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		By: OBloodyHell, 12033934th Wonder of the World		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will note -- and I&#039;m not happy to be right, but I DID say it in 2007: 

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;b&gt;&quot;If that son of a bitch gets elected, the people will learn what it means to have a quivering mound of incompetence like Jimmy Carter in the office.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m on public record with that statement. Probably here. :-S]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will note &#8212; and I&#8217;m not happy to be right, but I DID say it in 2007: </p>
<blockquote><p><b>&#8220;If that son of a bitch gets elected, the people will learn what it means to have a quivering mound of incompetence like Jimmy Carter in the office.&#8221;</b></p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m on public record with that statement. Probably here. :-S</p>
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		By: OBloodyHell, 12033934th Wonder of the World		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/when-obama-loses-piers-morgan/#comment-835011</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;So weak that these Jihadist thugs think they can behead American citizens with impunity in glossy snuff movies.&lt;/i&gt;

Whaddya mean, Piers, you chowderhead? As long as Teh One is in power, THEY CAN. 

The only hope is to get a Republican PotUS the next time through. They&#039;ll probably figure out the same thing that Iran figured out in 1980.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>So weak that these Jihadist thugs think they can behead American citizens with impunity in glossy snuff movies.</i></p>
<p>Whaddya mean, Piers, you chowderhead? As long as Teh One is in power, THEY CAN. </p>
<p>The only hope is to get a Republican PotUS the next time through. They&#8217;ll probably figure out the same thing that Iran figured out in 1980.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Oct 2014 02:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m still partial to the self-regard explanation: the left see themselves as enlightened. The most devastating thing to them is when other cognoscenti (e.g. Europeans) start mocking them.

Foreign policy is the left&#039;s downfall, because they cannot control opinion in other countries.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m still partial to the self-regard explanation: the left see themselves as enlightened. The most devastating thing to them is when other cognoscenti (e.g. Europeans) start mocking them.</p>
<p>Foreign policy is the left&#8217;s downfall, because they cannot control opinion in other countries.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 17:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr Says: 

&#062;&#062; the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals 

Well, there&#039;s your problem.   The 9th Circuit is nothing but judicial activism in pursuit of cultural Marxism.  The SCOTUS overrules them more than any other court, and with good reason.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr Says: </p>
<p>&gt;&gt; the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals </p>
<p>Well, there&#8217;s your problem.   The 9th Circuit is nothing but judicial activism in pursuit of cultural Marxism.  The SCOTUS overrules them more than any other court, and with good reason.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 17:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 2009, a group of Mexican students marched and waved a Mexican flag around the Live Oak campus in front of all the school.

 

Some non-Hispanic students then raised the American flag on a tree to show their American patriotism. The Mexican group found this offensive, and then the two groups exchanged profanity-laced threats. 

 

To fix the ‘problem’, the principal issued an order banning students from wearing Stars and Stripes shirts. If a student was caught in violation of the crime of wearing the American flag they would either have to turn them inside-out or go home. The incident garnered national attention as many expressed outrage that students were barred from wearing patriotic clothing.

In the original ruling, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decided that past problems at the school gave officials sufficient and justifiable reasons for the order. In its opinion, the court said that schools in general have wide latitude in curbing certain civil rights to ensure campus safety.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2009, a group of Mexican students marched and waved a Mexican flag around the Live Oak campus in front of all the school.</p>
<p>Some non-Hispanic students then raised the American flag on a tree to show their American patriotism. The Mexican group found this offensive, and then the two groups exchanged profanity-laced threats. </p>
<p>To fix the ‘problem’, the principal issued an order banning students from wearing Stars and Stripes shirts. If a student was caught in violation of the crime of wearing the American flag they would either have to turn them inside-out or go home. The incident garnered national attention as many expressed outrage that students were barred from wearing patriotic clothing.</p>
<p>In the original ruling, a three-judge panel of the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decided that past problems at the school gave officials sufficient and justifiable reasons for the order. In its opinion, the court said that schools in general have wide latitude in curbing certain civil rights to ensure campus safety.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;Two of the people who spoke to me are down on Hillary, too, . . .
They are still liberal Democrats, however. But this is all quite recent for them. (Neo @5:49 above)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I suggest that there are two parts to this.  The first is to call into question that the liberal left is always right (in both the factual and the moral sense); this is the initial crack in their &quot;political dyke.&quot;  The second part is that they begin to accept the fact that opponents of the political left aren&#039;t evil, stupid, knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers just because they oppose the political left.  

The problem as I see it, is that these two parts don&#039;t depend on one another.  One can take step one but never reach step two and both must occur to begin to catalyze any kind of meaningful change in one&#039;s belief system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote cite=""><p>Two of the people who spoke to me are down on Hillary, too, . . .<br />
They are still liberal Democrats, however. But this is all quite recent for them. (Neo @5:49 above)</p></blockquote>
<p>I suggest that there are two parts to this.  The first is to call into question that the liberal left is always right (in both the factual and the moral sense); this is the initial crack in their &#8220;political dyke.&#8221;  The second part is that they begin to accept the fact that opponents of the political left aren&#8217;t evil, stupid, knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers just because they oppose the political left.  </p>
<p>The problem as I see it, is that these two parts don&#8217;t depend on one another.  One can take step one but never reach step two and both must occur to begin to catalyze any kind of meaningful change in one&#8217;s belief system.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[colagirl, Carmen

I estimate that the Leftist alliance has deployed no more than 11% of their total power since the percentages started increasing exponentially in 2007.

