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		By: Nick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 22:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Roc, maybe that&#039;s the problem - we&#039;ve gone from being distracted drivers with cellphones to distracted drivers without cellphones.  If you&#039;ve gotten used to paying 50% of your attention to the road, maybe it takes you a couple of years to get back in the habit of full attention.  Then again, maybe we&#039;re just out of the habit of paying full attention to &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roc, maybe that&#8217;s the problem &#8211; we&#8217;ve gone from being distracted drivers with cellphones to distracted drivers without cellphones.  If you&#8217;ve gotten used to paying 50% of your attention to the road, maybe it takes you a couple of years to get back in the habit of full attention.  Then again, maybe we&#8217;re just out of the habit of paying full attention to <i>anything</i>.</p>
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		By: roc scssrs		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[roc scssrs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anything that distracts you from driving is dangerous. I think there have been studies, for example, that indicate that hands-free cellphones are no safer than handheld devices. It&#039;s the content that distracts. Listening to the radio--perhaps an especially thoughtful piece on NPR--can be dangerous too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything that distracts you from driving is dangerous. I think there have been studies, for example, that indicate that hands-free cellphones are no safer than handheld devices. It&#8217;s the content that distracts. Listening to the radio&#8211;perhaps an especially thoughtful piece on NPR&#8211;can be dangerous too.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone&#8230;</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 3,000 souls are a suicide regiment.

We have already proven we can&#039;t stop the experts from becoming infected.

Ask anyone asked these troops if they&#039;re ready to throw their lives away?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 3,000 souls are a suicide regiment.</p>
<p>We have already proven we can&#8217;t stop the experts from becoming infected.</p>
<p>Ask anyone asked these troops if they&#8217;re ready to throw their lives away?</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 18:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oldflyer, you&#039;re  right about traffic enforcement. Too many drivers, not enough highway patrol. Driving laws are notable mostly because they are  so hard to enforce. Washington State does it by swarming certain areas for a few days and giving out massive numbers of tickets.  Then they move on to another section of freeway. It is meant to deincentivize speeding, but only works with maybe 50% of the drivers. I&#039;m kind of tight fisted. A $200 speeding ticket is not something I sneeze at, so I drive the limit. Cars pass me like I&#039;m standing still.  We don&#039;t have the volumes of freeway traffic as southern California, yet. Only four or five lanes at most and not bumper to bumper at 70 miles per hour. So, a tad easier to patrol. Even so, 50% seem to be betting they won&#039;t get caught.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldflyer, you&#8217;re  right about traffic enforcement. Too many drivers, not enough highway patrol. Driving laws are notable mostly because they are  so hard to enforce. Washington State does it by swarming certain areas for a few days and giving out massive numbers of tickets.  Then they move on to another section of freeway. It is meant to deincentivize speeding, but only works with maybe 50% of the drivers. I&#8217;m kind of tight fisted. A $200 speeding ticket is not something I sneeze at, so I drive the limit. Cars pass me like I&#8217;m standing still.  We don&#8217;t have the volumes of freeway traffic as southern California, yet. Only four or five lanes at most and not bumper to bumper at 70 miles per hour. So, a tad easier to patrol. Even so, 50% seem to be betting they won&#8217;t get caught.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Info I trust Brantly got, via WHO:
&quot;People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from semen 61 days after onset of illness in a man who was infected in a laboratory.

The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms, is 2 to 21 days.&quot;

ttp://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

Incubation plus post-illness thus spans a potential 82 days. Not good news.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Info I trust Brantly got, via WHO:<br />
&#8220;People are infectious as long as their blood and secretions contain the virus. Ebola virus was isolated from semen 61 days after onset of illness in a man who was infected in a laboratory.</p>
<p>The incubation period, that is, the time interval from infection with the virus to onset of symptoms, is 2 to 21 days.&#8221;</p>
<p>ttp://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/</p>
<p>Incubation plus post-illness thus spans a potential 82 days. Not good news.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/16/cell-phone-bans-while-driving-may-not-reduce-accidents-after-all/#comment-827698</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo needs to start a series of essays on Ebola and its handling. &quot;The Great Unraveling&quot; is a good place to start.

