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		By: RedState: CDC incompetence and dishonesty continue		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/27/squeaky-wheel-kaci-hickox-gets-the-grease-out-of-quarantine/#comment-843093</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RedState: CDC incompetence and dishonesty continue]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Exasperated		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/27/squeaky-wheel-kaci-hickox-gets-the-grease-out-of-quarantine/#comment-843083</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exasperated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was listening to Howie Carr (Boston radio talk show) on the way home today.  He was chuckling over how Kaci Hickox kicked Gov Christie&#039;s @$$.  However, I thought the Gov was well rid of her and saved NJ taxpayer&#039;s a bundle by handing her off to Maine. I believe her interaction with Maine has also been contentious. In the meantime, the Governor has discharged his obligation to the citizens of NJ, who can&#039;t be financially on the hook for every potential ebola patient that is in transit to somewhere else. 
Did MS Hickox fly commercial to Maine?  Anyone?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to Howie Carr (Boston radio talk show) on the way home today.  He was chuckling over how Kaci Hickox kicked Gov Christie&#8217;s @$$.  However, I thought the Gov was well rid of her and saved NJ taxpayer&#8217;s a bundle by handing her off to Maine. I believe her interaction with Maine has also been contentious. In the meantime, the Governor has discharged his obligation to the citizens of NJ, who can&#8217;t be financially on the hook for every potential ebola patient that is in transit to somewhere else.<br />
Did MS Hickox fly commercial to Maine?  Anyone?</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Australia is &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/28/world/asia/australia-immigration-policy-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t2&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;going much farther&lt;/a&gt; re a quarantine -- they&#039;re requiring &quot;a mandatory 21-day quarantine prior to entering the country. That applies to health-care professionals returning to Australia after serving in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;prior to entering the country&lt;/i&gt;

Sounds like Kaci Hickox has a new career path being readied just for her. Just think of the media face-time potential for her in all this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Australia is <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/28/world/asia/australia-immigration-policy-ebola/index.html?hpt=hp_t2" rel="nofollow">going much farther</a> re a quarantine &#8212; they&#8217;re requiring &#8220;a mandatory 21-day quarantine prior to entering the country. That applies to health-care professionals returning to Australia after serving in Guinea, Liberia, and Sierra Leone.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>prior to entering the country</i></p>
<p>Sounds like Kaci Hickox has a new career path being readied just for her. Just think of the media face-time potential for her in all this.</p>
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		By: farthing		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/27/squeaky-wheel-kaci-hickox-gets-the-grease-out-of-quarantine/#comment-842989</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t mean to be totally cynical of Doctors Without Borders.  I think there are a lot of doctors in that program who are doing it more for the moral preening they&#039;ll be able to perform for the rest of their lives after they return, with the actual helping of sick people as an aside.

However, there are clearly doctors who participate in the program because they are good people and want to do good for the world.  Unfortunately, these are usually the doctors who don&#039;t live to return.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be totally cynical of Doctors Without Borders.  I think there are a lot of doctors in that program who are doing it more for the moral preening they&#8217;ll be able to perform for the rest of their lives after they return, with the actual helping of sick people as an aside.</p>
<p>However, there are clearly doctors who participate in the program because they are good people and want to do good for the world.  Unfortunately, these are usually the doctors who don&#8217;t live to return.</p>
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		By: CDC incompetence and dishonesty continue &#124; InTheKnow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CDC incompetence and dishonesty continue &#124; InTheKnow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 18:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: farthing		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/27/squeaky-wheel-kaci-hickox-gets-the-grease-out-of-quarantine/#comment-842978</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 17:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: “Hickox and Dr. Spencer are very very different.”

No, I don&#039;t think they are.  I don&#039;t know Dr. Spencer&#039;s background, but I assume if he was working directly with ebola patients, he knew a lot about the disease and its forms of presentation, which is exponentially more than the average doctor.  He might have had a background in epidemiology, or at least learned a lot while on the job. In fact, he probably had a better handle on what the disease was capable of than the CDC officials who instituted the &quot;take your temperature&quot; policy.

The fact that he reportedly did meticulously monitor his temperature makes him more despicable than Hickox in my mind.  Someone who thought they were &quot;invulnerable&quot; to the disease wouldn&#039;t have followed the guidelines so closely. His actions make it seem that he knew full well there was a chance he could be infected.  

He, more than most, likely knew that body temperature wasn&#039;t reliable early on in infection.  He could have done more than what the CDC required (self-quarantine at home for a time) but didn&#039;t, because he wanted to go out THAT NIGHT and party, and if he didn&#039;t end up getting sick, he could always fall back on the &quot;I did everything the CDC told me!&quot; excuse.  He not only exposed his fiancee before determining if he was in the clear, but all the people he came in contact with when he went out on the town.  Remember, he determined he was symptomatic and quite possibly infected just the next morning after coming back to the US. He couldn&#039;t even wait just ONE NIGHT to possibly avoid exposing hundreds of people to ebola.  

