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		By: OBloodyHell, 12033934th Wonder of the World		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-835013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OBloodyHell, 12033934th Wonder of the World]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 10:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I lost all of my burgeoning respect for Tyson when he wasted time on Cosmos supporting AGW. That, right there, marked him as a brilliant individual who could not be trusted as far as you can spit upwind in a hurricane to place Truth in front of The Liberal Agenda, just as with Paul Krugman and Noam Chompsky.

Tyson, Krugman, and Chompsky -- A troika of liberal front men claiming to be scientists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost all of my burgeoning respect for Tyson when he wasted time on Cosmos supporting AGW. That, right there, marked him as a brilliant individual who could not be trusted as far as you can spit upwind in a hurricane to place Truth in front of The Liberal Agenda, just as with Paul Krugman and Noam Chompsky.</p>
<p>Tyson, Krugman, and Chompsky &#8212; A troika of liberal front men claiming to be scientists.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834459</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 23:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s another case of a person, DC, thinking they know more than me and who think they&#039;re better than me, while predicting my thoughts before I even have them.

They end up wrong, not because I say so, the world said so. For a Doctor Class, that&#039;s crushing.

http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/hfcs-sugar-diabetics-and-human-microbiome/

The whole point of Doctor Class authority level is to be right backed by the might of the world. I wouldn&#039;t want to be in a situation where my credentials and awards came from the world. Given the state of the world.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another case of a person, DC, thinking they know more than me and who think they&#8217;re better than me, while predicting my thoughts before I even have them.</p>
<p>They end up wrong, not because I say so, the world said so. For a Doctor Class, that&#8217;s crushing.</p>
<p><a href="http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/hfcs-sugar-diabetics-and-human-microbiome/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ymarsakar.wordpress.com/2014/10/03/hfcs-sugar-diabetics-and-human-microbiome/</a></p>
<p>The whole point of Doctor Class authority level is to be right backed by the might of the world. I wouldn&#8217;t want to be in a situation where my credentials and awards came from the world. Given the state of the world.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834411</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 21:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Active collaboration now, not active collaboration with the Nazis.&quot; 

“Pan is a collaborator,(and would have been) a Nazi supporter and a Jewish agent sniffer &lt;b&gt;back when the Nazis needed informants&lt;/b&gt; to collect Jews” 

There&#039;s no, &quot;would have been&quot; there, nor is there even the implication of such. Instead of clarifying your intent, you insisted and deflected. Which made it a patently false accusation, not an attempt out of &#039;desperation&#039;. How lame. 

It&#039;s pettiness to attack the motivations of someone who initially stated that they simply couldn&#039;t buy that accusation. To twice double down on it makes you the one acting desperately. 

I&#039;ve admitted to being wrong many times as neo herself can attest. I can&#039;t recall you having done so even once. 

Nor have I &#039;pressured you&#039;, we&#039;ve strongly disagreed exactly once before and, I dropped it when I realized you simply had to be right. 

Nor is my family &#039;filled with democrats&#039;. My father and daughter are the only ones and I don&#039;t even know if my daughter is a registered democrat. And accusing me of intentionally &#039;wanting&#039; to be offended is nonsense and an indication of a disproportionate emotional response. 

I can&#039;t ever recall saying that you&#039;re not as special as you think you are but regardless, this response proves that to be the case. Only the insecure respond disproportionately. And I do understand that none of us can &#039;fix&#039; our families or any other human being, do you? Evidently not or you wouldn&#039;t be advising me that I must do so before I dare to disagree with a false accusation you&#039;ve made. 

Actions have consequences and when a public figure in government repeatedly behaves dishonorably and shows no remorse, I as a citizen have a perfect right to hold them in contempt. That you hold democrats in general in contempt and then reprimand me for doing so with a prominent one is hypocrisy writ large.

