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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-822590</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2014 18:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert,

I was wondering who or what you meant by &quot;West&quot; under another post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert,</p>
<p>I was wondering who or what you meant by &#8220;West&#8221; under another post.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-822303</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2014 01:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric

Allen West has a post up that runs ten pages.

He&#039;s going far, far, far, beyond my conjectures -- which are all based on the open media -- particularly media from the Middle East and Fleet Street.

1) He has crisp evidence that Barry and Hillary started their project -- in a lawful manner -- in Libya.

2) Then they decided to take the show on the road -- to Syria.

But Syria abuts Israel... think AIPAC... =&#062; 
think CIA + SoS + WH = let&#039;s do it on the down low.

3) Then the entire operation blows up, first in Benghazi...

4) Then in Syria + Iraq.

West alleges that Stevens was actually 100% CIA -- with an ambassadorial cover. Libya didn&#039;t have ANY slot for conventional &#039;ambassadoring&#039; anyway.

5) He further alleges that the key players were all too soon to be linked to AQ franchises.

With the result that Barry&#039;s &#039;best buddies&#039; ended up on America&#039;s terrorist want list -- with one currently in custody.

Bing/ Google Operation Zero Footprint and Allen West.

Everything is worse than even I figured.

This goes wildly beyond Iran-Contra/ Charlies War/ or anything Ike or Kennedy ever dreamed of.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric</p>
<p>Allen West has a post up that runs ten pages.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s going far, far, far, beyond my conjectures &#8212; which are all based on the open media &#8212; particularly media from the Middle East and Fleet Street.</p>
<p>1) He has crisp evidence that Barry and Hillary started their project &#8212; in a lawful manner &#8212; in Libya.</p>
<p>2) Then they decided to take the show on the road &#8212; to Syria.</p>
<p>But Syria abuts Israel&#8230; think AIPAC&#8230; =&gt;<br />
think CIA + SoS + WH = let&#8217;s do it on the down low.</p>
<p>3) Then the entire operation blows up, first in Benghazi&#8230;</p>
<p>4) Then in Syria + Iraq.</p>
<p>West alleges that Stevens was actually 100% CIA &#8212; with an ambassadorial cover. Libya didn&#8217;t have ANY slot for conventional &#8216;ambassadoring&#8217; anyway.</p>
<p>5) He further alleges that the key players were all too soon to be linked to AQ franchises.</p>
<p>With the result that Barry&#8217;s &#8216;best buddies&#8217; ended up on America&#8217;s terrorist want list &#8212; with one currently in custody.</p>
<p>Bing/ Google Operation Zero Footprint and Allen West.</p>
<p>Everything is worse than even I figured.</p>
<p>This goes wildly beyond Iran-Contra/ Charlies War/ or anything Ike or Kennedy ever dreamed of.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-822273</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2014 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ,

If blert is positing what we think he is and he&#039;s correct, then Obama is actually sincerely trying to achieve US policy aims, but he and his decision-making circle are parodies of the Left&#039;s neocon-strawman come to life with stupefyingly poor judgement.

As frustrated as I am by Obama, it&#039;s hard to believe he&#039;s &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; bad and could be surrounded by advisors that are that bad, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ,</p>
<p>If blert is positing what we think he is and he&#8217;s correct, then Obama is actually sincerely trying to achieve US policy aims, but he and his decision-making circle are parodies of the Left&#8217;s neocon-strawman come to life with stupefyingly poor judgement.</p>
<p>As frustrated as I am by Obama, it&#8217;s hard to believe he&#8217;s <i>that</i> bad and could be surrounded by advisors that are that bad, too.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-822082</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the link, Eric.  It&#039;s a well written philosophical piece. My question is the same as Hank Gaffney&#039;s (from the comments). What are the nuts and bolts of this idea?  My idea is that our military must be so unquestionably strong as to discourage competition from those who  want to use conquest or subversion to gain their ends.  With that piece in place, our diplomats and spies can then operate with more confidence and firmness when dealing with the space between war and peace. Of course that&#039;s  a mute discussion now, what with the Obama policy of gutting our military.

