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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-842001</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 19:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Everyone talks about mutations that will make ebola airborne, but virologists my husband has talked to are worried about mutations that may change the latent period, making our quarantine procedures ineffective.  Given the wide area where ebola is now spreading, it seems to me that there could be different mutations to deal with at some time. 

I think what has annoyed me most about the public message on ebola is this assumption that there can be no changes. I would feel better if CDC et al said they were watching all new developments so they can respond immediately to any changes they obseve in transmission.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone talks about mutations that will make ebola airborne, but virologists my husband has talked to are worried about mutations that may change the latent period, making our quarantine procedures ineffective.  Given the wide area where ebola is now spreading, it seems to me that there could be different mutations to deal with at some time. </p>
<p>I think what has annoyed me most about the public message on ebola is this assumption that there can be no changes. I would feel better if CDC et al said they were watching all new developments so they can respond immediately to any changes they obseve in transmission.</p>
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		By: Irene		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes, I misunderstood your earlier post. 

Haas&#039; point that we really don&#039;t know yet whether 21 days for a basic quarantine is sufficient is well taken.  

It&#039;s interesting to see how quickly websites like 538 set about debunking his concern, just like they tried to debunk calls for a travel ban a few days ago.  

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-21-days-long-enough-for-ebola-quarantine/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I misunderstood your earlier post. </p>
<p>Haas&#8217; point that we really don&#8217;t know yet whether 21 days for a basic quarantine is sufficient is well taken.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to see how quickly websites like 538 set about debunking his concern, just like they tried to debunk calls for a travel ban a few days ago.  </p>
<p><a href="http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-21-days-long-enough-for-ebola-quarantine/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/is-21-days-long-enough-for-ebola-quarantine/</a></p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841974</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Irene:

No, actually, that&#039;s NOT what I&#039;m talking about.  Semen and breast milk do supposedly remain infectious for longer periods, but that would not affect the length of a basic quarantine.

I&#039;m talking about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sott.net/article/287756-New-study-suggests-21-day-Ebola-quarantine-is-off-base-virus-could-incubate-longer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this sort of thing&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irene:</p>
<p>No, actually, that&#8217;s NOT what I&#8217;m talking about.  Semen and breast milk do supposedly remain infectious for longer periods, but that would not affect the length of a basic quarantine.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m talking about <a href="http://www.sott.net/article/287756-New-study-suggests-21-day-Ebola-quarantine-is-off-base-virus-could-incubate-longer" rel="nofollow">this sort of thing</a>.</p>
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		By: Irene		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841971</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Irene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The longer period has to do with semen, breast milk, etc..  From WHO:

&quot;People remain infectious as long as their blood and body fluids, including semen and breast milk, contain the virus. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.&quot;

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The longer period has to do with semen, breast milk, etc..  From WHO:</p>
<p>&#8220;People remain infectious as long as their blood and body fluids, including semen and breast milk, contain the virus. Men who have recovered from the disease can still transmit the virus through their semen for up to 7 weeks after recovery from illness.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/</a></p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841964</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[br549:

The incubation given by WHO and the CDC and all the public health authorities is 2-21 days.  That&#039;s the usually accepted length of time.  Some people say the outside figure is longer (I&#039;ve heard by differing amounts).  But my guess is that anything longer, if it occurs, is very much an outlier.

However, what is it all based on?  I&#039;m not especially paranoid, but I&#039;ve come to distrust the CDC et al.  But that is the commonly accepted figure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>br549:</p>
<p>The incubation given by WHO and the CDC and all the public health authorities is 2-21 days.  That&#8217;s the usually accepted length of time.  Some people say the outside figure is longer (I&#8217;ve heard by differing amounts).  But my guess is that anything longer, if it occurs, is very much an outlier.</p>
<p>However, what is it all based on?  I&#8217;m not especially paranoid, but I&#8217;ve come to distrust the CDC et al.  But that is the commonly accepted figure.</p>
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		By: Juli		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841962</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Juli]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If a terrorist really wanted to devastate Middle America they would bomb an animal shelter.  But I think they will never do that because they truly do not understand us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a terrorist really wanted to devastate Middle America they would bomb an animal shelter.  But I think they will never do that because they truly do not understand us.</p>
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		By: Juli		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841961</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I am sick, I do a min-self-quarantine.  I am not a medical professional and I KNOW BETTER.  I don&#039;t need anyone to tell me that, nor do I need anyone to tell me to wipe my bottom when in the bathroom.  I mean WTF?  Who cares what the protocols are for ebola from Doctors Without Borders?  They should know better!  

Same case with that media doctor.  If  I had any outrage left, I would be bubbling over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I am sick, I do a min-self-quarantine.  I am not a medical professional and I KNOW BETTER.  I don&#8217;t need anyone to tell me that, nor do I need anyone to tell me to wipe my bottom when in the bathroom.  I mean WTF?  Who cares what the protocols are for ebola from Doctors Without Borders?  They should know better!  </p>
<p>Same case with that media doctor.  If  I had any outrage left, I would be bubbling over.</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841960</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Question -- isn&#039;t it possible that some terror cell mastermind is angry right now because a couple of lone wolves in Canada and NYC just made his plans a lot more difficult to pull off?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question &#8212; isn&#8217;t it possible that some terror cell mastermind is angry right now because a couple of lone wolves in Canada and NYC just made his plans a lot more difficult to pull off?</p>
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		By: br549		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841955</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I have not been paying attention. Is there a known incubation period for Ebola? Is this the same 21 days of isolation spoken of?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I have not been paying attention. Is there a known incubation period for Ebola? Is this the same 21 days of isolation spoken of?</p>
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		By: stan		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/23/hope/#comment-841954</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2014 16:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The week after 9/11 a banker in a rural county seat said something interesting-- if the terrorists really wanted to frighten all Americans, they would have flown one of the planes into the local Wal-Mart. Far too many Americans got comfortable because they don&#039;t live in Manhattan or DC.

But that goes to the question of what their goal is.  Is it to raise fear or to be effective in efforts to destroy?  Because the more riled up the citizenry, the more difficult it is to succeed with future terror acts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The week after 9/11 a banker in a rural county seat said something interesting&#8211; if the terrorists really wanted to frighten all Americans, they would have flown one of the planes into the local Wal-Mart. Far too many Americans got comfortable because they don&#8217;t live in Manhattan or DC.</p>
<p>But that goes to the question of what their goal is.  Is it to raise fear or to be effective in efforts to destroy?  Because the more riled up the citizenry, the more difficult it is to succeed with future terror acts.</p>
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