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		By: Optimizer		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anyone but a fool knows that when you keep asking &quot;Why?&quot; and you get a different unconvincing answer each time, that the speaker is obviously lying to you, and that&#039;s generally because he knows that the truth would not be good for him. It&#039;s amazing to me that anybody takes the CDC director at his word - as though he, himself, actually believes what he is telling you. The &quot;geniuses&quot; at Politico are just parroting his lies. Among the other absurd things he has said are that we would be violating the West Africans&#039; civil rights, that it would stigmatize them, and that it would hurt their economies. If he weren&#039;t a barking-mad liberal, you&#039;d ask him &quot;No, seriously, why not do a travel ban?&quot; My favorite is his last excuse, because the suggestion that the transport of native Africans to the US is a part of their economy suggests something that became obsolete after the Civil War, IYKWIMAITYD!

We should also notice that the White House hasn&#039;t backtracked a single thing he has said. Obviously, this stuff is coming straight from Obama, himself.

If we also look at the fact that the CDC did not immediately send a team to TX to handle America&#039;s 1st Ebola case, and whisk the patient off to one of the govt facilities set up to handle such cases, it becomes clear that the Obama Adminisitration is determined to ALLOW Ebola to come into the country unabated. (They have done similar things before.) The CDC has vast experience in dealing with Ebola overseas, and knows how dangerous it is, and yet they chose to leave it to amateurs in the Homeland. If those 2 nurses die, CDC Bob has blood on his hands, and couldn&#039;t care less.

Betsy McCaughey, known for doing her homework, observed (on a news talk show) that the White House statements regarding the new Czar literally said that it was so that the CDC wouldn&#039;t have to be &quot;distracted from their primary mission&quot;, which is to stomp out Ebola IN AFRICA.

I could imagine several reasons why they might be this way, but I think your observations from D&#039;Souza&#039;s work (especially since it quotes Obama&#039;s book) speaks volumes. He refers to Africans as &quot;his people&quot;, and he seeks revenge for Western Colonialism (which also explains his treasonous Middle East policy). I have long observed that his odd behavior is explained by by 4 things, in this order of importance: (1) narcissism (2) socialism (3) anti-colonialism and (4) cronyism. So I guess I knew it all along, but didn&#039;t realize it - it&#039;s #3 this time.

Oddly, people take his pick for &quot;Ebola Czar&quot; seriously too, when it&#039;s obviously bureaucrat-speak for &quot;You want me to do something to stop Ebola in the US? F*** y**!&quot; It&#039;s a response, but the choice is an outright show of contempt for the American People. (Sorry about the bad language, but it loses something if you &quot;translate&quot; it!)

PS: I think of your research on Patient Zero every time they mention him as having lied to get here. To me, it&#039;s even worse that he walked on in here without so much a violating a single rule or law. You really do your homework too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone but a fool knows that when you keep asking &#8220;Why?&#8221; and you get a different unconvincing answer each time, that the speaker is obviously lying to you, and that&#8217;s generally because he knows that the truth would not be good for him. It&#8217;s amazing to me that anybody takes the CDC director at his word &#8211; as though he, himself, actually believes what he is telling you. The &#8220;geniuses&#8221; at Politico are just parroting his lies. Among the other absurd things he has said are that we would be violating the West Africans&#8217; civil rights, that it would stigmatize them, and that it would hurt their economies. If he weren&#8217;t a barking-mad liberal, you&#8217;d ask him &#8220;No, seriously, why not do a travel ban?&#8221; My favorite is his last excuse, because the suggestion that the transport of native Africans to the US is a part of their economy suggests something that became obsolete after the Civil War, IYKWIMAITYD!</p>
<p>We should also notice that the White House hasn&#8217;t backtracked a single thing he has said. Obviously, this stuff is coming straight from Obama, himself.</p>
<p>If we also look at the fact that the CDC did not immediately send a team to TX to handle America&#8217;s 1st Ebola case, and whisk the patient off to one of the govt facilities set up to handle such cases, it becomes clear that the Obama Adminisitration is determined to ALLOW Ebola to come into the country unabated. (They have done similar things before.) The CDC has vast experience in dealing with Ebola overseas, and knows how dangerous it is, and yet they chose to leave it to amateurs in the Homeland. If those 2 nurses die, CDC Bob has blood on his hands, and couldn&#8217;t care less.</p>
<p>Betsy McCaughey, known for doing her homework, observed (on a news talk show) that the White House statements regarding the new Czar literally said that it was so that the CDC wouldn&#8217;t have to be &#8220;distracted from their primary mission&#8221;, which is to stomp out Ebola IN AFRICA.</p>
<p>I could imagine several reasons why they might be this way, but I think your observations from D&#8217;Souza&#8217;s work (especially since it quotes Obama&#8217;s book) speaks volumes. He refers to Africans as &#8220;his people&#8221;, and he seeks revenge for Western Colonialism (which also explains his treasonous Middle East policy). I have long observed that his odd behavior is explained by by 4 things, in this order of importance: (1) narcissism (2) socialism (3) anti-colonialism and (4) cronyism. So I guess I knew it all along, but didn&#8217;t realize it &#8211; it&#8217;s #3 this time.</p>
<p>Oddly, people take his pick for &#8220;Ebola Czar&#8221; seriously too, when it&#8217;s obviously bureaucrat-speak for &#8220;You want me to do something to stop Ebola in the US? F*** y**!&#8221; It&#8217;s a response, but the choice is an outright show of contempt for the American People. (Sorry about the bad language, but it loses something if you &#8220;translate&#8221; it!)</p>
<p>PS: I think of your research on Patient Zero every time they mention him as having lied to get here. To me, it&#8217;s even worse that he walked on in here without so much a violating a single rule or law. You really do your homework too.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;We will only appreciate how evil we’ve been after we’ve suffered the way the rest of the world does. “He thinks of America as one giant, affluent, suburban community. We’re only rich because we’ve plundered everyone else. We must be made to realize …”&lt;/b&gt;

