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		By: RickZ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/03/to-impeach-or-not-to-impeach-that-is-the-question/#comment-852563</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2014 10:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Impeachment is a way of telling the president &#039;NO!&#039;  Congress needs to tell this president not only &#039;NO!&#039; but &#039;HELL NO!&#039;

Impeach the bastard and let the chips fall where they may, even if it means &#039;ruining&#039; Barky&#039;s glorious &#039;legacy&#039;.  If the Senate fails to convict, oh well.  But with impeachment, at least Barky will have his third place in presidential history.

But Congress must fight this cockholster president.  Or else we are doomed to become a country where &#039;strong men&#039; rule by fiat from the Oval Office.  I&#039;m sick of RINOs failing this Republic by not even trying.

We currently have an Attorney General in contempt of Congress.  Doing nothing gets us more Holders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impeachment is a way of telling the president &#8216;NO!&#8217;  Congress needs to tell this president not only &#8216;NO!&#8217; but &#8216;HELL NO!&#8217;</p>
<p>Impeach the bastard and let the chips fall where they may, even if it means &#8216;ruining&#8217; Barky&#8217;s glorious &#8216;legacy&#8217;.  If the Senate fails to convict, oh well.  But with impeachment, at least Barky will have his third place in presidential history.</p>
<p>But Congress must fight this cockholster president.  Or else we are doomed to become a country where &#8216;strong men&#8217; rule by fiat from the Oval Office.  I&#8217;m sick of RINOs failing this Republic by not even trying.</p>
<p>We currently have an Attorney General in contempt of Congress.  Doing nothing gets us more Holders.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 22:03:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does Senator Sessions not understand mathematics?  I like him and I like the idea of defunding the amnesty plan, but on Dec 11, 2014 is not the time to do it.  The numbers are  against the GOP. March of 2015 (when the funding for DHS runs out, if the CR is passed as written) is the time to go to the mat. The funding of DHS with specifics as to what money can be spent where can  then pass both the House and Senate.  The President will then veto it. That will shut down all but the most essential parts (Coast Guard, Border Patrol, etc.) of the DHS. The administrative costs of amnesty will not be funded and most  citizens will not be inconvenienced as they were in the total shut down in 2013.   That is a fight that can be won without alienating the mass of LIVs necessary to win in 2016.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Senator Sessions not understand mathematics?  I like him and I like the idea of defunding the amnesty plan, but on Dec 11, 2014 is not the time to do it.  The numbers are  against the GOP. March of 2015 (when the funding for DHS runs out, if the CR is passed as written) is the time to go to the mat. The funding of DHS with specifics as to what money can be spent where can  then pass both the House and Senate.  The President will then veto it. That will shut down all but the most essential parts (Coast Guard, Border Patrol, etc.) of the DHS. The administrative costs of amnesty will not be funded and most  citizens will not be inconvenienced as they were in the total shut down in 2013.   That is a fight that can be won without alienating the mass of LIVs necessary to win in 2016.</p>
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		By: Truth Unites... and Divides		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 23:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;And I do believe I’ve exhausted my knowledge of Giants.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

George Pal,

I have identified another Giant!  Let&#039;s see if you agree.  The Giant&#039;s name is Moral Cowardice!

To get a coward to fight, you first have to get him to slay his internal Giant, his or her own moral Cowardice!  They don&#039;t want to face it, and that&#039;s why they always point to the external, outside Giant as being too big, too unbeatable.  It masks and excuses their own moral cowardice.  The Outside Giant provides self-serving rationalization for not stepping up.  

I missed that initially.   Moreover, a coward is loathe to admit their moral cowardice.  They will provide all kinds of sophistry, explanations, excuses, rationalizations on why something can&#039;t be done, and why it&#039;s folly to even attempt it.  Much like the biblical fact-narratives of David, Joshua, and Caleb.

