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		By: Barry Meislin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barry Meislin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Sep 2014 09:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...they cannot discount the possibility of the US taking actions that harm them....&quot;

Glick is being just a bit cagey here. She should have written (and she knows it):

&quot;...they can count on the US taking actions that harm them...&quot;

It&#039;s already happened. Many a time.

But then what ought one expect from an administration that has &quot;taken actions that harm&quot; the US.

And we ain&#039;t seen nothin&#039; yet; since Obama, especially following the November elections, is about to go into overdrive.

With only the Supreme Court to stop him (since Congress has proved itself incapable).

Indeed, those Old White Males (and One Black Male) will have to be dealt with....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;they cannot discount the possibility of the US taking actions that harm them&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>Glick is being just a bit cagey here. She should have written (and she knows it):</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;they can count on the US taking actions that harm them&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s already happened. Many a time.</p>
<p>But then what ought one expect from an administration that has &#8220;taken actions that harm&#8221; the US.</p>
<p>And we ain&#8217;t seen nothin&#8217; yet; since Obama, especially following the November elections, is about to go into overdrive.</p>
<p>With only the Supreme Court to stop him (since Congress has proved itself incapable).</p>
<p>Indeed, those Old White Males (and One Black Male) will have to be dealt with&#8230;.</p>
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		By: TIm P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TIm P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 23:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don C,

Oops, I didn&#039;t go back to look.
What happens when one &#039;assumes&#039; I guess.
I agree with you on the item that &lt;i&gt;&quot;Islam can have only one caliph&quot;&lt;/i&gt;.

What is curious to see unfold at this point is Israel, Egypt, and Saudi quietly working together to contain Hamas, which is a tentacle of the Muslim Brotherhood which Egypt&#039;s military junta recently threw out of office.  They &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.debka.com/weekly/trial/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all&lt;/a&gt; three have a serious interest in containing fundamentalist islamists.

Then we also see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://thediplomad.blogspot.com/2014/09/obama-is-he-our-boabdil.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US&lt;/a&gt; who was ready to fund the folks trying to overthrow Assad in Syria (ISIS), now working with Syria and Iran to contain these very same islamists in Iraq.  I guess it&#039;s just more of that &lt;i&gt;smart diplomacy&lt;/i&gt; this administration&#039;s been bragging about.

What a rat&#039;s nest.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don C,</p>
<p>Oops, I didn&#8217;t go back to look.<br />
What happens when one &#8216;assumes&#8217; I guess.<br />
I agree with you on the item that <i>&#8220;Islam can have only one caliph&#8221;</i>.</p>
<p>What is curious to see unfold at this point is Israel, Egypt, and Saudi quietly working together to contain Hamas, which is a tentacle of the Muslim Brotherhood which Egypt&#8217;s military junta recently threw out of office.  They <a href="http://www.debka.com/weekly/trial/" rel="nofollow">all</a> three have a serious interest in containing fundamentalist islamists.</p>
<p>Then we also see the <a href="http://thediplomad.blogspot.com/2014/09/obama-is-he-our-boabdil.html" rel="nofollow">US</a> who was ready to fund the folks trying to overthrow Assad in Syria (ISIS), now working with Syria and Iran to contain these very same islamists in Iraq.  I guess it&#8217;s just more of that <i>smart diplomacy</i> this administration&#8217;s been bragging about.</p>
<p>What a rat&#8217;s nest.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 20:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TimP: The &quot;everybody knows&quot; was in a quote from a DC thinktanker in Neo&#039;s citation, not you!
Islam  can have only one caliph, and he must rule Mecca and Medina, don&#039;t you think?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TimP: The &#8220;everybody knows&#8221; was in a quote from a DC thinktanker in Neo&#8217;s citation, not you!<br />
Islam  can have only one caliph, and he must rule Mecca and Medina, don&#8217;t you think?</p>
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		By: Tim P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 04:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don C.
Sounds like you&#039;re all over it.
But I don&#039;t think the Saudis will cut off ISIS until they become a direct threat at home.
Didn&#039;t mean to sound condescending with the &quot;everybody knows&quot;.
And if I&#039;m ever a &lt;i&gt;DC elite&lt;/i&gt;, I&#039;ll know for sure I failed in life.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don C.<br />
Sounds like you&#8217;re all over it.<br />
But I don&#8217;t think the Saudis will cut off ISIS until they become a direct threat at home.<br />
Didn&#8217;t mean to sound condescending with the &#8220;everybody knows&#8221;.<br />
And if I&#8217;m ever a <i>DC elite</i>, I&#8217;ll know for sure I failed in life.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 03:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Heck, TimP I know all about Sunni/Shia. I didn&#039;t know the Kuwaiti pipeline (&quot;Everybody knows&quot;  is something only a D.C. elite would say) but pipelines are not the key. The key is the source of the shekels. Oh, yeah, that would be DohaQatar, site of a recent financial and trade summit with all of the Western players there.