Most of that is true, but America in that sense means the Left. Most of the evil comes from the lEft, and since the Left is part of America, that means America is tainted and responsible as well.

The solution is simple. Wipe out the evil, and the guilt will go away. Don&#039;t wipe it out, as people refuse to fight the Left even now, and guess what happens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>We will only appreciate how evil we’ve been after we’ve suffered the way the rest of the world does. “He thinks of America as one giant, affluent, suburban community. We’re only rich because we’ve plundered everyone else. We must be made to realize …”</b></p>
<p>Most of that is true, but America in that sense means the Left. Most of the evil comes from the lEft, and since the Left is part of America, that means America is tainted and responsible as well.</p>
<p>The solution is simple. Wipe out the evil, and the guilt will go away. Don&#8217;t wipe it out, as people refuse to fight the Left even now, and guess what happens.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lizzy Says:
October 17th, 2014 at 5:44 pm 

&quot;{...} I’ve never considered Obama brilliant, but he’s also not this dumb. The only conclusion one can make is that this is intentional, whether it’s anti-colonialism, the need to maintain his “all immigrants are safe and good” narrative, or because he’s a trans-nationalist who no longer perceives America as a sovereign nation — that taking in and caring for people, regardless of their origin, is a greater responsibility than caring for the “haves”/US citizens.&quot;
= = = = = = =

I ran across a possible scenario of Obama&#039;s mindset in a comment at Patterico:

http://patterico.com/2014/10/16/is-it-unfair-to-criticize-obama-over-ebola/

See comment #181 -- it&#039;s WAAAY long, but there are some jaw-dropping insights.   From the Obama-Commie point of view America has &quot;... been doing everything wrong&quot; from its inception, and it&#039;s time for our &quot;chickens to come home to roost&quot;.   We will only appreciate how evil we&#039;ve been after we&#039;ve suffered the way the rest of the world does.  &quot;He thinks of America as one giant, affluent, suburban community. We’re only rich because we’ve plundered everyone else. We must be made to realize ...&quot;  

So, by bringing the woes of the world to us, (the woes that according to Commie doctrine, WE have caused the rest of the world to suffer) &quot;he’ll have to show us how we’ve been doing everything wrong our entire history by bitterly clinging to our undeserved wealth {and} our military might, ...&quot;  

Once we&#039;ve been humbled, like Winston Smith was, THEN we&#039;ll understand.  THEN, 2+2 will equal 5 (or whatever else it needs to be).  We&#039;ll be healed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lizzy Says:<br />
October 17th, 2014 at 5:44 pm </p>
<p>&#8220;{&#8230;} I’ve never considered Obama brilliant, but he’s also not this dumb. The only conclusion one can make is that this is intentional, whether it’s anti-colonialism, the need to maintain his “all immigrants are safe and good” narrative, or because he’s a trans-nationalist who no longer perceives America as a sovereign nation — that taking in and caring for people, regardless of their origin, is a greater responsibility than caring for the “haves”/US citizens.&#8221;<br />
= = = = = = =</p>
<p>I ran across a possible scenario of Obama&#8217;s mindset in a comment at Patterico:</p>
<p><a href="http://patterico.com/2014/10/16/is-it-unfair-to-criticize-obama-over-ebola/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://patterico.com/2014/10/16/is-it-unfair-to-criticize-obama-over-ebola/</a></p>
<p>See comment #181 &#8212; it&#8217;s WAAAY long, but there are some jaw-dropping insights.   From the Obama-Commie point of view America has &#8220;&#8230; been doing everything wrong&#8221; from its inception, and it&#8217;s time for our &#8220;chickens to come home to roost&#8221;.   We will only appreciate how evil we&#8217;ve been after we&#8217;ve suffered the way the rest of the world does.  &#8220;He thinks of America as one giant, affluent, suburban community. We’re only rich because we’ve plundered everyone else. We must be made to realize &#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>So, by bringing the woes of the world to us, (the woes that according to Commie doctrine, WE have caused the rest of the world to suffer) &#8220;he’ll have to show us how we’ve been doing everything wrong our entire history by bitterly clinging to our undeserved wealth {and} our military might, &#8230;&#8221;  </p>
<p>Once we&#8217;ve been humbled, like Winston Smith was, THEN we&#8217;ll understand.  THEN, 2+2 will equal 5 (or whatever else it needs to be).  We&#8217;ll be healed.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 23:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ann,