With Dr. Spencer, just like Hickox, it was all about &quot;me!, me!, me!&quot;.  This attitude makes me suspect Spencer&#039;s motivations behind going to Africa were less about &quot;helping people&quot; and &quot;global goodwill&quot; and more about resume-building, moral preening in liberal circles, and photos to be taken with cute African children to hang on his office wall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: “Hickox and Dr. Spencer are very very different.”</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t think they are.  I don&#8217;t know Dr. Spencer&#8217;s background, but I assume if he was working directly with ebola patients, he knew a lot about the disease and its forms of presentation, which is exponentially more than the average doctor.  He might have had a background in epidemiology, or at least learned a lot while on the job. In fact, he probably had a better handle on what the disease was capable of than the CDC officials who instituted the &#8220;take your temperature&#8221; policy.</p>
<p>The fact that he reportedly did meticulously monitor his temperature makes him more despicable than Hickox in my mind.  Someone who thought they were &#8220;invulnerable&#8221; to the disease wouldn&#8217;t have followed the guidelines so closely. His actions make it seem that he knew full well there was a chance he could be infected.  </p>
<p>He, more than most, likely knew that body temperature wasn&#8217;t reliable early on in infection.  He could have done more than what the CDC required (self-quarantine at home for a time) but didn&#8217;t, because he wanted to go out THAT NIGHT and party, and if he didn&#8217;t end up getting sick, he could always fall back on the &#8220;I did everything the CDC told me!&#8221; excuse.  He not only exposed his fiancee before determining if he was in the clear, but all the people he came in contact with when he went out on the town.  Remember, he determined he was symptomatic and quite possibly infected just the next morning after coming back to the US. He couldn&#8217;t even wait just ONE NIGHT to possibly avoid exposing hundreds of people to ebola.  </p>
<p>With Dr. Spencer, just like Hickox, it was all about &#8220;me!, me!, me!&#8221;.  This attitude makes me suspect Spencer&#8217;s motivations behind going to Africa were less about &#8220;helping people&#8221; and &#8220;global goodwill&#8221; and more about resume-building, moral preening in liberal circles, and photos to be taken with cute African children to hang on his office wall.</p>
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		By: farthing		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[farthing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leftists like Hickox always talk about the &quot;common good&quot; and &quot;science&quot; but they let the mask slip occasionally and you realize it is all about &quot;me!, me!, me!&quot;.

How much does she really care about her children?  She presumably has seen the horrors of children dying from ebola in Africa.  

Even if there was only an infintessimal chance of you having ebola and transmitting it to your kids, would you take that chance, or wait a few weeks to make sure there was absolutely no chance of your kids dying a horrible death (and worse, through a virus that you yourself passed to them)?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leftists like Hickox always talk about the &#8220;common good&#8221; and &#8220;science&#8221; but they let the mask slip occasionally and you realize it is all about &#8220;me!, me!, me!&#8221;.</p>
<p>How much does she really care about her children?  She presumably has seen the horrors of children dying from ebola in Africa.  </p>
<p>Even if there was only an infintessimal chance of you having ebola and transmitting it to your kids, would you take that chance, or wait a few weeks to make sure there was absolutely no chance of your kids dying a horrible death (and worse, through a virus that you yourself passed to them)?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Here’s what I don’t get. I’m a doctor or a nurse who’s just seen up close the hideous suffering of people with ebola, and yet I’m not terribly concerned that I could just possibly come down with it myself and then spread it to others. So I go bowling, take the subway, or get really miffed when I’m stopped from taking a plane up to Maine and put in isolation until I’m given the all-clear.&lt;/b&gt;

That should be relatively easy for you to understand. On a previous topic you supported government coverage or protection of a kind.

That person in the story was merely relying on the gov and his organization to tell him what to do, which will become right. He wasn&#039;t going it alone or making a cowboy act.

Just because some stranger gives him a rule to do X, doesn&#039;t mean he will recognize it as being legitimate until he knows it comes from his Overlords and slave masters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Here’s what I don’t get. I’m a doctor or a nurse who’s just seen up close the hideous suffering of people with ebola, and yet I’m not terribly concerned that I could just possibly come down with it myself and then spread it to others. So I go bowling, take the subway, or get really miffed when I’m stopped from taking a plane up to Maine and put in isolation until I’m given the all-clear.</b></p>
<p>That should be relatively easy for you to understand. On a previous topic you supported government coverage or protection of a kind.</p>
<p>That person in the story was merely relying on the gov and his organization to tell him what to do, which will become right. He wasn&#8217;t going it alone or making a cowboy act.</p>
<p>Just because some stranger gives him a rule to do X, doesn&#8217;t mean he will recognize it as being legitimate until he knows it comes from his Overlords and slave masters.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Science is faith based now.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science is faith based now.</p>
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		By: DerHahn		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DerHahn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every time I read something like liz&#039;s statement about Brantly I&#039;m getting more convinced that the ebola mutation making this outbreak more severe than others is not air-borne transmission but something that creates asymptomatic carriers (think Typhoid Mary) or a period where the person can transmit the disease but is asymptomatic.  Which makes statements about not being able to catch the disease from asymptomatic people more faith-based than scientific.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I read something like liz&#8217;s statement about Brantly I&#8217;m getting more convinced that the ebola mutation making this outbreak more severe than others is not air-borne transmission but something that creates asymptomatic carriers (think Typhoid Mary) or a period where the person can transmit the disease but is asymptomatic.  Which makes statements about not being able to catch the disease from asymptomatic people more faith-based than scientific.</p>
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