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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-838335</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2014 02:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[geran:

I&#039;m not going to write a book for you in a post, just to prove something on which I&#039;ve already written many thousands of words that are available on the blog.

Do your own homework.

But I&#039;ll give you a hint on the homework assignment: do a search for &quot;Duncan,&quot; and &quot;ebola&quot; on the blog. Make sure you read all the posts, and don&#039;t forget to read all of the comments from me in the comments threads, too.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geran:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to write a book for you in a post, just to prove something on which I&#8217;ve already written many thousands of words that are available on the blog.</p>
<p>Do your own homework.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll give you a hint on the homework assignment: do a search for &#8220;Duncan,&#8221; and &#8220;ebola&#8221; on the blog. Make sure you read all the posts, and don&#8217;t forget to read all of the comments from me in the comments threads, too.  </p>
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		By: geran		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-838245</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 19:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sorry Neo, but this post is what I&#039;m commenting on, not some other post you wrote, or think you wrote.  I&#039;m commenting on THIS post where you blame the hospital for the spread of a contagious disease.  

Logic and facts are on MY side here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Neo, but this post is what I&#8217;m commenting on, not some other post you wrote, or think you wrote.  I&#8217;m commenting on THIS post where you blame the hospital for the spread of a contagious disease.  </p>
<p>Logic and facts are on MY side here.</p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-838123</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 12:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The medical establishment is indoctrinated thoroughly with &quot;If you hear hoofbeats, think &#039;horses,&#039; not &#039;zebras.&#039;&quot; Except sometimes, it is zebras!

I have a feeling that &quot;flu&quot; is &quot;horses,&quot; while &quot;Ebola,&quot; even if someone recently flew in from West Africa, is &quot;zebras.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medical establishment is indoctrinated thoroughly with &#8220;If you hear hoofbeats, think &#8216;horses,&#8217; not &#8216;zebras.'&#8221; Except sometimes, it is zebras!</p>
<p>I have a feeling that &#8220;flu&#8221; is &#8220;horses,&#8221; while &#8220;Ebola,&#8221; even if someone recently flew in from West Africa, is &#8220;zebras.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Cornhead		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-838094</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornhead]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 11:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sunday AM. Second TX patient with Ebola.

CNN crew violating quarantine. They should be arrested and made an example.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sunday AM. Second TX patient with Ebola.</p>
<p>CNN crew violating quarantine. They should be arrested and made an example.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-837931</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[geran:

You obviously have not read most of what I&#039;ve written on the subject, or if you have you haven&#039;t understood it, nor do you realize that defending perps is not what I ordinarily do.

Logic and facts are on my side here, and they are what interest me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>geran:</p>
<p>You obviously have not read most of what I&#8217;ve written on the subject, or if you have you haven&#8217;t understood it, nor do you realize that defending perps is not what I ordinarily do.</p>
<p>Logic and facts are on my side here, and they are what interest me.</p>
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		By: geran		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-837913</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[geran]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 00:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Did Duncan bear no responsibility for bringing his contagious disease to another continent, exposing millions of people?  Seriously?

You&#039;re expecting every person in every hospital to know everything?  Seriously?

The perp is always the victim, huh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Duncan bear no responsibility for bringing his contagious disease to another continent, exposing millions of people?  Seriously?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re expecting every person in every hospital to know everything?  Seriously?</p>
<p>The perp is always the victim, huh?</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[br549:

You write, &quot;Until recently, why would any hospital, any doctor think Ebola! in this country?&quot;

I can help you out with that one:

(1) there had been CDC guidelines sent out about ebola prior to the time Duncan came to the hospital

(2) the ebola epidemic in West Africa (especially Sierra Leone and Liberia) was ENORMOUS news, including the fact (and controversy over that fact) that American health care workers with ebola had been sent back to the US and survived

(3) he had symptoms of ebola

(4) most importantly, the question about recent travel (which he was asked and answered correctly) is a standard one to screen for the possibility of infectious diseases from other countries and continents, not just ebola.  They absolutely should have red-flagged him for something, and something possibly quite contagious (including perhaps other hemorrhagic diseases), on the basis of that and his symptoms alone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>br549:</p>
<p>You write, &#8220;Until recently, why would any hospital, any doctor think Ebola! in this country?&#8221;</p>
<p>I can help you out with that one:</p>
<p>(1) there had been CDC guidelines sent out about ebola prior to the time Duncan came to the hospital</p>
<p>(2) the ebola epidemic in West Africa (especially Sierra Leone and Liberia) was ENORMOUS news, including the fact (and controversy over that fact) that American health care workers with ebola had been sent back to the US and survived</p>
<p>(3) he had symptoms of ebola</p>
<p>(4) most importantly, the question about recent travel (which he was asked and answered correctly) is a standard one to screen for the possibility of infectious diseases from other countries and continents, not just ebola.  They absolutely should have red-flagged him for something, and something possibly quite contagious (including perhaps other hemorrhagic diseases), on the basis of that and his symptoms alone.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-837767</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 17:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the very start, political pressure from the Obama administration, and its incompetent appointees–Obama, for instance, recently broadcasting a supposedly authoritative and reassuring message to West Africans that “Ebola is very hard to contract,” telling them that “they’ll never catch Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus,” while, at the same time, the CDC was warning U.S. visitors to the area to “avoid public transportation”--screwed up their response to this whole incident.

