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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/05/another-controversial-shooting-by-police/#comment-852892</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 17:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For those who are interested, here&#039;s a story that  happened in May and didn&#039;t receive even a  smidgen of national media attention. We all know why.

 	&quot;White cop Kidnapped and Murdered by Black Men… Where’s the Media?&quot;

http://wtvr.com/2014/05/16/kevin-quick-murder-charges/

The latest development in this story is that the death penalty will not be sought. WTF! If there is any crime that should be an automatic death penalty, it is for murdering a policeman. But our PC society cannot call a spade a spade anymore because........it might upset the black community. 

Which is well explained by Fred Reed:
http://www.fredoneverything.net/BlackPower.shtml]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who are interested, here&#8217;s a story that  happened in May and didn&#8217;t receive even a  smidgen of national media attention. We all know why.</p>
<p> 	&#8220;White cop Kidnapped and Murdered by Black Men… Where’s the Media?&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://wtvr.com/2014/05/16/kevin-quick-murder-charges/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://wtvr.com/2014/05/16/kevin-quick-murder-charges/</a></p>
<p>The latest development in this story is that the death penalty will not be sought. WTF! If there is any crime that should be an automatic death penalty, it is for murdering a policeman. But our PC society cannot call a spade a spade anymore because&#8230;&#8230;..it might upset the black community. </p>
<p>Which is well explained by Fred Reed:<br />
<a href="http://www.fredoneverything.net/BlackPower.shtml" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.fredoneverything.net/BlackPower.shtml</a></p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/05/another-controversial-shooting-by-police/#comment-852889</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 17:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gringo: &quot;The turnaround in NYC crime began with application of the Broken Windows theory- go after the small stuff. For example, jumping a subway turnstile may be small stuff, but when cops went after turnstile jumpers, they found out that many of those arrested for turnstile jumping had a lot of arrest warrants out on them.&quot;

Tanks for the link. In reading it I see that Kelly was commissioner under Dinkuns and Bratton was commissioner under Giuliani when they cleaned things up by enforcing even the small stuff. So, don&#039;t know why the NY cop hates Kelly  so much. It would seem that Bratton was the man who changed things. Oh well, to each his own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gringo: &#8220;The turnaround in NYC crime began with application of the Broken Windows theory- go after the small stuff. For example, jumping a subway turnstile may be small stuff, but when cops went after turnstile jumpers, they found out that many of those arrested for turnstile jumping had a lot of arrest warrants out on them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tanks for the link. In reading it I see that Kelly was commissioner under Dinkuns and Bratton was commissioner under Giuliani when they cleaned things up by enforcing even the small stuff. So, don&#8217;t know why the NY cop hates Kelly  so much. It would seem that Bratton was the man who changed things. Oh well, to each his own.</p>
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		By: Gringo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/05/another-controversial-shooting-by-police/#comment-852776</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2014 04:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[J.J.
&lt;i&gt;One of the highlights for me is that this policeman is claiming that in the past (under Mayor Dinkuns when crime was rampant?) they ignored the small stuff like Eric Garner and only went after the “big stuff.” &lt;/i&gt;

The turnaround in NYC crime began with application of the Broken Windows theory- go after the small stuff. For example, jumping a subway turnstile may be small stuff, but when cops went after turnstile jumpers, they found out that many of those arrested for turnstile jumping had a lot of arrest warrants out on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kelly]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J.J.<br />
<i>One of the highlights for me is that this policeman is claiming that in the past (under Mayor Dinkuns when crime was rampant?) they ignored the small stuff like Eric Garner and only went after the “big stuff.” </i></p>
<p>The turnaround in NYC crime began with application of the Broken Windows theory- go after the small stuff. For example, jumping a subway turnstile may be small stuff, but when cops went after turnstile jumpers, they found out that many of those arrested for turnstile jumping had a lot of arrest warrants out on them.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kelly" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Kelly</a></p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/05/another-controversial-shooting-by-police/#comment-852707</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 21:18:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar: &quot;People go with the excuse that the politicians have the power and the police departments are there to protect people, that criminals need to be dealt with, then they hit that wall above and they got nothing to say. That’s because a serf has nothing to say and no power to do anything about the above. They are not citizens, the police are not their equals nor  their employees.&quot;

I get that you believe our system of government has failed. The words I hear from you are similar to what I hear from the Gramscians - &quot;Revolt against the system!&quot; 
&quot;Tear it down!&quot; 
&quot;Don&#039;t obey the laws you disagree with that have been made by these representatives.&quot;  
&quot;Revolt, stand up for yourselves and tear the system down!&quot; 
&quot;We disagree with the elected representatives  because we didn&#039;t vote for them - to the barricades!&quot;

And replace it with what?    