The question about the House of Saud remains. There will be only one caliph, and I doubt the Sauds will take a back seat. They have lots of oil, shekels and a well-equipped airforce. The stuff Neo posted indicates Sauds, Egypt and Israel are to some extent cooperating-- not just against Shias. IS might nominally be Wahhabi, but Wahhabs have killed one another too...so what? It aint just all about the succession to mohamed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, TimP I know all about Sunni/Shia. I didn&#8217;t know the Kuwaiti pipeline (&#8220;Everybody knows&#8221;  is something only a D.C. elite would say) but pipelines are not the key. The key is the source of the shekels. Oh, yeah, that would be DohaQatar, site of a recent financial and trade summit with all of the Western players there.</p>
<p>The question about the House of Saud remains. There will be only one caliph, and I doubt the Sauds will take a back seat. They have lots of oil, shekels and a well-equipped airforce. The stuff Neo posted indicates Sauds, Egypt and Israel are to some extent cooperating&#8211; not just against Shias. IS might nominally be Wahhabi, but Wahhabs have killed one another too&#8230;so what? It aint just all about the succession to mohamed.</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 03:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One must remember that an enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but may be an ally, for a while.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One must remember that an enemy of my enemy is not my friend, but may be an ally, for a while.</p>
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		By: Tim P		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim P]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 01:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don Carlos,
&lt;i&gt;&quot;Why don’t the Saudis attack ISIS?&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
I&#039;m going to assume you are serious and that this is a genuine question. Here&#039;s how I understand it.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;“Everybody knows the money is going through Kuwait and that it’s coming from the Arab Gulf,” said Andrew Tabler, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “Kuwait’s banking system and its money changers have long been a huge problem because they are a major conduit for money to extremist groups in Syria and now Iraq.”
&quot;Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has been publicly accusing Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding ISIS for months. Several reports have detailed how private Gulf funding to various Syrian rebel groups has splintered the Syrian opposition and paved the way for the rise of groups like ISIS and others.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please Goggle &quot;who funds ISIS&quot; is a good place to start.

One good article is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.  

The crack young staff of ISIS and most of the other good folk who make up the Islamist terrorist movements, are Sunni and more specifically Wahabi (or Salafists).  The Wahabi are an ultra-conservative sect of the Sunni branch of Islam.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_movement&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here&lt;/a&gt; is a Wiki article on them.  

It&#039;s a long, sad, sordid, and twisted tale and more than I can write about here. 

But it&#039;s a good place to begin.  

Then read about the Shiite sect of islam. This is mainly practiced in Iran (Iranians by the way are not Arabs, but Persians), though the majority of the Arab population in Iraq are also Shiites, who were brutally suppressed by the Sunni minority of whom Saddam was a member. Clear as mud so far?

Saudi and Iran are the two rivals for &lt;i&gt;top dog&lt;/i&gt; in the region. In addition to all the other threads running through this sad area, what you are seeing is a proxy war between Sunnis and Shiite states for dominance in the region.  Hezbollah is the main Shiite terrorist organization.  They are a major force in Lebanon and side with Assad in Syria, who is a major client state of Iran&#039;s. 