I have been incensed at the BS dispensed by the medically empowered, particularly Dr. Frieden of the CDC and Dr. Fauci of NIH, over the past few weeks. Frieden is worse, with his insistence of &quot;Not to worry, Ebola is not airborne.&quot; Brantly is brought back &quot;Because he is an American citizen&quot; and we must recognize his Right of Return a la Gazans and Israel. Never mind the risk, however small, but not zero, of injecting Ebola into the USA. Then Frieden goes to Liberia, puts on his biowarfare suit for some photo-ops, and comes back saying, in effect, &quot;Holy shit. This is baaad.&quot;

The Obama administration sure hasn&#039;t shown similar concerns about endangered, nay, now dead, Americans elsewhere. The difference may be Brantly was caring for the wretched blacks of West Africa, a more noble calling than defending the consulate in Benghazi or taking a wrong turn and thus languishing in a Tijuana jail while on active duty.

I saw some of  the Senate hearing on Ebola last night, and it was enough to make one puke. The junior GOP senator from Kansas is a stupid worm and he gets to decide about this stuff. No one asked meaningful questions or offered meaningful thoughts. Standard epidemiology was invoked, e.g. the need to identify and track down all contacts of the infected during the prior 21 days, as if every Liberian has an address and photo ID. In Liberia. Where they slaughtered one another during their stupid conflicts just a decade ago. When I was a kid, they were not called jungle bunnies without a reason.

Oh yeah, Ebola is not airborne....as if there are viruses with winglets, a flying wee tiny nano particle of nucleic acid that exists only to replicate itself. Last I looked, no virus had winglets.

We can add &quot;Delusional Stupidity with Momentarily Deep Pockets&quot; to the list of defects of the Great Unraveling. Obama has called for a coalition of the willing  to join in; if heeded, that will generate an Ebola-centered Fustercluck. But it will not, at least not as far as the Powers are concerned. Only the USA will commit suicide via Political (of which Brown Awareness and Love is a part) Correctness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo needs to start a series of essays on Ebola and its handling. &#8220;The Great Unraveling&#8221; is a good place to start.</p>
<p>I have been incensed at the BS dispensed by the medically empowered, particularly Dr. Frieden of the CDC and Dr. Fauci of NIH, over the past few weeks. Frieden is worse, with his insistence of &#8220;Not to worry, Ebola is not airborne.&#8221; Brantly is brought back &#8220;Because he is an American citizen&#8221; and we must recognize his Right of Return a la Gazans and Israel. Never mind the risk, however small, but not zero, of injecting Ebola into the USA. Then Frieden goes to Liberia, puts on his biowarfare suit for some photo-ops, and comes back saying, in effect, &#8220;Holy shit. This is baaad.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Obama administration sure hasn&#8217;t shown similar concerns about endangered, nay, now dead, Americans elsewhere. The difference may be Brantly was caring for the wretched blacks of West Africa, a more noble calling than defending the consulate in Benghazi or taking a wrong turn and thus languishing in a Tijuana jail while on active duty.</p>
<p>I saw some of  the Senate hearing on Ebola last night, and it was enough to make one puke. The junior GOP senator from Kansas is a stupid worm and he gets to decide about this stuff. No one asked meaningful questions or offered meaningful thoughts. Standard epidemiology was invoked, e.g. the need to identify and track down all contacts of the infected during the prior 21 days, as if every Liberian has an address and photo ID. In Liberia. Where they slaughtered one another during their stupid conflicts just a decade ago. When I was a kid, they were not called jungle bunnies without a reason.</p>
<p>Oh yeah, Ebola is not airborne&#8230;.as if there are viruses with winglets, a flying wee tiny nano particle of nucleic acid that exists only to replicate itself. Last I looked, no virus had winglets.</p>
<p>We can add &#8220;Delusional Stupidity with Momentarily Deep Pockets&#8221; to the list of defects of the Great Unraveling. Obama has called for a coalition of the willing  to join in; if heeded, that will generate an Ebola-centered Fustercluck. But it will not, at least not as far as the Powers are concerned. Only the USA will commit suicide via Political (of which Brown Awareness and Love is a part) Correctness.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oldflyer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 15:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ, here in SoCal I don&#039;t believe that any traffic laws are enforced. 

