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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/11/the-decline-of-political-rhetorical-style/#comment-838842</link>

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					<description><![CDATA[There are literally concepts and visualizations which are missing from the English language and use, even though the words are there to define such things. They just aren&#039;t organized because nobody uses them together or thinks of them. Language as thought control there.

Normally a pacifist culture shouldn&#039;t have too many words for war, since the concept shouldn&#039;t be massaged or thought about by the populace too much to need that many distinctions and common usages. But in English, there should be concepts derived from hierarchy and social tradition, but they no longer exist to such a degree that people can no longer describe the problem the Left is causing in marriage or social harmony. They can describe the problem&#039;s consequences, but they cannot describe the actual poison or function used to destroy.

The Left&#039;s true power isn&#039;t politics or the law, but mind control. And they have done an amazing job with certain Western civilizations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are literally concepts and visualizations which are missing from the English language and use, even though the words are there to define such things. They just aren&#8217;t organized because nobody uses them together or thinks of them. Language as thought control there.</p>
<p>Normally a pacifist culture shouldn&#8217;t have too many words for war, since the concept shouldn&#8217;t be massaged or thought about by the populace too much to need that many distinctions and common usages. But in English, there should be concepts derived from hierarchy and social tradition, but they no longer exist to such a degree that people can no longer describe the problem the Left is causing in marriage or social harmony. They can describe the problem&#8217;s consequences, but they cannot describe the actual poison or function used to destroy.</p>
<p>The Left&#8217;s true power isn&#8217;t politics or the law, but mind control. And they have done an amazing job with certain Western civilizations.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/11/the-decline-of-political-rhetorical-style/#comment-838840</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The witticism and flexibility of English for formulating exact thoughts have been downgraded by PC or aka EngSoc.

But what replaced it was the kind of pseudo intellectualism found amongst the Brights, Born to Rule DC pols, and the Ruling Class. It&#039;s a language designed specifically to support religious thoughts dogmatic to the Leftist cult.

Translating various thoughts from English to Japanese and vice a versa, it is quite obvious English has been crippled, even though the specificity and vocabulary are far stronger than the Japanese art of words.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The witticism and flexibility of English for formulating exact thoughts have been downgraded by PC or aka EngSoc.</p>
<p>But what replaced it was the kind of pseudo intellectualism found amongst the Brights, Born to Rule DC pols, and the Ruling Class. It&#8217;s a language designed specifically to support religious thoughts dogmatic to the Leftist cult.</p>
<p>Translating various thoughts from English to Japanese and vice a versa, it is quite obvious English has been crippled, even though the specificity and vocabulary are far stronger than the Japanese art of words.</p>
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		By: ELC		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 03:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I started blogging in 2002, and I have freelanced now and then for three local newspapers. (The former means I have written a lot for free; the latter, that I&#039;ve actually been paid to write.) But I have been a bibliophile and voracious reader since childhood.

I have two observations to contribute to the discussion.

First, the most intelligent persons who are the best writers can write plainly and simply so just about anybody can understand them.

Second, writing plainly and simply is awfully hard to do.

Whether these observations are really pertinent or significant... I don&#039;t know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I started blogging in 2002, and I have freelanced now and then for three local newspapers. (The former means I have written a lot for free; the latter, that I&#8217;ve actually been paid to write.) But I have been a bibliophile and voracious reader since childhood.</p>
<p>I have two observations to contribute to the discussion.</p>
<p>First, the most intelligent persons who are the best writers can write plainly and simply so just about anybody can understand them.</p>
<p>Second, writing plainly and simply is awfully hard to do.</p>
<p>Whether these observations are really pertinent or significant&#8230; I don&#8217;t know.</p>
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		By: gpc31		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 01:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Last year I reread &quot;A Tale of Two Cities&quot; for the first time since childhood, and was shocked at how difficult it was to immerse myself in the book -- the syntax seemed to obtrude whereas previously I had been swept along with the plot, rushing downstream.  I chalked it up to google-brain.

This year, forewarned as I was before embarking on &quot;Middlemarch&quot;, I was still awestruck by the immense subtlety and intelligence contained in Eliot&#039;s prose.  I -- we? -- are probably more stupid than the Victorians, certainly more superficial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year I reread &#8220;A Tale of Two Cities&#8221; for the first time since childhood, and was shocked at how difficult it was to immerse myself in the book &#8212; the syntax seemed to obtrude whereas previously I had been swept along with the plot, rushing downstream.  I chalked it up to google-brain.</p>
<p>This year, forewarned as I was before embarking on &#8220;Middlemarch&#8221;, I was still awestruck by the immense subtlety and intelligence contained in Eliot&#8217;s prose.  I &#8212; we? &#8212; are probably more stupid than the Victorians, certainly more superficial.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/11/the-decline-of-political-rhetorical-style/#comment-838115</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Whatever you think of FDR—and the more I’ve learned about him the less I like him—his very often quite sophisticated speeches, rich in vocabulary, ideas, and meaning, were head and shoulders above the kinds of political speeches given today.&lt;/b&gt;

FDR was talking to free citizens. Not merely slaves and wards of the state, as it now exists.

