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		By: Range of Light		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-824436</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric: I, like Neo, have many friends here in So. California who are terrific and often hugely talented people but always seem lobotomized by liberalism. It is sometimes stunning how deeply and unquestioning the Koolaid has been consumed to the marrow. Now and then I show my longtime neoconservative stripes, but usually it isn&#039;t worth it as they are literally unreachable with critical thinking in the politics-culture areas. I live and work in the midst of quite stand up Koolaid consumers. (Benedict Canyon, B.Hills &#038; a large west side studio) Sometimes, happily, I do see &#039;tells&#039; among young ones that do give me hope though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric: I, like Neo, have many friends here in So. California who are terrific and often hugely talented people but always seem lobotomized by liberalism. It is sometimes stunning how deeply and unquestioning the Koolaid has been consumed to the marrow. Now and then I show my longtime neoconservative stripes, but usually it isn&#8217;t worth it as they are literally unreachable with critical thinking in the politics-culture areas. I live and work in the midst of quite stand up Koolaid consumers. (Benedict Canyon, B.Hills &amp; a large west side studio) Sometimes, happily, I do see &#8216;tells&#8217; among young ones that do give me hope though.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-824319</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 14:07:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: &quot;You’re not describing the majority of Democrats I know, and I know plenty of them. You’re describing activist leftists, who are a small percentage.&quot;

A tribe only needs so many chieftains.

The problem is the majority of Democrats loyally  and &lt;i&gt;uncritically&lt;/i&gt; uphold the talking points of the party line and, at this stage of the (activist) game (the only social political game there is), Left activists are writing the Democrats party line.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: &#8220;You’re not describing the majority of Democrats I know, and I know plenty of them. You’re describing activist leftists, who are a small percentage.&#8221;</p>
<p>A tribe only needs so many chieftains.</p>
<p>The problem is the majority of Democrats loyally  and <i>uncritically</i> uphold the talking points of the party line and, at this stage of the (activist) game (the only social political game there is), Left activists are writing the Democrats party line.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-824146</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 02:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Stark and Range... Absolutely!! Re-Iran&#039;s nuke progress, aided and abetted by our leadership cowards, the pathetic twits in the White House and Foggy Bottom won&#039;t do s*** themselves and will prevent Bibi from taking drastic action.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stark and Range&#8230; Absolutely!! Re-Iran&#8217;s nuke progress, aided and abetted by our leadership cowards, the pathetic twits in the White House and Foggy Bottom won&#8217;t do s*** themselves and will prevent Bibi from taking drastic action.</p>
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		By: Stark		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-824130</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2014 01:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Meanwhile with chaos as the backdrop, lets not bring up Iran and our most excellent strategy to prevent them from getting the bomb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile with chaos as the backdrop, lets not bring up Iran and our most excellent strategy to prevent them from getting the bomb.</p>
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		By: Range of Light		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-824031</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 20:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There have been more than a few obviously evil acts perpetrated (either by action or deliberate inaction) by the truly pathetic bunch in executive and senatorial power since the Pretender in Chief&#039;s January 20, 2009 swearing-in. Choose your own topper from the carnage, but the one that grinds on me most is what a regular commenter here calls &quot;The Abandonment of our Massive Victory in Iraq&quot;. The reaping of what any blind, retarded doofus could have forseen with the ISIS barbarians is simply unspeakably loathsome. Follow that up with Obama &#038; Kerry&#039;s literal sand bagging of Israel and particularly its Prime Minister. Evil, plain and simple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been more than a few obviously evil acts perpetrated (either by action or deliberate inaction) by the truly pathetic bunch in executive and senatorial power since the Pretender in Chief&#8217;s January 20, 2009 swearing-in. Choose your own topper from the carnage, but the one that grinds on me most is what a regular commenter here calls &#8220;The Abandonment of our Massive Victory in Iraq&#8221;. The reaping of what any blind, retarded doofus could have forseen with the ISIS barbarians is simply unspeakably loathsome. Follow that up with Obama &amp; Kerry&#8217;s literal sand bagging of Israel and particularly its Prime Minister. Evil, plain and simple.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-823993</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;You’re not describing the majority of Democrats I know, and I know plenty of them.&lt;/b&gt;

The majority of Democrats like accessories to the crime or guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Oh they didn&#039;t intend it.

But whether it is voluntary or not, the emphasis is on the manslaughter, not the intent so much. And the punishment for the sin doesn&#039;t vary that much. Prison by this amount of years vs prison by the other.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>You’re not describing the majority of Democrats I know, and I know plenty of them.</b></p>
<p>The majority of Democrats like accessories to the crime or guilty of involuntary manslaughter. Oh they didn&#8217;t intend it.</p>
<p>But whether it is voluntary or not, the emphasis is on the manslaughter, not the intent so much. And the punishment for the sin doesn&#8217;t vary that much. Prison by this amount of years vs prison by the other.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-823983</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 18:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[We disagree on that one.

Of the Democrats - there are some in willful ignorance. That is still wrong by any measure of conventional morality. I.e. It is immoral behavior. It is wrong. They are wrong.

