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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/11/25/understanding-the-nihilist-in-the-white-house/#comment-850258</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[You nailed it neo. He is a narcissistic destroyer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You nailed it neo. He is a narcissistic destroyer.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/11/25/understanding-the-nihilist-in-the-white-house/#comment-850236</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[physicsguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[T  you are definitely an optimist.  I, by nature, am a pessimist.  And as of last week feel like have been beaten into submission.  Now with the revelation that Cryin&#039; John and Doughboy McConnell are going to do nothing, I see no hope at all.   

As I wrote last week:  BHO and the Dems have played a brilliant game... they won and it looks like there&#039;s absolutely nothing to be done about it, especially with the GOP caving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T  you are definitely an optimist.  I, by nature, am a pessimist.  And as of last week feel like have been beaten into submission.  Now with the revelation that Cryin&#8217; John and Doughboy McConnell are going to do nothing, I see no hope at all.   </p>
<p>As I wrote last week:  BHO and the Dems have played a brilliant game&#8230; they won and it looks like there&#8217;s absolutely nothing to be done about it, especially with the GOP caving.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[She&#039;s afraid. Peggy of the measured cadences and NPR delivery, is afraid.  Afraid of losing a lot of things. But as many here have pointed out she is most afraid of what she would see if she did have the courage to really look: she would lose the last of her illusions. 

That last comforting illusion being that the deeper kind of Nietzschean philosophical nihilism, one which sets human anthropology completely on its head, has not yet become the default position of the postmodern left.  But it has.

There&#039;s not a trace of Natural Law man left in their view of anthropological reality - just accidental appetites and welling and receding fields of domination.  Peggy dare not look. Her conservatism could not survive an encounter with that kind of gleeful, entropy embracing unknowing.

&quot;Man does not behold the face of the Gorgon and live.&quot; LOL

At least not Peggy&#039;s kind of humankind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s afraid. Peggy of the measured cadences and NPR delivery, is afraid.  Afraid of losing a lot of things. But as many here have pointed out she is most afraid of what she would see if she did have the courage to really look: she would lose the last of her illusions. </p>
<p>That last comforting illusion being that the deeper kind of Nietzschean philosophical nihilism, one which sets human anthropology completely on its head, has not yet become the default position of the postmodern left.  But it has.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s not a trace of Natural Law man left in their view of anthropological reality &#8211; just accidental appetites and welling and receding fields of domination.  Peggy dare not look. Her conservatism could not survive an encounter with that kind of gleeful, entropy embracing unknowing.</p>
<p>&#8220;Man does not behold the face of the Gorgon and live.&#8221; LOL</p>
<p>At least not Peggy&#8217;s kind of humankind.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/11/25/understanding-the-nihilist-in-the-white-house/#comment-850216</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[George Pal,

&quot;Obama, certainly not a wordsmith as is Noonan, is though, a wordmonger — they’re his wares for sale. And Noonan et al are mesmerized by words.&quot;

I think that is an excellent point.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Pal,</p>
<p>&#8220;Obama, certainly not a wordsmith as is Noonan, is though, a wordmonger — they’re his wares for sale. And Noonan et al are mesmerized by words.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that is an excellent point.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/11/25/understanding-the-nihilist-in-the-white-house/#comment-850215</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain,

&quot;. . . there is a real probability that “the almost total disavowal of Obama’s nihilism in the 2014 midterms” will turn out to be… temporary.&quot;

If the GOP acts as you note they could, then yes, they will be replaced by a new wave of Dems.  I offer that this is as it should be.  The real question for me is:  &quot;Will the GOP begin to realize that they can&#039;t continue as Dem-lite?&quot;  If they continue as such, then the choice will be Dem more often than not.