To convince free citizens that they need to rely on the gov in a war or that the gov should even be in a war, takes a different caliber of persuasion than the denizens of DC now a days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Whatever you think of FDR—and the more I’ve learned about him the less I like him—his very often quite sophisticated speeches, rich in vocabulary, ideas, and meaning, were head and shoulders above the kinds of political speeches given today.</b></p>
<p>FDR was talking to free citizens. Not merely slaves and wards of the state, as it now exists.</p>
<p>To convince free citizens that they need to rely on the gov in a war or that the gov should even be in a war, takes a different caliber of persuasion than the denizens of DC now a days.</p>
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		By: Obama Voter		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 02:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama is smart guy.  Got big brain.  Talks to me in his speech- makes me feel smart like him.  Why I vote for him.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is smart guy.  Got big brain.  Talks to me in his speech- makes me feel smart like him.  Why I vote for him.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/11/the-decline-of-political-rhetorical-style/#comment-837930</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Getting back to Presidential speeches, I like Eisenhower&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;farewell address&lt;/a&gt; from 1961.

It&#039;s only 15 minutes long, and it&#039;s worth watching the whole thing.  This speech is best known for his warning about the influence of the military-industrial complex, but of equal or greater importance is the passage immediately following, about the danger of government control of funding for scientific research.  (Global warming, anyone?)

But beyond that, I was struck by how he spoke to the audience as mature, intelligent adults.  He talked about challenges facing the nation and our governing traditions, without resorting to cheap sound bites.  He clearly had respect for the American people, and didn&#039;t talk down to them.  I can&#039;t imagine a modern politician of either party giving a speech like this today.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting back to Presidential speeches, I like Eisenhower&#8217;s <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWiIYW_fBfY" rel="nofollow">farewell address</a> from 1961.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only 15 minutes long, and it&#8217;s worth watching the whole thing.  This speech is best known for his warning about the influence of the military-industrial complex, but of equal or greater importance is the passage immediately following, about the danger of government control of funding for scientific research.  (Global warming, anyone?)</p>
<p>But beyond that, I was struck by how he spoke to the audience as mature, intelligent adults.  He talked about challenges facing the nation and our governing traditions, without resorting to cheap sound bites.  He clearly had respect for the American people, and didn&#8217;t talk down to them.  I can&#8217;t imagine a modern politician of either party giving a speech like this today.</p>
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		By: Charles		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Liz - I&#039;m glad to hear that &quot;let me be clear&quot; bothers other folks too.  However, it is one of his &quot;tells.&quot;  That is you know he is about to tell a big fat lie.

And, no, they don&#039;t diagram sentences in English class any more.  They stopped that decades ago.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz &#8211; I&#8217;m glad to hear that &#8220;let me be clear&#8221; bothers other folks too.  However, it is one of his &#8220;tells.&#8221;  That is you know he is about to tell a big fat lie.</p>
<p>And, no, they don&#8217;t diagram sentences in English class any more.  They stopped that decades ago.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[P.S.–And I have written here before, one major line of attack in Antonio Gramsci and the Left’s “march through the institutions” was the general paring down and dumbing down of K-12 and College curriculums (why do you think Bill Ayers went into the field of teacher education and curriculum formulation?)–as over the decades subjects, approaches, and topics were jettisoned, and replaced with disinformation, useless twaddle, and skepticism about and hatred of our country and its history.  

This was not an accident, but a deliberate plan, carried out under the guise of “progress” and supposedly with the best of intentions, with its goal to create a citizenry that–progressively deprived of the knowledge, thought processes, standards, behaviors, and the analytical tools that past generations were routinely taught–would be much more pliable, more easily duped, and led.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.–And I have written here before, one major line of attack in Antonio Gramsci and the Left’s “march through the institutions” was the general paring down and dumbing down of K-12 and College curriculums (why do you think Bill Ayers went into the field of teacher education and curriculum formulation?)–as over the decades subjects, approaches, and topics were jettisoned, and replaced with disinformation, useless twaddle, and skepticism about and hatred of our country and its history.  </p>
<p>This was not an accident, but a deliberate plan, carried out under the guise of “progress” and supposedly with the best of intentions, with its goal to create a citizenry that–progressively deprived of the knowledge, thought processes, standards, behaviors, and the analytical tools that past generations were routinely taught–would be much more pliable, more easily duped, and led.</p>
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		By: Boricuafudd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 23:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was born in New York but all of my elementary schooling was in Puerto Rico. When I returned to New York, I having yet to complete the 6th Grade I was enrolled in one of New York City&#039;s many bi-lingual schools.  

English became my second language, this was a problem early on, but on the other subjects I soon found out that I was well ahead of the other students. 

As I became more and more proficient in the language, I was shock as how infantile was the language the teacher used in her lessons. The use of slang and general colloquialisms was a changed from the academic language that I was used to in my simple rural school in Puerto Rico.

It appeared to me that the words I was learning using my 1905 World Encyclopedia that my aunt had purchased to assist me in my learning were now obsolete. Things have gotten progressively worse in time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born in New York but all of my elementary schooling was in Puerto Rico. When I returned to New York, I having yet to complete the 6th Grade I was enrolled in one of New York City&#8217;s many bi-lingual schools.  </p>
<p>English became my second language, this was a problem early on, but on the other subjects I soon found out that I was well ahead of the other students. </p>
<p>As I became more and more proficient in the language, I was shock as how infantile was the language the teacher used in her lessons. The use of slang and general colloquialisms was a changed from the academic language that I was used to in my simple rural school in Puerto Rico.</p>
<p>It appeared to me that the words I was learning using my 1905 World Encyclopedia that my aunt had purchased to assist me in my learning were now obsolete. Things have gotten progressively worse in time.</p>
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