I was critical of CHP for not patrolling the freeways, until it dawned on me that there was no way to patrol ten lanes, no shoulders to speak of,  that are saturated with traffic.  Unless of course, the ubiquitous traffic cameras were  adapted and also used for enforcement.

Every municipality I know of has either rejected or abandoned  red light cameras.  Yet there are so few traffic patrols that folks run lights with reckless abandon (no pun).

Back when I regularly visited England, municipalities made wide use of speed cameras.  They didn&#039;t seem to worry about infringing on &quot;rights&quot;.  If your car was speeding, you were responsible.  That may have changed in the new, multi-cultural England.

We are very ambivalent about priorities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ, here in SoCal I don&#8217;t believe that any traffic laws are enforced. </p>
<p>I was critical of CHP for not patrolling the freeways, until it dawned on me that there was no way to patrol ten lanes, no shoulders to speak of,  that are saturated with traffic.  Unless of course, the ubiquitous traffic cameras were  adapted and also used for enforcement.</p>
<p>Every municipality I know of has either rejected or abandoned  red light cameras.  Yet there are so few traffic patrols that folks run lights with reckless abandon (no pun).</p>
<p>Back when I regularly visited England, municipalities made wide use of speed cameras.  They didn&#8217;t seem to worry about infringing on &#8220;rights&#8221;.  If your car was speeding, you were responsible.  That may have changed in the new, multi-cultural England.</p>
<p>We are very ambivalent about priorities.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 06:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Kent Brantly, for those unaware, was an early infectee.

So, we&#039;re getting management advice from a doctor who couldn&#039;t maintain protocols, himself.

Further, he can&#039;t accept, won&#039;t accept, that state of the art Haz Mat suits can&#039;t be tolerated in the west African climate. 

Any such attempt results in heat stroke - itself a prompt killer.

Why does it take me to see that we don&#039;t have the capacity to deal with ebola?

We may reduce the global population by 85% in less than a few years by letting this nightmare out of the bottle.

It&#039;s bad enough that the Africans are dying. Why extend that misery planet wide?

In the 14th Century it took a total breakdown in civil order before the brainiacs figured out the obvious: we can&#039;t handle a truly horrific disease.

Nature is bigger than us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Kent Brantly, for those unaware, was an early infectee.</p>
<p>So, we&#8217;re getting management advice from a doctor who couldn&#8217;t maintain protocols, himself.</p>
<p>Further, he can&#8217;t accept, won&#8217;t accept, that state of the art Haz Mat suits can&#8217;t be tolerated in the west African climate. </p>
<p>Any such attempt results in heat stroke &#8211; itself a prompt killer.</p>
<p>Why does it take me to see that we don&#8217;t have the capacity to deal with ebola?</p>
<p>We may reduce the global population by 85% in less than a few years by letting this nightmare out of the bottle.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough that the Africans are dying. Why extend that misery planet wide?</p>
<p>In the 14th Century it took a total breakdown in civil order before the brainiacs figured out the obvious: we can&#8217;t handle a truly horrific disease.</p>
<p>Nature is bigger than us.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2014 04:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s against the law to use a cell phone while driving in Washington State. Yet it continues almost unabated. There aren&#039;t enough police to enforce the law. So many are violating it that it&#039;s obvious no one worries about being caught.  Maybe that&#039;s why the accident rate hasn&#039;t decreased. Passing a law doesn&#039;t insure that people will observe it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s against the law to use a cell phone while driving in Washington State. Yet it continues almost unabated. There aren&#8217;t enough police to enforce the law. So many are violating it that it&#8217;s obvious no one worries about being caught.  Maybe that&#8217;s why the accident rate hasn&#8217;t decreased. Passing a law doesn&#8217;t insure that people will observe it.</p>
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