My point, GB, is that I think too many on the right see small skirmishes (Attkisson, D&#039;Sousza, Logan) as indications of the &lt;i&gt;outcome&lt;/i&gt; of the war.  I think that this is a false reading.  Furthermore, while Attkisson may have been muzzled by CBS, she seems to be doing a pretty good job of striking back, getting her story out and causing an unknown amount of residual damage to the leftist MSM.  Bernie Goldberg has been singing this song for a decade (see his books &lt;i&gt;Bias&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;Arrogance&lt;/i&gt;), now Attkisson comes along and provides proof positive that Goldberg has been accurate all along.  Perhaps a new meme is beginning to ne formed in the mind of the American public.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain,</p>
<p>&#8220;. . . there is a real probability that “the almost total disavowal of Obama’s nihilism in the 2014 midterms” will turn out to be… temporary.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the GOP acts as you note they could, then yes, they will be replaced by a new wave of Dems.  I offer that this is as it should be.  The real question for me is:  &#8220;Will the GOP begin to realize that they can&#8217;t continue as Dem-lite?&#8221;  If they continue as such, then the choice will be Dem more often than not.</p>
<p>My point, GB, is that I think too many on the right see small skirmishes (Attkisson, D&#8217;Sousza, Logan) as indications of the <i>outcome</i> of the war.  I think that this is a false reading.  Furthermore, while Attkisson may have been muzzled by CBS, she seems to be doing a pretty good job of striking back, getting her story out and causing an unknown amount of residual damage to the leftist MSM.  Bernie Goldberg has been singing this song for a decade (see his books <i>Bias</i> and <i>Arrogance</i>), now Attkisson comes along and provides proof positive that Goldberg has been accurate all along.  Perhaps a new meme is beginning to ne formed in the mind of the American public.</p>
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		By: George Pal		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Pal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For whatever reason the many ignore the evidence before their eyes about Obama, the reason Noonan, Brooks, and all those in the punditry class and those in the word trade (Christopher Buckley among them) seem more than a bit obtuse about Obama is because he is one of them. Obama, certainly not a wordsmith as is Noonan, is though, a wordmonger — they’re his wares for sale. And Noonan et al are mesmerized by words. Speak in millenarian tones, as does Obama — slowing the rise of the oceans, we’re the one’s we’ve been waiting for — and the ordinary person thinks to himself WTF? Those same tones, however, seem to beguile the wordy set — I can hear them — “gee I love that kind of talk”. 

What is rarely realized about those who live in liberal cloisters, far removed, from ordinary life, is they are wrapped with more than one layer of bad habit. Noonan seems more than well insulated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For whatever reason the many ignore the evidence before their eyes about Obama, the reason Noonan, Brooks, and all those in the punditry class and those in the word trade (Christopher Buckley among them) seem more than a bit obtuse about Obama is because he is one of them. Obama, certainly not a wordsmith as is Noonan, is though, a wordmonger — they’re his wares for sale. And Noonan et al are mesmerized by words. Speak in millenarian tones, as does Obama — slowing the rise of the oceans, we’re the one’s we’ve been waiting for — and the ordinary person thinks to himself WTF? Those same tones, however, seem to beguile the wordy set — I can hear them — “gee I love that kind of talk”. </p>
<p>What is rarely realized about those who live in liberal cloisters, far removed, from ordinary life, is they are wrapped with more than one layer of bad habit. Noonan seems more than well insulated.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Maybe what Peggy is trying to do with all her recent columns on Obama is to skate very close to the edge of calling him an unrepentant Alinskyite but never actually going there straightforwardly -- because to do that would put her in the &quot;crazies&quot; camp and deny her access to the inner circles of politics, not to mention threaten her perch at the Wall Street Journal.

