Comments on: Followup: yes, the fever criterion for ebola definitely needs revising downward https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/ A blog about political change, among other things Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:02:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: health business https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-872552 Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:02:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-872552 Hi my loved one! I want to say that this article is awesome, nice written and include almost all significant infos.
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]]> By: blert https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-837340 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:49:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-837340 The more I think about lipids in the diet…

Ebola may require a lipid or two that cannot be crafted within our bodies — and have to be from our diet.

If so, restricting such an intake may put enough restraint on ebola’s exponential reproduction to give enough grace to survive it.

THIS may be the magic variable as to why even 30% of its victims survive at all.

This angle needs immediate laboratory research — as it’s something that can be effected without delay — and without further test protocols.

A change in ones diet has to be pretty harmless.

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1) Compared to all other primates, humanity is sky high in its lipid intake.

2) Humanity is sky high with morbidity from ebola.

Is THAT the connection?

Inquiring minds want to know.

]]> By: blert https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-837291 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:26:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-837291 I’m coming around to the view that our high lipid diets make humans subject to the MOST rapid growth of ebola.

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If there is one unifying theme of west Africans, nurses and doctors… it’s that they are not heavy drinkers.

Since booze is totally out of favor with modern medicine (in contrast with the 19th Century) I can’t imagine any lab testing ebola’s resistance to alcohol in the blood stream.

It may prove out that ethanol is enough of a surfactant to screw up the lipid sheath that turns ebola into a stealth virus.

Indeed, ebola is apparently VERY sensitive to ‘soaping’ outside the body.

Some in vitro testing should be in order.

]]> By: Illuminati https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-837250 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 15:49:34 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-837250 For me this is the money quote in the articles mf recommended.

“Viral transmission can also occur when virus-containing respiratory droplets travel from the respiratory tract of an infected person to mucosal surfaces of another person. Because these droplets are larger, they cannot travel long distances as do aerosols, and are considered a form of contact transmission. Ebola virus can certainly be transmitted from person to person by droplets.”

In other words when Ebola is transmitted by droplets from the respiratory tract of an Ebola patient to a caregiver or bystander it is defined as contact. Problem solved. Ebola is only transmitted by contact.

]]> By: mf https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-837193 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:48:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-837193 Various articles and podcasts on the ebola virus. Some here might find them useful:

http://www.virology.ws/ebolavirus/

]]> By: blert https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-837153 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 09:46:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-837153 It’s just hit me: fruit bats HAVE to have an extremely low lipid diet.

It’s an angle that needs to be played/ researched.

Such a constrained diet (throttle) may make it impossible for ebola to create enough injury to kill.

A low lipid diet should be easy to craft.

Unlike most wildlife, humans have a diet pretty rich in lipids… to say the least.

]]> By: Don Carlos https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-837058 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 04:36:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-837058 Neo-
a virion is one virus particle. It depends on many factors how many virions it takes to establish an infection. That is, how many troopers it takes to establish and occupy a beachhead, as opposed to being killed and repelled by defenders, while other soldiers are brought in (by viral multiplication, but I stretch the analogy).
Can only be quantified in a lab, but clearly one’s risk is less if one makes skin-skin contact and then soaps and Cloroxes, as opposed to ingesting or otherwise internally taking a viral dose, when one cannot follow with either.
Short answer to your question, though, is YES

]]> By: neo-neocon https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-836956 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:41:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-836956 Don Carlos:

I’m neither a virologist nor a doc (stupid or otherwise), but wouldn’t the infectiousness start pretty soon after the virus enters the person, but be almost zero at that point? And wouldn’t it increase exponentially over time? Something more or less like this?

]]> By: Don Carlos https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-836955 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:39:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-836955 blert
most viruses lower white blood cell counts, but not many are as frequently and speedily fatal as ebola. Ebola attacks the endothelium, the inner lining of blood vessels, thus eye redness and bleeding at many sites…it destroys your plumbing, with so many leaks.

]]> By: Ymarsakar https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/09/followup-yes-the-fever-criterion-for-ebola-definitely-needs-revising-downward/#comment-836949 Fri, 10 Oct 2014 00:14:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/?p=43321#comment-836949 Suicide viral bombers. Gotta love em. Hussein O does.

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