I could go on but there are many far better sources to read up on this than my extemporaneous prattling.
But in short, the Saudis are NOT about to do anything to stop ISIS. They fund and support them. 

The question you should be asking is why are we allied with Saudi? Oh wait! Could it be because the Saudis are buying us off? &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Saudi+funding+of+American+Universities&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hmm&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don Carlos,<br />
<i>&#8220;Why don’t the Saudis attack ISIS?&#8221;</i><br />
I&#8217;m going to assume you are serious and that this is a genuine question. Here&#8217;s how I understand it.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;“Everybody knows the money is going through Kuwait and that it’s coming from the Arab Gulf,” said Andrew Tabler, senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. “Kuwait’s banking system and its money changers have long been a huge problem because they are a major conduit for money to extremist groups in Syria and now Iraq.”<br />
&#8220;Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has been publicly accusing Saudi Arabia and Qatar of funding ISIS for months. Several reports have detailed how private Gulf funding to various Syrian rebel groups has splintered the Syrian opposition and paved the way for the rise of groups like ISIS and others.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Please Goggle &#8220;who funds ISIS&#8221; is a good place to start.</p>
<p>One good article is <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/14/america-s-allies-are-funding-isis.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.  </p>
<p>The crack young staff of ISIS and most of the other good folk who make up the Islamist terrorist movements, are Sunni and more specifically Wahabi (or Salafists).  The Wahabi are an ultra-conservative sect of the Sunni branch of Islam.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabi_movement" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is a Wiki article on them.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a long, sad, sordid, and twisted tale and more than I can write about here. </p>
<p>But it&#8217;s a good place to begin.  </p>
<p>Then read about the Shiite sect of islam. This is mainly practiced in Iran (Iranians by the way are not Arabs, but Persians), though the majority of the Arab population in Iraq are also Shiites, who were brutally suppressed by the Sunni minority of whom Saddam was a member. Clear as mud so far?</p>
<p>Saudi and Iran are the two rivals for <i>top dog</i> in the region. In addition to all the other threads running through this sad area, what you are seeing is a proxy war between Sunnis and Shiite states for dominance in the region.  Hezbollah is the main Shiite terrorist organization.  They are a major force in Lebanon and side with Assad in Syria, who is a major client state of Iran&#8217;s. </p>
<p>I could go on but there are many far better sources to read up on this than my extemporaneous prattling.<br />
But in short, the Saudis are NOT about to do anything to stop ISIS. They fund and support them. </p>
<p>The question you should be asking is why are we allied with Saudi? Oh wait! Could it be because the Saudis are buying us off? <a href="https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Saudi+funding+of+American+Universities" rel="nofollow">Hmm</a></p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 01:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;...not only can they not rely on the US, they cannot discount the possibility of the US taking actions that harm them.&quot;

Good. The World who adored him now knows how ordinary Americans feel. We&#039;ve been harmed by this so-called president every day for 6 years.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend? If they are against Obama they are my friends then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;not only can they not rely on the US, they cannot discount the possibility of the US taking actions that harm them.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good. The World who adored him now knows how ordinary Americans feel. We&#8217;ve been harmed by this so-called president every day for 6 years.</p>
<p>The enemy of my enemy is my friend? If they are against Obama they are my friends then.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 00:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don C...Yep, Commentary is wonderful. Has been for a long, long time. But also look at JWR. Jewish World Review.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don C&#8230;Yep, Commentary is wonderful. Has been for a long, long time. But also look at JWR. Jewish World Review.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2014 00:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A Middle East question: Why don&#039;t the Saudis attack ISIS? They&#039;ve got a well-equipped airforce, lots of money, and at this point, surely capable airforce personnel. Why is the House of Saud scurrying around like roaches when the light is turned on?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Middle East question: Why don&#8217;t the Saudis attack ISIS? They&#8217;ve got a well-equipped airforce, lots of money, and at this point, surely capable airforce personnel. Why is the House of Saud scurrying around like roaches when the light is turned on?</p>
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