Tsk, tsk.  Moreover, for those who claim that impeachment is futile while following Boehner and Obama&#039;s Mitch won&#039;t be futile, please see the following:

&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/393815/sessions-house-gop-verge-breaking-2014-campaign-promises-joel-gehrke&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sessions: House GOP Is On the Verge Of Breaking 2014 Campaign Promises&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) suggested that House Republicans are on the verge of breaking their campaign promise to fight President Obama’s administrative amnesty, judging by the legislative text currently being circulated.

Sessions said that the proposed language “fails to meet [the] test” established by Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus, who promised earlier this year that the GOP would do everything possible to thwart Obama’s executive orders.

“The executive amnesty language is substantially weaker than the language the House adopted this summer, and does not reject the central tenets of the President’s plan: work permits, Social Security and Medicare to 5 million illegal immigrants – reducing wages, jobs and benefits for Americans,” Sessions said in the statement expressing his dissatisfaction with the results of a House Republican conference meeting today.

In the meeting, “the lawmakers began coalescing around a two-part plan that would allow a &lt;b&gt;symbolic vote&lt;/b&gt; to show their frustration with President Obama’s executive action on immigration, before funding the government ahead of a Dec. 11 deadline,” according to the New York Times.

Sessions wants Congress to attach a rider to the government-funding bill that prohibits Obama from implementing the orders; his office released a list yesterday, compiled with the assistance the Congressional Research Service, of instances in which Congress did just that on a variety of issues last year.

“Congress must respond to the president’s unlawful action by funding the government but not funding illegal amnesty,” Sessions said. “This is a perfectly sound and routine application of Congressional authority. In fact, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service reports that last year’s omnibus spending bill included 16 such funding restrictions on fee-based programs.”

&lt;i&gt;To those inclined to worry that using the spending power would backfire on Republicans&lt;/i&gt; [Cowards always afraid of something], Sessions suggested that economic populism would lead to a GOP victory.

“Polling shows voters believe that Americans should get preference for available jobs by almost a 10—1 margin,” Sessions said.  “&lt;i&gt;Republicans should not be timid or apologetic&lt;/i&gt; [i.e., not cowardly], but mount a bold defense of struggling Americans.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;And I do believe I’ve exhausted my knowledge of Giants.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>George Pal,</p>
<p>I have identified another Giant!  Let&#8217;s see if you agree.  The Giant&#8217;s name is Moral Cowardice!</p>
<p>To get a coward to fight, you first have to get him to slay his internal Giant, his or her own moral Cowardice!  They don&#8217;t want to face it, and that&#8217;s why they always point to the external, outside Giant as being too big, too unbeatable.  It masks and excuses their own moral cowardice.  The Outside Giant provides self-serving rationalization for not stepping up.  </p>
<p>I missed that initially.   Moreover, a coward is loathe to admit their moral cowardice.  They will provide all kinds of sophistry, explanations, excuses, rationalizations on why something can&#8217;t be done, and why it&#8217;s folly to even attempt it.  Much like the biblical fact-narratives of David, Joshua, and Caleb.</p>
<p>Tsk, tsk.  Moreover, for those who claim that impeachment is futile while following Boehner and Obama&#8217;s Mitch won&#8217;t be futile, please see the following:</p>
<p><b><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/393815/sessions-house-gop-verge-breaking-2014-campaign-promises-joel-gehrke" rel="nofollow">Sessions: House GOP Is On the Verge Of Breaking 2014 Campaign Promises</a></b></p>
<p>Senator Jeff Sessions (R., Ala.) suggested that House Republicans are on the verge of breaking their campaign promise to fight President Obama’s administrative amnesty, judging by the legislative text currently being circulated.</p>
<p>Sessions said that the proposed language “fails to meet [the] test” established by Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus, who promised earlier this year that the GOP would do everything possible to thwart Obama’s executive orders.</p>
<p>“The executive amnesty language is substantially weaker than the language the House adopted this summer, and does not reject the central tenets of the President’s plan: work permits, Social Security and Medicare to 5 million illegal immigrants – reducing wages, jobs and benefits for Americans,” Sessions said in the statement expressing his dissatisfaction with the results of a House Republican conference meeting today.</p>
<p>In the meeting, “the lawmakers began coalescing around a two-part plan that would allow a <b>symbolic vote</b> to show their frustration with President Obama’s executive action on immigration, before funding the government ahead of a Dec. 11 deadline,” according to the New York Times.</p>
<p>Sessions wants Congress to attach a rider to the government-funding bill that prohibits Obama from implementing the orders; his office released a list yesterday, compiled with the assistance the Congressional Research Service, of instances in which Congress did just that on a variety of issues last year.</p>
<p>“Congress must respond to the president’s unlawful action by funding the government but not funding illegal amnesty,” Sessions said. “This is a perfectly sound and routine application of Congressional authority. In fact, the nonpartisan Congressional Research Service reports that last year’s omnibus spending bill included 16 such funding restrictions on fee-based programs.”</p>
<p><i>To those inclined to worry that using the spending power would backfire on Republicans</i> [Cowards always afraid of something], Sessions suggested that economic populism would lead to a GOP victory.</p>
<p>“Polling shows voters believe that Americans should get preference for available jobs by almost a 10—1 margin,” Sessions said.  “<i>Republicans should not be timid or apologetic</i> [i.e., not cowardly], but mount a bold defense of struggling Americans.”</p>
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		By: George Pal		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/12/03/to-impeach-or-not-to-impeach-that-is-the-question/#comment-852110</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 22:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truth U,