There are some whose ignorance is for one reason or another &quot;invincible&quot; in the old terminology. They are less at fault than the first group, but they are still responsible to some degree.


The rest are unspeakably wicked and that&#039;s it full stop.

These people, let&#039;s remember, kill babies for sport, money, and comfort; they for practical purposes imprison whole social subgroups into poverty, ghettos, drugs and despair. They use brute force to spy on people and take their money from them via regulations and taxes and government bureaucracies. They lie cheat and steal every possible election they can. At their very best! they say that a man can marry a man and that a woman might be a man or vice versa.

I do not call them evil. Reality, Justice, and Decency themselves call them evil.

And finally, I use the word &quot;evil&quot; in the classic sense - an absence of good; a defect in the good; a privation of good. In that definition it is a given that there is plenty of good there, but it is turned to the dark side for whatever reason. It is good to have muscular strength. You may build a house with that strength or play the knock-out game. They chose the latter. That&#039;s what evil is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We disagree on that one.</p>
<p>Of the Democrats &#8211; there are some in willful ignorance. That is still wrong by any measure of conventional morality. I.e. It is immoral behavior. It is wrong. They are wrong.</p>
<p>There are some whose ignorance is for one reason or another &#8220;invincible&#8221; in the old terminology. They are less at fault than the first group, but they are still responsible to some degree.</p>
<p>The rest are unspeakably wicked and that&#8217;s it full stop.</p>
<p>These people, let&#8217;s remember, kill babies for sport, money, and comfort; they for practical purposes imprison whole social subgroups into poverty, ghettos, drugs and despair. They use brute force to spy on people and take their money from them via regulations and taxes and government bureaucracies. They lie cheat and steal every possible election they can. At their very best! they say that a man can marry a man and that a woman might be a man or vice versa.</p>
<p>I do not call them evil. Reality, Justice, and Decency themselves call them evil.</p>
<p>And finally, I use the word &#8220;evil&#8221; in the classic sense &#8211; an absence of good; a defect in the good; a privation of good. In that definition it is a given that there is plenty of good there, but it is turned to the dark side for whatever reason. It is good to have muscular strength. You may build a house with that strength or play the knock-out game. They chose the latter. That&#8217;s what evil is.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-823968</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike:

You&#039;re not describing the majority of Democrats I know, and I know plenty of them.

You&#039;re describing activist leftists, who are a small percentage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re not describing the majority of Democrats I know, and I know plenty of them.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re describing activist leftists, who are a small percentage.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-823966</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot; Anyone who didn’t see them was in purposeful and aware denial, or lives in a fantasy world. The first group is the knaves, the second the fools.&quot;  

1. This describes every Democrat everywhere, all the time.

2. But it&#039;s too mild and shrinks away from the total truth. The horrible total truth is that the majority are not &quot;in denial&quot;. They know damn well what they are doing. They are evil and rotten and seek to destroy an/or &quot;fundamentally transform&quot; America.

They are not &quot;mistaken&quot; or somehow psychologically flawed. They are, rather, wicked psychos. They have chosen evil. Let us at least give them the respect of leaving them to their choices!

Everyone seems to imagine evil will look like in the movies. It does not! It looks closer to the person to the left or right of you. Hanna Arendt. She&#039;s the one who sussed it perfectly. It&#039;s banal. It&#039;s everyday. It really is them! It has always been this way and always will be. Our age is so narcissistic and pretentious and grandiose to think it somehow isn&#039;t thqt.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; Anyone who didn’t see them was in purposeful and aware denial, or lives in a fantasy world. The first group is the knaves, the second the fools.&#8221;  </p>
<p>1. This describes every Democrat everywhere, all the time.</p>
<p>2. But it&#8217;s too mild and shrinks away from the total truth. The horrible total truth is that the majority are not &#8220;in denial&#8221;. They know damn well what they are doing. They are evil and rotten and seek to destroy an/or &#8220;fundamentally transform&#8221; America.</p>
<p>They are not &#8220;mistaken&#8221; or somehow psychologically flawed. They are, rather, wicked psychos. They have chosen evil. Let us at least give them the respect of leaving them to their choices!</p>
<p>Everyone seems to imagine evil will look like in the movies. It does not! It looks closer to the person to the left or right of you. Hanna Arendt. She&#8217;s the one who sussed it perfectly. It&#8217;s banal. It&#8217;s everyday. It really is them! It has always been this way and always will be. Our age is so narcissistic and pretentious and grandiose to think it somehow isn&#8217;t thqt.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/08/being-right-about-the-iraq-pullout/#comment-823916</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2014 13:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[At the WaPo March Thiessen piece, note that in the comments, the rebuttals emphasize the &#039;Bush lied&#039; theme. 

Again, it&#039;s important to set the record straight that OIF was, in fact, right on the law and justified on the policy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the WaPo March Thiessen piece, note that in the comments, the rebuttals emphasize the &#8216;Bush lied&#8217; theme. </p>
<p>Again, it&#8217;s important to set the record straight that OIF was, in fact, right on the law and justified on the policy.</p>
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