Just to set the record straight, my conversion started in 1992 and closely paralleled neo&#039;s, which I have mentioned more than once. Nor was I &lt;i&gt;ever&lt;/i&gt; fully on board with the &quot;Democrat slave plantation setup&quot; in fact, I&#039;ve &lt;i&gt;never&lt;/i&gt; voted for a democrat in a Presidential election, nor even in a Congressional election. Prior to 1992 I considered myself an independent-liberal in the Sen. &#039;scoop&#039; Jackson, Harry Truman mold. And that&#039;s the honest truth.

&quot;When the debate is lost, the loser resorts to slander&quot; Socrates]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Active collaboration now, not active collaboration with the Nazis.&#8221; </p>
<p>“Pan is a collaborator,(and would have been) a Nazi supporter and a Jewish agent sniffer <b>back when the Nazis needed informants</b> to collect Jews” </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no, &#8220;would have been&#8221; there, nor is there even the implication of such. Instead of clarifying your intent, you insisted and deflected. Which made it a patently false accusation, not an attempt out of &#8216;desperation&#8217;. How lame. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s pettiness to attack the motivations of someone who initially stated that they simply couldn&#8217;t buy that accusation. To twice double down on it makes you the one acting desperately. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve admitted to being wrong many times as neo herself can attest. I can&#8217;t recall you having done so even once. </p>
<p>Nor have I &#8216;pressured you&#8217;, we&#8217;ve strongly disagreed exactly once before and, I dropped it when I realized you simply had to be right. </p>
<p>Nor is my family &#8216;filled with democrats&#8217;. My father and daughter are the only ones and I don&#8217;t even know if my daughter is a registered democrat. And accusing me of intentionally &#8216;wanting&#8217; to be offended is nonsense and an indication of a disproportionate emotional response. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t ever recall saying that you&#8217;re not as special as you think you are but regardless, this response proves that to be the case. Only the insecure respond disproportionately. And I do understand that none of us can &#8216;fix&#8217; our families or any other human being, do you? Evidently not or you wouldn&#8217;t be advising me that I must do so before I dare to disagree with a false accusation you&#8217;ve made. </p>
<p>Actions have consequences and when a public figure in government repeatedly behaves dishonorably and shows no remorse, I as a citizen have a perfect right to hold them in contempt. That you hold democrats in general in contempt and then reprimand me for doing so with a prominent one is hypocrisy writ large.</p>
<p>Just to set the record straight, my conversion started in 1992 and closely paralleled neo&#8217;s, which I have mentioned more than once. Nor was I <i>ever</i> fully on board with the &#8220;Democrat slave plantation setup&#8221; in fact, I&#8217;ve <i>never</i> voted for a democrat in a Presidential election, nor even in a Congressional election. Prior to 1992 I considered myself an independent-liberal in the Sen. &#8216;scoop&#8217; Jackson, Harry Truman mold. And that&#8217;s the honest truth.</p>
<p>&#8220;When the debate is lost, the loser resorts to slander&#8221; Socrates</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834383</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt; And I hold him in contempt&lt;/b&gt;

Who are you to hold anyone in contempt. You were full on board with this Democrat slave plantation setup until recently. When was your conversion 2008? 2004?

What&#039;s going to wash the guilt off your hands then. Not your moral high horse on the internet, that&#039;s for sure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b> And I hold him in contempt</b></p>
<p>Who are you to hold anyone in contempt. You were full on board with this Democrat slave plantation setup until recently. When was your conversion 2008? 2004?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s going to wash the guilt off your hands then. Not your moral high horse on the internet, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834381</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:44:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;It’s the larger man and a sign of character when we can admit to having been wrong and having made an unjust accusation.&lt;/b&gt;

Oh, is that right?

So when are you going to admit to having been wrong in the past when you decided it was time to pressure me for sayings true things about Democrats, that you wanted to intentionally be offended by because your family is full of Democrats. I had to dig through your blog to discover this little nugget you were hiding around behind your motivation.

You also said before that I&#039;m not as special as I think I am. How do you know what I think, am I living with your family now? You think you know, but won&#039;t admit when you&#039;re wrong. I responded that until you fix your family, which powers most of your emotions here, you aren&#039;t in a position to tell me what&#039;s wrong with me. You know more about your family of Democrats and Hussein O supporters than you know about me.