I agree with you that blert is positing  that Obama is trying to replicate Charlie Wilson&#039;s War  to defeat the USSR in Afghanistan. That is, Obama wanted to use a proxy jihadi army to overthrow Assad. Unlike Charlie Wilson&#039;s War, the blowback is occurring before the goal  has been reached.  If this is true, I  can understand Obama&#039;s being stunned by the operation spinning out of control. It also explains a lot about his unwillingness to get aggressive against them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Eric.  It&#8217;s a well written philosophical piece. My question is the same as Hank Gaffney&#8217;s (from the comments). What are the nuts and bolts of this idea?  My idea is that our military must be so unquestionably strong as to discourage competition from those who  want to use conquest or subversion to gain their ends.  With that piece in place, our diplomats and spies can then operate with more confidence and firmness when dealing with the space between war and peace. Of course that&#8217;s  a mute discussion now, what with the Obama policy of gutting our military.</p>
<p>I agree with you that blert is positing  that Obama is trying to replicate Charlie Wilson&#8217;s War  to defeat the USSR in Afghanistan. That is, Obama wanted to use a proxy jihadi army to overthrow Assad. Unlike Charlie Wilson&#8217;s War, the blowback is occurring before the goal  has been reached.  If this is true, I  can understand Obama&#8217;s being stunned by the operation spinning out of control. It also explains a lot about his unwillingness to get aggressive against them.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-822048</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 14:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert,

Your position is Obama is purposefully using the terrorists as a proxy force in a kind of 1980s Afghan mujahideen redux? And taking a step back from using the terrorists, Obama deliberately trained, equipped, and empowered the neo-mujahideen terrorists for the anti-autocrat campaign?

What&#039;s Obama&#039;s long-range strategy? Note: We didn&#039;t have a long-term strategy regarding the Afghan mujahideen in the anti-Soviet fight.

Generally speaking, Obama has shown little to no interest in building the long-term peace:
http://warontherocks.com/2014/08/peace-and-war-the-space-between/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert,</p>
<p>Your position is Obama is purposefully using the terrorists as a proxy force in a kind of 1980s Afghan mujahideen redux? And taking a step back from using the terrorists, Obama deliberately trained, equipped, and empowered the neo-mujahideen terrorists for the anti-autocrat campaign?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s long-range strategy? Note: We didn&#8217;t have a long-term strategy regarding the Afghan mujahideen in the anti-Soviet fight.</p>
<p>Generally speaking, Obama has shown little to no interest in building the long-term peace:<br />
<a href="http://warontherocks.com/2014/08/peace-and-war-the-space-between/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://warontherocks.com/2014/08/peace-and-war-the-space-between/</a></p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-822016</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NeoConScum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 12:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Little sign above BHO&#039;s bathroom mirror: 
Defaco Ergo Sum.

But, then, he&#039;s rarely there to read it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little sign above BHO&#8217;s bathroom mirror:<br />
Defaco Ergo Sum.</p>
<p>But, then, he&#8217;s rarely there to read it.</p>
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		By: Will		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-821838</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Will]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 01:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 2007 I had a real bad feeling about what was coming, and nothing that&#039;s occurred in the ensuing years has assuaged that one bit. I&#039;ve become very intolerant of listening to people who ought to know better continuously use terms like &quot;incompetent&quot; &quot;out of his league&quot; &quot;disinterested&quot;. I heard it again on a radio program the other day, when a caller stated that he felt there was deliberate malfeasance, and this well known conservative thinker and host dismissed his concerns, claiming the shadowy 44th as &quot;jv&quot; bush-league&quot;. Too many coincidences, too many dots that connect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2007 I had a real bad feeling about what was coming, and nothing that&#8217;s occurred in the ensuing years has assuaged that one bit. I&#8217;ve become very intolerant of listening to people who ought to know better continuously use terms like &#8220;incompetent&#8221; &#8220;out of his league&#8221; &#8220;disinterested&#8221;. I heard it again on a radio program the other day, when a caller stated that he felt there was deliberate malfeasance, and this well known conservative thinker and host dismissed his concerns, claiming the shadowy 44th as &#8220;jv&#8221; bush-league&#8221;. Too many coincidences, too many dots that connect.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-821685</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 18:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hey, give the guy a break!  He&#039;s got important decisions to make:  let&#039;s see, Hawaii or Martha&#039;s Vineyard?  Sand wedge or 8-iron?  Titleist or Wilson?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, give the guy a break!  He&#8217;s got important decisions to make:  let&#8217;s see, Hawaii or Martha&#8217;s Vineyard?  Sand wedge or 8-iron?  Titleist or Wilson?</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-821582</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 14:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Folks it should be obvious that Barry has no end of contacts with -- and inside -- ISIS.