What she does succeed in doing, though, is to paint a fairly clear picture of a radical, and perhaps readers of her columns are picking up on that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe what Peggy is trying to do with all her recent columns on Obama is to skate very close to the edge of calling him an unrepentant Alinskyite but never actually going there straightforwardly &#8212; because to do that would put her in the &#8220;crazies&#8221; camp and deny her access to the inner circles of politics, not to mention threaten her perch at the Wall Street Journal.</p>
<p>What she does succeed in doing, though, is to paint a fairly clear picture of a radical, and perhaps readers of her columns are picking up on that.</p>
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		By: Illuminati		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Illuminati]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 19:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good article Neo.  As Neo suggested in her article, Obama is clearly engaged in active nihilism.  The open question is where he wants to take the country.  

To the average American it is probably less frightful to believe that Obama as a leftist ideologue who wishes to turn us into Europe than it is to believe that he an Islamic sympathizer who is actively promoting the rapid Islamization of the USA.  The alternative, that Obama wants to turn us into a typical Islamic hell hole is much more frightening.  Many people who are willing to acknowledge Obama&#039;s leftist leanings are probably unable to admit his Islamist core.

It is much too  frightening for many Americans to entertain the possibility that Obama&#039;s America is not an American version of Europe but rather an Islamized America.  After all, at the moment Europe is not a bad place.  The people are relatively free and relatively prosperous.  Obama&#039;s Islamized America is a much more frightful place.  If we are lucky, he will turn America into a copy of Indonesia or Malaysia which still have a degree of religious freedom but which both have independent Sharia courts in addition to civil courts.  At the worst he will turn us into a Pakistan or an Iran in which Islamists rule supreme and in which Sharia law is the supreme law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article Neo.  As Neo suggested in her article, Obama is clearly engaged in active nihilism.  The open question is where he wants to take the country.  </p>
<p>To the average American it is probably less frightful to believe that Obama as a leftist ideologue who wishes to turn us into Europe than it is to believe that he an Islamic sympathizer who is actively promoting the rapid Islamization of the USA.  The alternative, that Obama wants to turn us into a typical Islamic hell hole is much more frightening.  Many people who are willing to acknowledge Obama&#8217;s leftist leanings are probably unable to admit his Islamist core.</p>
<p>It is much too  frightening for many Americans to entertain the possibility that Obama&#8217;s America is not an American version of Europe but rather an Islamized America.  After all, at the moment Europe is not a bad place.  The people are relatively free and relatively prosperous.  Obama&#8217;s Islamized America is a much more frightful place.  If we are lucky, he will turn America into a copy of Indonesia or Malaysia which still have a degree of religious freedom but which both have independent Sharia courts in addition to civil courts.  At the worst he will turn us into a Pakistan or an Iran in which Islamists rule supreme and in which Sharia law is the supreme law.</p>
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		By: junior		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[junior]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Rachelle -

During the 2008 campaign, someone over at NRO (I think) noted that many people were projecting views on John McCain.  Thus, rational people could believe that (I think this was the example used) McCain was for gun control, while other rational people could believe that McCain was against gun control.  Obviously McCain couldn&#039;t hold both positions, as they were contradictory.  But people on both sides of the argument believed that he was in their camp.  The writer noted that in such cases, people were projecting their own views onto McCain.

I think we&#039;ve seen something similar - and to a much greater extent - with Obama.  That&#039;s why he&#039;s managed to deceive so many people as to his true intentions for such a long time.  The key to such a task is to leave the on being projected onto as a blank slate so that nothing shown actively contradicts the projected views.  And that&#039;s what we&#039;ve seen with Obama.

 - Large chunks of his past are veiled
 - Much of what he said in his speeches were empty platitudes designed to make people feel good, but devoid of any real meaning


The result of that is someone who makes you feel good, and thus must be your friend.  Friends think like you do, so he must think like you do.  And because you haven&#039;t heard anything about his past to indicate that he disagrees with you, he must agree with you.

For a rather shameless example of this sort of thing on display, merely look at the &quot;Did you know?&quot; snippet in President Reagan&#039;s Whitehouse.gov biography that talks about how Obama is just like Reagan!