Biowarfare might push it up to 15% though. When 50% hits, the war will either be over or people will try to fight and then lose because they lost too much time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>colagirl, Carmen</p>
<p>I estimate that the Leftist alliance has deployed no more than 11% of their total power since the percentages started increasing exponentially in 2007.</p>
<p>Biowarfare might push it up to 15% though. When 50% hits, the war will either be over or people will try to fight and then lose because they lost too much time.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[p.s.  If Ebola does really get out of control, how long will it be until a major politician or media figure suggests this is a Republican plot to sway the election?  

I suggest less than a week.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s.  If Ebola does really get out of control, how long will it be until a major politician or media figure suggests this is a Republican plot to sway the election?  </p>
<p>I suggest less than a week.</p>
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		By: ConceptJunkie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have to wonder if Ebola is going to turn out to the &quot;October Surprise&quot; that works in favor of the Republicans in just 4 months.  (Of course, it would help if the Republicans themselves were in favor of the Republicans, but that may be too much to ask.  That Party is run by idiots.)

But there are a couple of caveats to this:

1.  It&#039;s not really a surprise to anyone with a brain.

2.  I always felt the &quot;October Surprise&quot; meme implied something done by political enemies for political reasons, and that wouldn&#039;t apply here.

3.  I&#039;d rather not see Ebola (or Enterovirus 68) become so big in the U.S. that it actually helps sway an election, despite the fact that the Democrats brought this on themselves, but that means real people are suffering and dying needlessly.  I don&#039;t care what the politic calculus is... I don&#039;t want to see that.

4.  But if it does, hopefully it will sway some people to consider common sense over politics, which is always a good thing.  Obama rode a wave of politics over common sense, and to see it begin to crumble is to see this country and society start to step back from the abyss.  It would help if there were an opposition party worth supporting, but hopefully that will come in time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to wonder if Ebola is going to turn out to the &#8220;October Surprise&#8221; that works in favor of the Republicans in just 4 months.  (Of course, it would help if the Republicans themselves were in favor of the Republicans, but that may be too much to ask.  That Party is run by idiots.)</p>
<p>But there are a couple of caveats to this:</p>
<p>1.  It&#8217;s not really a surprise to anyone with a brain.</p>
<p>2.  I always felt the &#8220;October Surprise&#8221; meme implied something done by political enemies for political reasons, and that wouldn&#8217;t apply here.</p>
<p>3.  I&#8217;d rather not see Ebola (or Enterovirus 68) become so big in the U.S. that it actually helps sway an election, despite the fact that the Democrats brought this on themselves, but that means real people are suffering and dying needlessly.  I don&#8217;t care what the politic calculus is&#8230; I don&#8217;t want to see that.</p>
<p>4.  But if it does, hopefully it will sway some people to consider common sense over politics, which is always a good thing.  Obama rode a wave of politics over common sense, and to see it begin to crumble is to see this country and society start to step back from the abyss.  It would help if there were an opposition party worth supporting, but hopefully that will come in time.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
this latter type of insecurity was one which afflicted rather Liberal rulers than Russian people; for Liberal rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political conservative political systems.

For this reason they have always feared penetration, feared direct contact between the conservative world and their own, feared what would happen if Liberals learned truth about world or if conservatives learned truth about world within. 

&lt;b&gt;They have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.&lt;/b&gt;

                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Liberals will, as a rule, work toward destruction of all forms of personal independence, economic, political or moral. Their system can handle only individuals who have been brought into complete dependence on higher power. Thus, persons who are financially independent--such as individual businessmen, estate owners, successful farmers, artisans and all those who exercise local leadership or have local prestige, such as popular local clergymen or political figures, are anathema&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

In general, all Liberal efforts on unofficial plane will be negative and destructive in character, designed to tear down sources of strength beyond reach of Liberal control. This is only in line with basic Liberal instinct that there can be no compromise with rival power and that constructive work can start only when Liberal power is doming But behind all this will be applied insistent, unceasing pressure for penetration and command of key positions in administration and especially in police apparatus of the country.