We may yet have a shooting civil war.  I&#039;m doing my best to change the system peacefully. Rejoice that you can still convey your displeasure about government to those who have been elected. Even when you didn&#039;t vote for them and they don&#039;t agree with  you. You can&#039;t do that in most places today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar: &#8220;People go with the excuse that the politicians have the power and the police departments are there to protect people, that criminals need to be dealt with, then they hit that wall above and they got nothing to say. That’s because a serf has nothing to say and no power to do anything about the above. They are not citizens, the police are not their equals nor  their employees.&#8221;</p>
<p>I get that you believe our system of government has failed. The words I hear from you are similar to what I hear from the Gramscians &#8211; &#8220;Revolt against the system!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Tear it down!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Don&#8217;t obey the laws you disagree with that have been made by these representatives.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Revolt, stand up for yourselves and tear the system down!&#8221;<br />
&#8220;We disagree with the elected representatives  because we didn&#8217;t vote for them &#8211; to the barricades!&#8221;</p>
<p>And replace it with what?    </p>
<p>We may yet have a shooting civil war.  I&#8217;m doing my best to change the system peacefully. Rejoice that you can still convey your displeasure about government to those who have been elected. Even when you didn&#8217;t vote for them and they don&#8217;t agree with  you. You can&#8217;t do that in most places today.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/05/another-controversial-shooting-by-police/#comment-852663</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 18:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;We have elected people to make laws and then hired people to enforce them.&lt;/b&gt;

You didn&#039;t hire anyone, proved by the fact that you lack the power to fire any of them, including America&#039;s Emperor, Obola Hussein. This was repeated in the previous thread too.

When people hear &quot;citizens&quot;, they usually exclude the police, which shows what status they have.

The Leftist alliance has been training the police unions and then the police departments, to execute execution orders on targets. This has been the case for years.

http://www.bing.com/search?q=SWAT+wrong+house+kill&#038;go=&#038;qs=n&#038;form=QBLH&#038;pq=target+focus+training&#038;sc=8-18&#038;sp=-1&#038;sk=

People go with the excuse that the politicians have the power and the police departments are there to protect people, that criminals need to be dealt with, then they hit that wall above and they got nothing to say. That&#039;s because a serf has nothing to say and no power to do anything about the above. They are not citizens, the police are not their equals nor their employees. People obey the police because they are afraid of them. Same thing usually under a police state, a slave plantation for Democrats, and an aristocracy. The serfs obey because the lords will kick them off the land, otherwise.

Yet this state of affairs is labeled a righteous &quot;democracy&quot;, as if that means anything.

By promoting any group, like the police or Leftist politicians, to a higher status like an aristocrat, you are already setting up the System to fall on top of you. These humans, most of them, cannot stay on that pedestal you put them on. They&#039;re not going to protect the System, they&#039;re not going to protect the people, and they&#039;re not going to enforce the Laws, period.

http://www.copblock.org/27565/the-cop-block-tour-visits-detroit/

The system is already dead in places, except it&#039;s still adhering to the aristocratic privilege of government monopoly and taxation.