I don&#039;t wish to sound hysterical,  but the various alphabet soup international bureaucracies,  including our own bureaucracies are incapable of responding due to the foolish, incompetentence of bureaucracies to operate with efficency under the umbrella of pc.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wish to sound hysterical,  but the various alphabet soup international bureaucracies,  including our own bureaucracies are incapable of responding due to the foolish, incompetentence of bureaucracies to operate with efficency under the umbrella of pc.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You know, Obama is not alone  in this decision not to impose a travel ban. I believe all the international healthcare organizations, most notably the WHO, are against such action. There are many reasons for this, but one of the most important, I think, is that they think of themselves as &quot;citizens of the world,&quot; not of individual countries to which they owe their first loyalty.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, Obama is not alone  in this decision not to impose a travel ban. I believe all the international healthcare organizations, most notably the WHO, are against such action. There are many reasons for this, but one of the most important, I think, is that they think of themselves as &#8220;citizens of the world,&#8221; not of individual countries to which they owe their first loyalty.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;I’ve never considered Obama brilliant, but he’s also not this dumb.&lt;/b&gt;

The goal of evil doesn&#039;t require brilliance or dumbness. The goal of evil can work with either one, which in another way it means ability or IQ is irrelevant to evil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>I’ve never considered Obama brilliant, but he’s also not this dumb.</b></p>
<p>The goal of evil doesn&#8217;t require brilliance or dumbness. The goal of evil can work with either one, which in another way it means ability or IQ is irrelevant to evil.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art&#039;s really angry at what his boss and co workers do to abuse him. But he finds he cannot quit because the promise of a pension and time put in, keeps him leashed to his medical union corrupt like company.

So what results is displacement. Talking about feminists and what not, at least won&#039;t get you fired from your job, if you are anonymous. Which is also why he doesn&#039;t run his own blog, since he wrote before that when he did, he went off talking about his work and home location and the Leftists came for him.

Well, that&#039;s not surprising. Who doesn&#039;t expect the Left to come knocking if you start talking crazy heretical anti dogma? Did the Tea Party expect the IRS? Sooner or later, they would have to.

So the point is, blaming various stuff over there is easier than dealing with problems over here. That&#039;s been the case for humans, regardless of what crutch they say they got in &quot;disabilities&quot;, for awhile now.


A person that cannot change himself, improve his own position, or defeat his personal enemies, cannot be expected to change the world of corruption and feminism. After all, that&#039;s unreasonable.

&lt;b&gt;Mrs Whatsit&lt;/b&gt;

I heard Eastern block countries routinely had various &quot;health checks&quot; to keep certain people out. It was a document printed with the passport, so all documentation had to be handed in. Although it was more detailed than merely the vaccination ones used normally.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art&#8217;s really angry at what his boss and co workers do to abuse him. But he finds he cannot quit because the promise of a pension and time put in, keeps him leashed to his medical union corrupt like company.</p>
<p>So what results is displacement. Talking about feminists and what not, at least won&#8217;t get you fired from your job, if you are anonymous. Which is also why he doesn&#8217;t run his own blog, since he wrote before that when he did, he went off talking about his work and home location and the Leftists came for him.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s not surprising. Who doesn&#8217;t expect the Left to come knocking if you start talking crazy heretical anti dogma? Did the Tea Party expect the IRS? Sooner or later, they would have to.</p>
<p>So the point is, blaming various stuff over there is easier than dealing with problems over here. That&#8217;s been the case for humans, regardless of what crutch they say they got in &#8220;disabilities&#8221;, for awhile now.</p>
<p>A person that cannot change himself, improve his own position, or defeat his personal enemies, cannot be expected to change the world of corruption and feminism. After all, that&#8217;s unreasonable.</p>
<p><b>Mrs Whatsit</b></p>
<p>I heard Eastern block countries routinely had various &#8220;health checks&#8221; to keep certain people out. It was a document printed with the passport, so all documentation had to be handed in. Although it was more detailed than merely the vaccination ones used normally.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So many things wrong with how Obama is handling this... 
It&#039;s perfectly fine to use enhanced pat downs on children and disabled grandparents, but apparently it&#039;s  a bridge to far to institute a travel ban.

