess I find it amazing that Clarityseeker would impugn your definition of *yourself*!

By: neo-neocon

neo-neocon — Fri, 12 Dec 2014 20:02:15 +0000

Clarityseeker, MollyNH: I didn't just think I was a liberal, I was a liberal in every sense that mattered. Of course I'm well aware that I had many conservative principles. But back when I was coming up in the world, liberals and the Democratic Party appealed to a lot of people with some conservative principles. That wing of the party is gone, but it was quite active at one time, and the time was not all that long ago. I say I was a liberal in every sense that matters. That means I considered myself one and voted for the Democrat every single time, and could not even imagine voting for a Republican. Probably 90% of the people I was friendly with were liberals, maybe even more, and I fit right in quite nicely although I sometimes disagreed with them on certain points. I was a liberal by any practical definition of the word. Of course, I was never a liberal in the sense of doctrinaire or leftist, and I always knew that, as well. But I make a distinction between liberal and leftist. The first is the useful idiot of the second, but they are not the same.