Continue underestimating the Left and they&#039;ll be showing you something more interesting than you&#039;ve ever seen before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>We have elected people to make laws and then hired people to enforce them.</b></p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t hire anyone, proved by the fact that you lack the power to fire any of them, including America&#8217;s Emperor, Obola Hussein. This was repeated in the previous thread too.</p>
<p>When people hear &#8220;citizens&#8221;, they usually exclude the police, which shows what status they have.</p>
<p>The Leftist alliance has been training the police unions and then the police departments, to execute execution orders on targets. This has been the case for years.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bing.com/search?q=SWAT+wrong+house+kill&#038;go=&#038;qs=n&#038;form=QBLH&#038;pq=target+focus+training&#038;sc=8-18&#038;sp=-1&#038;sk=" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.bing.com/search?q=SWAT+wrong+house+kill&#038;go=&#038;qs=n&#038;form=QBLH&#038;pq=target+focus+training&#038;sc=8-18&#038;sp=-1&#038;sk=</a></p>
<p>People go with the excuse that the politicians have the power and the police departments are there to protect people, that criminals need to be dealt with, then they hit that wall above and they got nothing to say. That&#8217;s because a serf has nothing to say and no power to do anything about the above. They are not citizens, the police are not their equals nor their employees. People obey the police because they are afraid of them. Same thing usually under a police state, a slave plantation for Democrats, and an aristocracy. The serfs obey because the lords will kick them off the land, otherwise.</p>
<p>Yet this state of affairs is labeled a righteous &#8220;democracy&#8221;, as if that means anything.</p>
<p>By promoting any group, like the police or Leftist politicians, to a higher status like an aristocrat, you are already setting up the System to fall on top of you. These humans, most of them, cannot stay on that pedestal you put them on. They&#8217;re not going to protect the System, they&#8217;re not going to protect the people, and they&#8217;re not going to enforce the Laws, period.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.copblock.org/27565/the-cop-block-tour-visits-detroit/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.copblock.org/27565/the-cop-block-tour-visits-detroit/</a></p>
<p>The system is already dead in places, except it&#8217;s still adhering to the aristocratic privilege of government monopoly and taxation.</p>
<p>Continue underestimating the Left and they&#8217;ll be showing you something more interesting than you&#8217;ve ever seen before.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/05/another-controversial-shooting-by-police/#comment-852657</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:34:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[By the way, here&#039;s an interesting interview with a New York cop.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/qa-an-nypd-officers-real-talk-on-garner-case.html

One of the highlights for me is that this policeman is claiming that in the past (under Mayor Dinkuns when crime was rampant?) they ignored the small stuff like Eric Garner and only went after  the &quot;big stuff.&quot; That&#039;s interesting. He seems to hate Ray Kelly because  Kelly wants all laws enforced. (I think that began when Giuliani began going after the small stuff.) He talks about quotas, which is interesting, if true. 

A lot of what he says  about police work rings very true, as my retired cop neighbor  has told me the same things. Especially about dealing with the under belly of humanity. They become kind of cynical in their view of all humans because of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, here&#8217;s an interesting interview with a New York cop.<br />
<a href="http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/qa-an-nypd-officers-real-talk-on-garner-case.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/12/qa-an-nypd-officers-real-talk-on-garner-case.html</a></p>
<p>One of the highlights for me is that this policeman is claiming that in the past (under Mayor Dinkuns when crime was rampant?) they ignored the small stuff like Eric Garner and only went after  the &#8220;big stuff.&#8221; That&#8217;s interesting. He seems to hate Ray Kelly because  Kelly wants all laws enforced. (I think that began when Giuliani began going after the small stuff.) He talks about quotas, which is interesting, if true. </p>
<p>A lot of what he says  about police work rings very true, as my retired cop neighbor  has told me the same things. Especially about dealing with the under belly of humanity. They become kind of cynical in their view of all humans because of it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo: &quot;Is this to set the stage for the Left’s campaign themes for the 2016 Presidential election?

Or do they have something more harmful and of more lasting consequence in mind?&quot;

This is a continuation of the  Gramscian play book of pitting various parts of the polity against one another. Divide and conquer. The Acorn, Occupy, Revcom, OFA, Move On, etc. are always ready to do their  bidding. 

They  haven&#039;t mentioned the &quot;R&quot; word openly  yet, but methinks they are soon going to broach the subject of REPARATIONS. If they can convince enough LIVs that blacks are being hunted down and deprived of their civil rights, it would make a nice campaign issue for them.  Maybe I&#039;m wrong. We&#039;ll see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolla Dalbo: &#8220;Is this to set the stage for the Left’s campaign themes for the 2016 Presidential election?</p>
<p>Or do they have something more harmful and of more lasting consequence in mind?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a continuation of the  Gramscian play book of pitting various parts of the polity against one another. Divide and conquer. The Acorn, Occupy, Revcom, OFA, Move On, etc. are always ready to do their  bidding. </p>
<p>They  haven&#8217;t mentioned the &#8220;R&#8221; word openly  yet, but methinks they are soon going to broach the subject of REPARATIONS. If they can convince enough LIVs that blacks are being hunted down and deprived of their civil rights, it would make a nice campaign issue for them.  Maybe I&#8217;m wrong. We&#8217;ll see.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 17:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarasakar: &quot;Your behavior is very proper, JJ, for a serf. That’s sort of the point.&quot;

