Comments on: The US and China: wishin’ and hopin’

By: Beverly

Beverly — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 02:57:09 +0000

Obama, the Marxist with a huge-arse chip on his shoulder, negotiated with his fellow communists to deliver America’s economy, trussed up like a Thanksgiving turkey, to the ChiCom butchers.

It’s all perfectly predictable — he, like both his vile parents, hates us and is doing everything he can to cripple us. Quite deliberately. I’m with Rickl.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 00:47:39 +0000

Yes, this is as much about damaging the American economy as it is about satisfying the Enviro-Nazis. Obama sees it as ‘killing two birds with one stone’.

By: rickl

rickl — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 00:30:06 +0000

Aside from the fact that AGW is the biggest fraud in human history, cheap, abundant energy is the lifeblood of a modern economy. There is no way that much carbon-based energy can be replaced with wind and solar.

If implemented, the treaty will handicap the American economy relative to other nations. This is of a piece with Obama’s redistributionist philosophy.

This is about permanently lowering the living standard of the American middle class. Obama’s hatred of White Americans is palpable. He thinks we’ve had it too good for too long and need to be taken down a few pegs. We need to have our noses rubbed in the poverty that “people of color” experience.

My hatred for that man is incandescent. He is literally Satanic.

By: parker

parker — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 23:30:38 +0000

Its ‘green’ theater to drag down the economy even more while posing as the noble, visionary messiah.

By: Wolla Dalbo

Wolla Dalbo — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:52:02 +0000

Since this was not an actual treaty that requires the advice and consent of the Senate but an agreement, I believe that it only lasts the life of Obama’s administration, and if a new President wants to renegotiate it or even reject it outright, he can.

By: J.J.

J.J. — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:28:33 +0000

The agreement can be summarized this way:
You (the U.S.) agreed to spend money to buy a new car that get’s better gas mileage and a new furnace that doesn’t burn as much natural gas. You also agreed to send donations to poor people who MAY use them to emit less CO2.

Your neighbors (the ChiComs) agreed to (maybe) buy a more efficient car and furnace in 2030.

Whatta deal! 🙁

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:15:54 +0000

The Chinese just played us for suckers again. Since when have communists actually cared about the environment? But by agreeing to it, they got some concessions out of Obama. The first concession we now know is that we will not even lend moral support to Tibetan independence. We can be sure that there were other concessions made by Obama that will in time emerge. And in 2030 the Chinese can simply abrogate the agreement and demand new 'negotiations'. Obama got what he wanted too. By getting the Chinese to formally agree, he gets the political leverage to move forward with his climate change agenda. The impact of which will be profound.

By: Artfldgr

Artfldgr — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:28:03 +0000

Chinese Espionage, Weapons Shift Asian Power Balance

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/110714-725617-chinese-military-advancement-shift-asian-power-balance.htm

By: blert

blert — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:15:42 +0000

A true roll back in carbon dioxide partial pressure would curtail agricultural output and the regrowth of all tropical forests.

In the tropics, the rate limiting compound is carbon dioxide, water and sun are not limiting.

Likewise, in modern agriculture, fertilizers and irrigation are tuned in to produce maximum results. Again, the rate limiting compound is carbon dioxide — from the air.

This reality is acknowledged in all bio-diesel programs. Carbon dioxide gas is force fed to the algae, usually at twenty times ordinary partial pressures. Growth is, of course, explosive.

NASA studied all of this fifty-years ago. Again it was established that carbon dioxide — at our normal levels — was THE rate limiting compound for plant growth. (algae, again, was used)

The bottom line is that global harvests would actually shrink if carbon dioxide partial pressure dropped back.

There is the widespread tendency to overlook carbon dioxide as a rate limiting compound because it’s available at the same concentrations world wide. Fish don’t recognize water. We ignore air.

Outside of NASA, and the bio-diesel crowd, everyone ignores carbon dioxide.

BTW, in the ancient past the partial pressure of carbon dioxide was as much as fifty times as great as at present. That gas now holds up the white cliffs of Dover — and a lot more.

By: Ray

Ray — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:30:30 +0000

All the AGW zealots predictions were wrong. Dr. Douglas Hoyt, PhD physics, kept a score card on their predictions. Remember the prophet Al Gore predicted the Artic would be ice free by the end of this year. He lives in fantasy land.
http://www.warwickhughes.com/hoyt/climate-change.htm