Compounding the problem and making things far worse is when race hustlers like Jesse Jackson inject themselves into this situation, and stir up and chum the waters for their own benefit–and it looks like maybe the family of patient zero have caught on, and are now talking about how “race and prejudice” reduced his level of care, and are thinking of suing.   

Such intensifiers will make it almost impossible to conduct a fair and dispassionate inquiry into what actually happened, given all the additional pressure that Jackson and his ilk have added to this event. And this additional pressure will inevitably tend to skew the results of any investigation more than they would otherwise have been, given things like the hospital’s normal CYA to avoid lawsuits.   

As with many other events that have taken place during the Obama administration, once politics and/or race get into the mix, we’ll probably never know the truth of what really happened.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the very start, political pressure from the Obama administration, and its incompetent appointees–Obama, for instance, recently broadcasting a supposedly authoritative and reassuring message to West Africans that “Ebola is very hard to contract,” telling them that “they’ll never catch Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus,” while, at the same time, the CDC was warning U.S. visitors to the area to “avoid public transportation”&#8211;screwed up their response to this whole incident.</p>
<p>Compounding the problem and making things far worse is when race hustlers like Jesse Jackson inject themselves into this situation, and stir up and chum the waters for their own benefit–and it looks like maybe the family of patient zero have caught on, and are now talking about how “race and prejudice” reduced his level of care, and are thinking of suing.   </p>
<p>Such intensifiers will make it almost impossible to conduct a fair and dispassionate inquiry into what actually happened, given all the additional pressure that Jackson and his ilk have added to this event. And this additional pressure will inevitably tend to skew the results of any investigation more than they would otherwise have been, given things like the hospital’s normal CYA to avoid lawsuits.   </p>
<p>As with many other events that have taken place during the Obama administration, once politics and/or race get into the mix, we’ll probably never know the truth of what really happened.</p>
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		By: jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Imagine you are Duncan and you fear you may have ebola and may spread it to your family and loved ones so you want to go to the hospital and isolate yourself.  you go to the hospital and they tell you don&#039;t have it.  You return to the apartment and, relieved that you do not have it, interact with your family and loved ones, including school aged children.  Your family and loved ones go out into the community because you checked with the hospital and they confirmed that you did not have ebola so you know it is safe to do so.  Your children go to school and interact with other children because it is safe to do so, you know it is safe because the doctor told you so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine you are Duncan and you fear you may have ebola and may spread it to your family and loved ones so you want to go to the hospital and isolate yourself.  you go to the hospital and they tell you don&#8217;t have it.  You return to the apartment and, relieved that you do not have it, interact with your family and loved ones, including school aged children.  Your family and loved ones go out into the community because you checked with the hospital and they confirmed that you did not have ebola so you know it is safe to do so.  Your children go to school and interact with other children because it is safe to do so, you know it is safe because the doctor told you so.</p>
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		By: Liz		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/10/on-the-matter-of-duncans-temperature-on-his-initial-er-visit/#comment-837763</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Oct 2014 16:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At some point in time, the travel issue will not be important.  

Are there enough public health workers who can be involved in the contact tracking?  

Will those people who are part of that list follow directions, take their temps and stay isolated?

Per news reports, the woman who was connected to &quot;patient zero&quot; wanted to leave the apartment to shop and the sheriff who was in the apartment was not part of the contact tracking.

At some point in time, there will be an Ebola patient who was not in West Africa and was not knowingly in contact with someone who traveled.

What&#039;s going to happen when the flu season arrives and people start worrying about fevers?  Are the hospitals going to treat every fever as an Ebola event?

Healthcare and public health costs are going to increase.  BTW, I am defining public health costs = costs associated with identifying and tracking contacts, dealing with transportation of patients and cleanup of infection sites.  These costs will be greater than the costs of direct patient care.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At some point in time, the travel issue will not be important.  </p>
<p>Are there enough public health workers who can be involved in the contact tracking?  </p>
<p>Will those people who are part of that list follow directions, take their temps and stay isolated?</p>
<p>Per news reports, the woman who was connected to &#8220;patient zero&#8221; wanted to leave the apartment to shop and the sheriff who was in the apartment was not part of the contact tracking.</p>
<p>At some point in time, there will be an Ebola patient who was not in West Africa and was not knowingly in contact with someone who traveled.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s going to happen when the flu season arrives and people start worrying about fevers?  Are the hospitals going to treat every fever as an Ebola event?</p>
<p>Healthcare and public health costs are going to increase.  BTW, I am defining public health costs = costs associated with identifying and tracking contacts, dealing with transportation of patients and cleanup of infection sites.  These costs will be greater than the costs of direct patient care.</p>
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