It’s good you have provided a synopsis — my memory and my reading of the bible are both ancient. 

As to Giants, I have never been disposed to fear them and would take them for an enemy gladly. I had come to this disposition in the reading Cyrano de Bergerac — also long ago, and recall to this day:

&lt;i&gt;“I-I am going to be a storm-a flame-
I need to fight whole armies alone;
I have ten hearts; I have a hundred arms;
I feel too strong to war with mortals-
BRING ME GIANTS!”&lt;/i&gt;
â€• Cyrano de Bergerac, Edmond Rostand

I would also note that Giants are something of a feature in Jewish Rabbinic literature. They are the offspring of fallen angels and the daughters of Adam. Their names are:

“Emim,” because whoever saw one of them was seized with terror. 
“Rephaim,” because their sight made people “soft” (fearful) like wax. 
“Gibborim,” because their brains alone measured 18 ells, (a hefty size it is reported) 
“Zamzummim,” because they inspired fear and were fierce warriors. 
“Anakim,” because they wore huge necklaces in great numbers. 
“Avim,” because they destroyed the world and were themselves destroyed. 
“Nefilim,” because they caused the world to fall and fell themselves.

And I do believe I’ve exhausted my knowledge of Giants. Oh Wait. There was that Fee-fi-fo-fum giant. As I recall, Jack slew him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth U,</p>
<p>It’s good you have provided a synopsis — my memory and my reading of the bible are both ancient. </p>
<p>As to Giants, I have never been disposed to fear them and would take them for an enemy gladly. I had come to this disposition in the reading Cyrano de Bergerac — also long ago, and recall to this day:</p>
<p><i>“I-I am going to be a storm-a flame-<br />
I need to fight whole armies alone;<br />
I have ten hearts; I have a hundred arms;<br />
I feel too strong to war with mortals-<br />
BRING ME GIANTS!”</i><br />
â€• Cyrano de Bergerac, Edmond Rostand</p>
<p>I would also note that Giants are something of a feature in Jewish Rabbinic literature. They are the offspring of fallen angels and the daughters of Adam. Their names are:</p>
<p>“Emim,” because whoever saw one of them was seized with terror.<br />
“Rephaim,” because their sight made people “soft” (fearful) like wax.<br />
“Gibborim,” because their brains alone measured 18 ells, (a hefty size it is reported)<br />
“Zamzummim,” because they inspired fear and were fierce warriors.<br />
“Anakim,” because they wore huge necklaces in great numbers.<br />
“Avim,” because they destroyed the world and were themselves destroyed.<br />
“Nefilim,” because they caused the world to fall and fell themselves.</p>
<p>And I do believe I’ve exhausted my knowledge of Giants. Oh Wait. There was that Fee-fi-fo-fum giant. As I recall, Jack slew him.</p>
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		By: Truth Unites... and Divides		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;George Pal&lt;/b&gt;:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;Truth U, Thank you.
And I am well acquainted with the biblical tale.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