We can&#039;t get enforce any law 100% - there are still criminals who get their hands on illegal guns, tax evaders who hide income, addicts who obtain illegal drugs, drivers who exceed posted speed limits, and yet no one says we should banish those laws (OK, maybe Libertarians &#038; the drug laws).

We can protect people from themselves by banning them from purchasing &quot;large&quot; sodas despite the fact that they could just as easily purchase and consume two smaller ones in one sitting, but we can&#039;t protect people from others who would bring a deadly disease to our communities.

I&#039;ve never considered Obama brilliant, but he&#039;s also not this dumb. The only conclusion one can make is that this is intentional, whether it&#039;s anti-colonialism, the need to maintain his &quot;all immigrants are safe and good&quot; narrative, or because he&#039;s a trans-nationalist who no longer perceives America as a sovereign nation - that taking in and caring for people, regardless of their origin, is a greater responsibility than caring for the &quot;haves&quot;/US citizens.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many things wrong with how Obama is handling this&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s perfectly fine to use enhanced pat downs on children and disabled grandparents, but apparently it&#8217;s  a bridge to far to institute a travel ban.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t get enforce any law 100% &#8211; there are still criminals who get their hands on illegal guns, tax evaders who hide income, addicts who obtain illegal drugs, drivers who exceed posted speed limits, and yet no one says we should banish those laws (OK, maybe Libertarians &amp; the drug laws).</p>
<p>We can protect people from themselves by banning them from purchasing &#8220;large&#8221; sodas despite the fact that they could just as easily purchase and consume two smaller ones in one sitting, but we can&#8217;t protect people from others who would bring a deadly disease to our communities.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never considered Obama brilliant, but he&#8217;s also not this dumb. The only conclusion one can make is that this is intentional, whether it&#8217;s anti-colonialism, the need to maintain his &#8220;all immigrants are safe and good&#8221; narrative, or because he&#8217;s a trans-nationalist who no longer perceives America as a sovereign nation &#8211; that taking in and caring for people, regardless of their origin, is a greater responsibility than caring for the &#8220;haves&#8221;/US citizens.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Love the snark of this line: &quot;The days of Ellis and Angel islands screening out diseases effectively disappeared with the jet age.&quot;  I wonder what it was about the jet age that obliterated our ability to check the stamps in people&#039;s passports?  (Is THAT what happened to everyone&#039;s competence?  Who knew it was jets??)  That&#039;s all it would take -- just a riffle through the pages -- to spot and turn back the few foreign nationals -- there can&#039;t be many -- seeking entry to the US who&#039;ve come from or recently visited Ebola-affected countries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the snark of this line: &#8220;The days of Ellis and Angel islands screening out diseases effectively disappeared with the jet age.&#8221;  I wonder what it was about the jet age that obliterated our ability to check the stamps in people&#8217;s passports?  (Is THAT what happened to everyone&#8217;s competence?  Who knew it was jets??)  That&#8217;s all it would take &#8212; just a riffle through the pages &#8212; to spot and turn back the few foreign nationals &#8212; there can&#8217;t be many &#8212; seeking entry to the US who&#8217;ve come from or recently visited Ebola-affected countries.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lea, here&#039;s one example of the &quot;reasoning&quot; I mentioned (scroll down to point 4) from a &quot;senior fellow in global health&quot; who -- just as you suggested -- apparently does not understand that flu and Ebola are two different things and don&#039;t spread in anything like the same way.  

http://www.themonitor.com/opinion/commentary-myths-about-deadly-ebola/article_ab2522c6-530d-11e4-983e-001a4bcf6878.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lea, here&#8217;s one example of the &#8220;reasoning&#8221; I mentioned (scroll down to point 4) from a &#8220;senior fellow in global health&#8221; who &#8212; just as you suggested &#8212; apparently does not understand that flu and Ebola are two different things and don&#8217;t spread in anything like the same way.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.themonitor.com/opinion/commentary-myths-about-deadly-ebola/article_ab2522c6-530d-11e4-983e-001a4bcf6878.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.themonitor.com/opinion/commentary-myths-about-deadly-ebola/article_ab2522c6-530d-11e4-983e-001a4bcf6878.html</a></p>
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