Which brings us around to what our government is supposed to be. In representative democracy the government derives it&#039;s just powers from the people. We have elected people to make laws and then hired people to enforce them.  Some of the laws are inevitably stupid - because we humans are deeply flawed. The police don&#039;t get to decide which laws are stupid or shouldn&#039;t be enforced.  We are asking them to do a dirty, thankless job - that often doesn&#039;t pay that well. We give them the power of life or death because that is often required to deal with the worst of the worst. Mistakes are made and human nature being what it is, defying their authority can lead to all kinds of tragedy - as we have seen only too well in the last months.  If laws are stupid, we have to work to get them changed or repealed. That&#039;s what responsible citizens do. They don&#039;t ignore the laws or the LEOs we have hired to enforce said laws. It&#039;s not a perfect system, but it&#039;s better than any other I have seen. Our job is to work to try to keep the system (laws and enforcement of them) in some kind of bounds. You may think it&#039;s not working, but would you prefer the system they have in  North Korea, Cuba, or  even Mexico?

You may have the way of the Samurai, I have my way. Good luck to you.

Jim Sullivan: No problem. I think we had a good debate. Good points were made on both sides. Debate allows us to organize our thoughts, deal with our feelings, and learn a bit more. Sometimes we even change our minds. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarasakar: &#8220;Your behavior is very proper, JJ, for a serf. That’s sort of the point.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which brings us around to what our government is supposed to be. In representative democracy the government derives it&#8217;s just powers from the people. We have elected people to make laws and then hired people to enforce them.  Some of the laws are inevitably stupid &#8211; because we humans are deeply flawed. The police don&#8217;t get to decide which laws are stupid or shouldn&#8217;t be enforced.  We are asking them to do a dirty, thankless job &#8211; that often doesn&#8217;t pay that well. We give them the power of life or death because that is often required to deal with the worst of the worst. Mistakes are made and human nature being what it is, defying their authority can lead to all kinds of tragedy &#8211; as we have seen only too well in the last months.  If laws are stupid, we have to work to get them changed or repealed. That&#8217;s what responsible citizens do. They don&#8217;t ignore the laws or the LEOs we have hired to enforce said laws. It&#8217;s not a perfect system, but it&#8217;s better than any other I have seen. Our job is to work to try to keep the system (laws and enforcement of them) in some kind of bounds. You may think it&#8217;s not working, but would you prefer the system they have in  North Korea, Cuba, or  even Mexico?</p>
<p>You may have the way of the Samurai, I have my way. Good luck to you.</p>
<p>Jim Sullivan: No problem. I think we had a good debate. Good points were made on both sides. Debate allows us to organize our thoughts, deal with our feelings, and learn a bit more. Sometimes we even change our minds. 🙂</p>
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		By: Starlord		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 16:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Apparently, police are expected to allow themselves to be shot to prove what good guys they are. &quot;
 Incorrect. Getting shot is required to prove the suspect&#039;s civil rights were being respected.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apparently, police are expected to allow themselves to be shot to prove what good guys they are. &#8221;<br />
 Incorrect. Getting shot is required to prove the suspect&#8217;s civil rights were being respected.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 15:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obviously Obama, Holder, Sharpton, and the whole race hustling industry have been inflating and inflaming racial tensions, with a cadre of professional Leftist agitators and troublemakers as their shock troops, with now a compliant Gov. Nixon and Mayor deBlasio added to that unsavory crew.

However, now that the election in which they used race to rev up the Black base is over, they are still going at it. 

Turmoil, chaos, and violence are always the revolutionary’s friend.

So, what is Obama et al’s new objective?  

Is this ginned up turmoil and street violence a way to eventually neuter state and local police forces, pull back some of the lethal surplus military equipment they have been given, and give more interventionist power to the Feds?

Is this to set the stage for the Left’s campaign themes for the 2016 Presidential election?

Or do they have something more harmful and of more lasting consequence in mind?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously Obama, Holder, Sharpton, and the whole race hustling industry have been inflating and inflaming racial tensions, with a cadre of professional Leftist agitators and troublemakers as their shock troops, with now a compliant Gov. Nixon and Mayor deBlasio added to that unsavory crew.</p>
<p>However, now that the election in which they used race to rev up the Black base is over, they are still going at it. </p>
<p>Turmoil, chaos, and violence are always the revolutionary’s friend.</p>
<p>So, what is Obama et al’s new objective?  </p>
<p>Is this ginned up turmoil and street violence a way to eventually neuter state and local police forces, pull back some of the lethal surplus military equipment they have been given, and give more interventionist power to the Feds?</p>
<p>Is this to set the stage for the Left’s campaign themes for the 2016 Presidential election?</p>
<p>Or do they have something more harmful and of more lasting consequence in mind?</p>
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