George Pal, you&#039;re most welcome.  Are you also familiar with the biblical story of Joshua and Caleb?  It&#039;s also a historical recounting of courage and cowardice in the Old Testament.

Joshua and Caleb were picked along with ten other men to explore the Promised Land and give a report back to Moses and the people.

Here&#039;s the abbreviated report and the response:

“We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit.  &lt;b&gt;But the people who live there are powerful,&lt;/b&gt; and the cities are fortified and very large.&quot; 

Then Caleb silenced the people before Moses and said, “We should go up and take possession of the land, for &lt;b&gt;we can certainly do it.&lt;/b&gt;”

But the men who had gone up with him said, “We can’t attack those people; they are stronger than we are.”  And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, “The land we explored devours those living in it. &lt;b&gt;All the people we saw there are of great size.&lt;/b&gt;&quot;

George Pal, because of that fear they almost stoned the courageous Joshua and Caleb!  Instead, they listened to the ten cowards.  Does this surprise you?  

Guess what happened to the ten cowards.  

&quot;So the men Moses had sent to explore the land, who returned and made the whole community grumble against him by spreading a bad report about it– these men who were responsible for spreading the bad report about the land were struck down and died of a plague before the Lord.&quot;

So George Pal, looking at David and Goliath, Joshua and Caleb, we see both courage and calculated cowardice when facing Giants.  

Who are the Giants that the cowards are afraid of today?

o  The Libs.

o  The Liberal Meanstream Media

o  The people (some/many of them LIVs) who believe the lies or half-truths of the Libs and the Lib MSM propaganda arm.

o  GOP RINOs

Any other Giants that you can think of, George Pal?

George Pal, do you think the Giants listed above which so many calculating pragmatic so-called conservatives are cowardly afraid of, are they that much more formidable and unbeatable than the Giants that David, Joshua, and Caleb faced?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>George Pal</b>:  <i>&#8220;Truth U, Thank you.<br />
And I am well acquainted with the biblical tale.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>George Pal, you&#8217;re most welcome.  Are you also familiar with the biblical story of Joshua and Caleb?  It&#8217;s also a historical recounting of courage and cowardice in the Old Testament.</p>
<p>Joshua and Caleb were picked along with ten other men to explore the Promised Land and give a report back to Moses and the people.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the abbreviated report and the response:</p>
<p>“We went into the land to which you sent us, and it does flow with milk and honey! Here is its fruit.  <b>But the people who live there are powerful,</b> and the cities are fortified and very large.&#8221; </p>
<p>Then Caleb silenced the people before Moses and said, “We should go up and take possession of the land, for <b>we can certainly do it.</b>”</p>
<p>But the men who had gone up with him said, “We can’t attack those people; they are stronger than we are.”  And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, “The land we explored devours those living in it. <b>All the people we saw there are of great size.</b>&#8221;</p>
<p>George Pal, because of that fear they almost stoned the courageous Joshua and Caleb!  Instead, they listened to the ten cowards.  Does this surprise you?  </p>
<p>Guess what happened to the ten cowards.  </p>
<p>&#8220;So the men Moses had sent to explore the land, who returned and made the whole community grumble against him by spreading a bad report about it– these men who were responsible for spreading the bad report about the land were struck down and died of a plague before the Lord.&#8221;</p>
<p>So George Pal, looking at David and Goliath, Joshua and Caleb, we see both courage and calculated cowardice when facing Giants.  </p>
<p>Who are the Giants that the cowards are afraid of today?</p>
<p>o  The Libs.</p>
<p>o  The Liberal Meanstream Media</p>
<p>o  The people (some/many of them LIVs) who believe the lies or half-truths of the Libs and the Lib MSM propaganda arm.</p>
<p>o  GOP RINOs</p>
<p>Any other Giants that you can think of, George Pal?</p>
<p>George Pal, do you think the Giants listed above which so many calculating pragmatic so-called conservatives are cowardly afraid of, are they that much more formidable and unbeatable than the Giants that David, Joshua, and Caleb faced?</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Carl in Atlanta&lt;/b&gt;:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;I think I accurately recall growing public resentment at the Administration despite the MSM’s ceaseless pro-Obama and anti GOP/Cruz propaganda.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Yes  Which reinforces my earlier argument that impeachment and removal has the benefit of FORCING Tyrannical liars to lie.  Shine the Light on Liberal Liars, RINO Liars, and on the people who believe the lies of liars.  This is a good thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Carl in Atlanta</b>:  <i>&#8220;I think I accurately recall growing public resentment at the Administration despite the MSM’s ceaseless pro-Obama and anti GOP/Cruz propaganda.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes  Which reinforces my earlier argument that impeachment and removal has the benefit of FORCING Tyrannical liars to lie.  Shine the Light on Liberal Liars, RINO Liars, and on the people who believe the lies of liars.  This is a good thing.</p>
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		By: carl in atlanta		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe there&#039;s a middle path. I keep hearing Rush Limbaugh scoffing at the GOP&#039;s fear of the government shutdown threatened by Obama if Congress tries to use the power of the purse on appropriations, even if that power is exercised in a narrow, targeted way (e.g., the immigration Executive Order). 