                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

&lt;b&gt;In summary, we have here a political force committed fanatically to the belief that with US there can be no permanent modus vivendi that it is desirable and necessary that the internal harmony of our society be disrupted, our traditional way of life be destroyed, the international authority of our state be broken, if Liberal power is to be secure.
.....
In addition, it has an elaborate and far flung apparatus for exertion of its influence, an apparatus of amazing flexibility and versatility, managed by people whose experience and skill in underground methods are presumably without parallel in history.
.....
It is seemingly inaccessible to considerations of reality in its basic reactions. For it, the vast fund of objective fact about human society is not, as with us, the measure against which outlook is constantly being tested and re-formed, but a grab bag from which individual items are selected arbitrarily and tendenciously to bolster an outlook already preconceived. This is admittedly not a pleasant picture. Problem of how to cope with this force in [is] undoubtedly greatest task our country has ever faced and probably greatest it will ever have to face. &lt;/b&gt;

It should be approached with same thoroughness and care as solution of major strategic problem in war, and if necessary, with no smaller outlay in planning effort. I cannot attempt to suggest all answers here. But I would like to record my conviction that problem is within our power to solve--and that without recourse to any general military conflict..

                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;Liberal powerm is neither schematic nor adventunstic. It does not work by fixed plans. It does not take unnecessary risks. Impervious to logic of reason, and it is highly sensitive to logic of force. For this reason it can easily withdraw--and usually does when strong resistance is encountered at any point. Thus, if the adversary has sufficient force and makes clear his readiness to use it, he rarely has to do so. If situations are properly handled there need be no prestige-engaging showdowns.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

Our first step must be to apprehend, and recognize for what it is, the nature of the movement with which we are dealing. We must study it with same courage, detachment, objectivity, and same determination not to be emotionally provoked or unseated by it, with which doctor studies unruly and unreasonable individual.
&lt;/blockquote&gt; - written by G. K. (tweaked by artfldgr)

there is more... 
there is always more..]]></description>
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this latter type of insecurity was one which afflicted rather Liberal rulers than Russian people; for Liberal rulers have invariably sensed that their rule was relatively archaic in form fragile and artificial in its psychological foundation, unable to stand comparison or contact with political conservative political systems.</p>
<p>For this reason they have always feared penetration, feared direct contact between the conservative world and their own, feared what would happen if Liberals learned truth about world or if conservatives learned truth about world within. </p>
<p><b>They have learned to seek security only in patient but deadly struggle for total destruction of rival power, never in compacts and compromises with it.</b></p>
<p>                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-</p>
<p><b><i>Liberals will, as a rule, work toward destruction of all forms of personal independence, economic, political or moral. Their system can handle only individuals who have been brought into complete dependence on higher power. Thus, persons who are financially independent&#8211;such as individual businessmen, estate owners, successful farmers, artisans and all those who exercise local leadership or have local prestige, such as popular local clergymen or political figures, are anathema</i></b></p>
<p>                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-</p>
<p>In general, all Liberal efforts on unofficial plane will be negative and destructive in character, designed to tear down sources of strength beyond reach of Liberal control. This is only in line with basic Liberal instinct that there can be no compromise with rival power and that constructive work can start only when Liberal power is doming But behind all this will be applied insistent, unceasing pressure for penetration and command of key positions in administration and especially in police apparatus of the country.</p>
<p>                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-</p>
<p><b>In summary, we have here a political force committed fanatically to the belief that with US there can be no permanent modus vivendi that it is desirable and necessary that the internal harmony of our society be disrupted, our traditional way of life be destroyed, the international authority of our state be broken, if Liberal power is to be secure.<br />
&#8230;..<br />
In addition, it has an elaborate and far flung apparatus for exertion of its influence, an apparatus of amazing flexibility and versatility, managed by people whose experience and skill in underground methods are presumably without parallel in history.<br />
&#8230;..<br />
It is seemingly inaccessible to considerations of reality in its basic reactions. For it, the vast fund of objective fact about human society is not, as with us, the measure against which outlook is constantly being tested and re-formed, but a grab bag from which individual items are selected arbitrarily and tendenciously to bolster an outlook already preconceived. This is admittedly not a pleasant picture. Problem of how to cope with this force in [is] undoubtedly greatest task our country has ever faced and probably greatest it will ever have to face. </b></p>
<p>It should be approached with same thoroughness and care as solution of major strategic problem in war, and if necessary, with no smaller outlay in planning effort. I cannot attempt to suggest all answers here. But I would like to record my conviction that problem is within our power to solve&#8211;and that without recourse to any general military conflict..</p>
<p>                                         -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-</p>
<p><b><i>Liberal powerm is neither schematic nor adventunstic. It does not work by fixed plans. It does not take unnecessary risks. Impervious to logic of reason, and it is highly sensitive to logic of force. For this reason it can easily withdraw&#8211;and usually does when strong resistance is encountered at any point. Thus, if the adversary has sufficient force and makes clear his readiness to use it, he rarely has to do so. If situations are properly handled there need be no prestige-engaging showdowns.</i></b></p>
<p>Our first step must be to apprehend, and recognize for what it is, the nature of the movement with which we are dealing. We must study it with same courage, detachment, objectivity, and same determination not to be emotionally provoked or unseated by it, with which doctor studies unruly and unreasonable individual.
</p></blockquote>
<p> &#8211; written by G. K. (tweaked by artfldgr)</p>
<p>there is more&#8230;<br />
there is always more..</p>
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