Of course, the problem with Obama&#039;s strategy is that one is forced to take positions when in the public eye.  And the longer one is in the public eye, the more positions one will be forced to take.  Obama has now been in the public eye for several years, and the projecting doesn&#039;t work as well as it once did.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rachelle &#8211;</p>
<p>During the 2008 campaign, someone over at NRO (I think) noted that many people were projecting views on John McCain.  Thus, rational people could believe that (I think this was the example used) McCain was for gun control, while other rational people could believe that McCain was against gun control.  Obviously McCain couldn&#8217;t hold both positions, as they were contradictory.  But people on both sides of the argument believed that he was in their camp.  The writer noted that in such cases, people were projecting their own views onto McCain.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;ve seen something similar &#8211; and to a much greater extent &#8211; with Obama.  That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s managed to deceive so many people as to his true intentions for such a long time.  The key to such a task is to leave the on being projected onto as a blank slate so that nothing shown actively contradicts the projected views.  And that&#8217;s what we&#8217;ve seen with Obama.</p>
<p> &#8211; Large chunks of his past are veiled<br />
 &#8211; Much of what he said in his speeches were empty platitudes designed to make people feel good, but devoid of any real meaning</p>
<p>The result of that is someone who makes you feel good, and thus must be your friend.  Friends think like you do, so he must think like you do.  And because you haven&#8217;t heard anything about his past to indicate that he disagrees with you, he must agree with you.</p>
<p>For a rather shameless example of this sort of thing on display, merely look at the &#8220;Did you know?&#8221; snippet in President Reagan&#8217;s Whitehouse.gov biography that talks about how Obama is just like Reagan!</p>
<p>Of course, the problem with Obama&#8217;s strategy is that one is forced to take positions when in the public eye.  And the longer one is in the public eye, the more positions one will be forced to take.  Obama has now been in the public eye for several years, and the projecting doesn&#8217;t work as well as it once did.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;what explains the almost total disavowal of Obama’s nihilism in the 2014 midterms?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

Obama&#039;s approval rating is at 40%... thus the 2014 midterms were not a disavowal of Obama but a reflection of a disavowal of democrat leadership in Congress. 

If by Nov. of 2015, the GOP is perceived by the majority of Americans as equally ineffective, new democrats will be elected in their place. 

Given 1) the GOP&#039;s track record, 2) their recent declaration in chambers that they will NOT oppose Obama&#039;s Executive Ordered &#039;amnesty&#039;, 3) Obama&#039;s veto power, 4) the MSM&#039;s unceasing propaganda and 5) the certain assignment of blame to the GOP by Obama, dems and the MSM... there is a real probability that &quot;the almost total disavowal of Obama’s nihilism in the 2014 midterms&quot; will turn out to be... temporary. 

Conversely, given the above factors, if the GOP does well in the 2016 election, it will not be due to their competence but rather a reflection of Obama&#039;s continued apparent incompetence, that actually conceals design.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;what explains the almost total disavowal of Obama’s nihilism in the 2014 midterms?&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s approval rating is at 40%&#8230; thus the 2014 midterms were not a disavowal of Obama but a reflection of a disavowal of democrat leadership in Congress. </p>
<p>If by Nov. of 2015, the GOP is perceived by the majority of Americans as equally ineffective, new democrats will be elected in their place. </p>
<p>Given 1) the GOP&#8217;s track record, 2) their recent declaration in chambers that they will NOT oppose Obama&#8217;s Executive Ordered &#8216;amnesty&#8217;, 3) Obama&#8217;s veto power, 4) the MSM&#8217;s unceasing propaganda and 5) the certain assignment of blame to the GOP by Obama, dems and the MSM&#8230; there is a real probability that &#8220;the almost total disavowal of Obama’s nihilism in the 2014 midterms&#8221; will turn out to be&#8230; temporary. </p>
<p>Conversely, given the above factors, if the GOP does well in the 2016 election, it will not be due to their competence but rather a reflection of Obama&#8217;s continued apparent incompetence, that actually conceals design.</p>
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