He&#039;s been insisting that the conventional wisdom that the GOP was seriously damaged as a result of the 2013 shutdown is pure baloney, as evidenced by this past election.

 I don&#039;t know whether Rush is right, but looking back to the October 2013 shutdown, I recall a lot of outrage at the administration due to the theatrical and draconian measures it took: blocking scenic turnouts near mount Rushmore to prevent travelers from even looking at the carvings, closing all the national parks, even those that are never staffed, barricades at war memorials and all over DC, etc. I think I accurately recall growing public resentment at the Administration despite the MSM&#039;s ceaseless pro-Obama and anti GOP/Cruz propaganda. I remember hating to see the GOP cave in because I was beginning to think that this might backfire on the administration.  With a narrow, targeted denial of funding of something that&#039;s unpopular I think the Administration runs the risk of a major backlash if it shuts down the government and tries to blame it on congress.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there&#8217;s a middle path. I keep hearing Rush Limbaugh scoffing at the GOP&#8217;s fear of the government shutdown threatened by Obama if Congress tries to use the power of the purse on appropriations, even if that power is exercised in a narrow, targeted way (e.g., the immigration Executive Order). </p>
<p>He&#8217;s been insisting that the conventional wisdom that the GOP was seriously damaged as a result of the 2013 shutdown is pure baloney, as evidenced by this past election.</p>
<p> I don&#8217;t know whether Rush is right, but looking back to the October 2013 shutdown, I recall a lot of outrage at the administration due to the theatrical and draconian measures it took: blocking scenic turnouts near mount Rushmore to prevent travelers from even looking at the carvings, closing all the national parks, even those that are never staffed, barricades at war memorials and all over DC, etc. I think I accurately recall growing public resentment at the Administration despite the MSM&#8217;s ceaseless pro-Obama and anti GOP/Cruz propaganda. I remember hating to see the GOP cave in because I was beginning to think that this might backfire on the administration.  With a narrow, targeted denial of funding of something that&#8217;s unpopular I think the Administration runs the risk of a major backlash if it shuts down the government and tries to blame it on congress.</p>
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		By: George Pal		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Truth U,

Thank you.