Do you understand the difference?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>It’s the larger man and a sign of character when we can admit to having been wrong and having made an unjust accusation.</b></p>
<p>Oh, is that right?</p>
<p>So when are you going to admit to having been wrong in the past when you decided it was time to pressure me for sayings true things about Democrats, that you wanted to intentionally be offended by because your family is full of Democrats. I had to dig through your blog to discover this little nugget you were hiding around behind your motivation.</p>
<p>You also said before that I&#8217;m not as special as I think I am. How do you know what I think, am I living with your family now? You think you know, but won&#8217;t admit when you&#8217;re wrong. I responded that until you fix your family, which powers most of your emotions here, you aren&#8217;t in a position to tell me what&#8217;s wrong with me. You know more about your family of Democrats and Hussein O supporters than you know about me.</p>
<p>Do you understand the difference?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834379</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 19:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;By any measure that is an accusation of active collaboration. A patently false accusation when applied to a four year old.&lt;/b&gt;

Active collaboration now, not active collaboration with the Nazis. Merely a comparison. Was that not clear to you, when you were digging around for something to disagree with?

You really are desperate for a &quot;patently false accusation&quot; these days.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>By any measure that is an accusation of active collaboration. A patently false accusation when applied to a four year old.</b></p>
<p>Active collaboration now, not active collaboration with the Nazis. Merely a comparison. Was that not clear to you, when you were digging around for something to disagree with?</p>
<p>You really are desperate for a &#8220;patently false accusation&#8221; these days.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834283</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 16:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Pan is a collaborator, a Nazi supporter and a Jewish agent sniffer back when the Nazis needed informants to collect Jews&quot; Ymarsakar 

By any measure that is an accusation of active collaboration. A patently false accusation when applied to a four year old. 

&quot;I hold him in contempt but can’t go along with the Nazi supporter label.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;Because that would be unfair. As opposed to what they are doing in this country, this Regime, right.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

No because that is a patently false accusation. And I hold him in contempt specifically because of his moral cowardice, collaboration in the Benghazi cover-up and what he is actively doing in this country. 

You have a problem admitting when you&#039;re wrong don&#039;t you, Ymarsakar? It&#039;s the larger man and a sign of character when we can admit to having been wrong and having made an unjust accusation. So are you a man of character or just petty and small?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Pan is a collaborator, a Nazi supporter and a Jewish agent sniffer back when the Nazis needed informants to collect Jews&#8221; Ymarsakar </p>
<p>By any measure that is an accusation of active collaboration. A patently false accusation when applied to a four year old. </p>
<p>&#8220;I hold him in contempt but can’t go along with the Nazi supporter label.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Because that would be unfair. As opposed to what they are doing in this country, this Regime, right.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>No because that is a patently false accusation. And I hold him in contempt specifically because of his moral cowardice, collaboration in the Benghazi cover-up and what he is actively doing in this country. </p>
<p>You have a problem admitting when you&#8217;re wrong don&#8217;t you, Ymarsakar? It&#8217;s the larger man and a sign of character when we can admit to having been wrong and having made an unjust accusation. So are you a man of character or just petty and small?</p>
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		By: Steve		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-834073</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 00:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Leon has nothing to lose with Obama. He has everything to gain with the Clintons.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leon has nothing to lose with Obama. He has everything to gain with the Clintons.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-833957</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There will be more and more former team obama members desperate to distance themselves from dear leader&#039;s unfolding disasters. Hillary and Panetta will be joined by Hagel and many others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There will be more and more former team obama members desperate to distance themselves from dear leader&#8217;s unfolding disasters. Hillary and Panetta will be joined by Hagel and many others.</p>
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		By: Range of Light		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/10/02/leon-panetta/#comment-833947</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 20:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Man, it was crowded years ago under Barry&#039;s bus. With Leon being a lifelong Liberal, will he be ammune from Racism grenade tossing? Hmmmm.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, it was crowded years ago under Barry&#8217;s bus. With Leon being a lifelong Liberal, will he be ammune from Racism grenade tossing? Hmmmm.</p>
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