And I am well acquainted with the biblical tale. It demonstrates further that in small tales there exist epic instruction, guidance, and inspiration.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth U,</p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
<p>And I am well acquainted with the biblical tale. It demonstrates further that in small tales there exist epic instruction, guidance, and inspiration.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bellarion the Fortunate:

I used the kamikaze analogy &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2014/12/03/to-impeach-or-not-to-impeach-that-is-the-question/#comment-851867&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s suicide time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bellarion the Fortunate:</p>
<p>I used the kamikaze analogy <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2014/12/03/to-impeach-or-not-to-impeach-that-is-the-question/#comment-851867" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s suicide time.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[The debate about whether to impeach, and the arguments for doing so sound awfully like discussions by the Japanese General Staff about whether to use kamikaze tactics during World War II. Of course by that time, the war was already lost. And that&#039;s what suicide tactics really are. They are employed by the loser after it&#039;s too late, because for those losers the issue has become existential, and they would rather die than lose. 

 I fear that&#039;s where the conservative movement is. Already defeated, and looking for a way to go out in a blaze of glory. Often defeat becomes inevitable long before it actually happens, and it&#039;s not uncommon for most of the casualties to be inflicted after the outcome is a foregone conclusion. 

I don&#039;t dispute that the caliber of conservative and Republican leadership is very low. If it were better, conservatives  might
be doing better than they are. I am not ready to despair, and therefore won&#039;t advocate tactics that can only fail. People like to use military analogies in these sorts of arguments, and they sometimes point to heroic last stands that in some way inspired men to greater resistance, such as Thermopolyae or The Alamo. But the difference is that in those cases the defenders could hope to inspire others because the defending side had not committed all, or even most of it&#039;s forces to the last stand. They could hope for help from the outside. In any case, none of these battles began as a suicide attempt. 

My fellow conservatives, Colonel Fannin is not coming with reinforcements. We&#039;re it. Despair and suicide can lead only to final and total defeat. Space limitations don&#039;t permit me to summarize it here, but hunt down Douglas Southall Freeman&#039;s essay on Leadership In The Enforced Defensive if you want get an idea of the sort of thinking we need now. Actually, if I were to look for a military analogy to the present low ebb of conservative fortunes, it might be the Confederate defense of Atlanta in 1864, and I find that almost too sad for words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The debate about whether to impeach, and the arguments for doing so sound awfully like discussions by the Japanese General Staff about whether to use kamikaze tactics during World War II. Of course by that time, the war was already lost. And that&#8217;s what suicide tactics really are. They are employed by the loser after it&#8217;s too late, because for those losers the issue has become existential, and they would rather die than lose. </p>
<p> I fear that&#8217;s where the conservative movement is. Already defeated, and looking for a way to go out in a blaze of glory. Often defeat becomes inevitable long before it actually happens, and it&#8217;s not uncommon for most of the casualties to be inflicted after the outcome is a foregone conclusion. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t dispute that the caliber of conservative and Republican leadership is very low. If it were better, conservatives  might<br />
be doing better than they are. I am not ready to despair, and therefore won&#8217;t advocate tactics that can only fail. People like to use military analogies in these sorts of arguments, and they sometimes point to heroic last stands that in some way inspired men to greater resistance, such as Thermopolyae or The Alamo. But the difference is that in those cases the defenders could hope to inspire others because the defending side had not committed all, or even most of it&#8217;s forces to the last stand. They could hope for help from the outside. In any case, none of these battles began as a suicide attempt. </p>
<p>My fellow conservatives, Colonel Fannin is not coming with reinforcements. We&#8217;re it. Despair and suicide can lead only to final and total defeat. Space limitations don&#8217;t permit me to summarize it here, but hunt down Douglas Southall Freeman&#8217;s essay on Leadership In The Enforced Defensive if you want get an idea of the sort of thinking we need now. Actually, if I were to look for a military analogy to the present low ebb of conservative fortunes, it might be the Confederate defense of Atlanta in 1864, and I find that almost too sad for words.</p>
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