1) It&#039;s raising an army -- levée en masse -- which makes it impossible for ISIS to NOT recruit Arab agents.

2) It has at least 2,000 &#039;Jordanian&#039; Arabs in its ranks. This cohort is the core around which al Baghdadi has launched the Mosul offensive.

3) ISIS has captured a slew of American communications gear -- re-purposed from the Iraqi army and from the Jordanian cohort trained to depose Assad. That project is on hold, of course.

Between all of the chatter and the ability to dial it in -- see Commando Solo -- Barry knows everything -- first and early. The totally zany idea that ISIS is not being followed by the White House is bizarre.

Without American, British, KSA, and Jordanian funding, the Jordanian cohort could have never been organized and trained. Ever since this crowd went rogue, ISIS has become overwhelmingly competent.

What a co-incidence!

Being an international scandal of first magnitude, none of those nations that launched this project permits it to circulate in the popular press.

In Britain, KSA and Jordan -- such leakages are heavy crimes resulting in prison terms -- if not worse.

In America, the MSM is in Barry&#039;s hip pocket. They are of the team. Naturally not a single American MSM outlet is willing to touch a meme that is EVERYWHERE in the Muslim Middle East.

Not surprisingly, al Baghdadi figures he&#039;s got Barry where he wants him. 

At this time, ISIS is shifting towards ejecting Assad from Damascus even as it is pressuring Assad up north, near Turkey.

Eastern Syria is now, free of SAA elements. 

The Golan is manned by a skeleton cadre backed up by long range howitzers -- that are normally ranged on Damascus. Yes, dimensions are that tight.

By the commentary here, more the lack of it, I can see that the commentariat is awaiting the American press to announce the obvious. You&#039;ve got a L O N G wait coming. Until the truth is outed, nothing is going to make sense.

I&#039;m amused by the Fox network. No commentator can make heads or tails out of Barry&#039;s inactivity. None appreciate his jihadi back-fire (proxy) army. 

One might note the supreme confidence that Barry has while in Estonia. Everything is starting to work out the way he wants. Everyone else is getting agitated. They don&#039;t have his intel feed. And they certainly have not tumbled to his Cardinal Richelieu style grand strategy: Baffle them with Jihad.

Mo&#039;s dicta: &quot;All warfare is founded on deceit&quot; [paraphrased] must draw out the best in Barry. For the boy is deceit personified. He even believes his own lies, his own myth.

[He&#039;s probably banned pins from the White House, lest they prick his bubble; pinheads are another matter entirely.]

&#038;&#038;&#038;

Barry&#039;s got to be VERY happy with Islamabad. 

As long predicted (by moi) the Pakistani Army (aka the deep government) would be economically gutted once Barry backed out of the Taliban&#039;s cul-de-sac. 

Without ISAF (America&#039;s) protection monies (the Punjabi shakedown racket) Pakistan financially implodes.

Naturally this takes the shape of the civilians bearing all the pain -- while the boys with the guns try to ride it out. Good luck with that strategy.

&#038;&#038;&#038;

Again, it an exponentially increasing Muslim population that is TOTALLY dependent upon Western food stuffs -- for political stability. A ten percent shortfall is toxic, if not politically lethal.

http://www.newgeography.com/content/002940-pakistan-where-population-bomb-exploding

No-one can stay ahead of such a snowball.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks it should be obvious that Barry has no end of contacts with &#8212; and inside &#8212; ISIS.</p>
<p>1) It&#8217;s raising an army &#8212; levée en masse &#8212; which makes it impossible for ISIS to NOT recruit Arab agents.</p>
<p>2) It has at least 2,000 &#8216;Jordanian&#8217; Arabs in its ranks. This cohort is the core around which al Baghdadi has launched the Mosul offensive.</p>
<p>3) ISIS has captured a slew of American communications gear &#8212; re-purposed from the Iraqi army and from the Jordanian cohort trained to depose Assad. That project is on hold, of course.</p>
<p>Between all of the chatter and the ability to dial it in &#8212; see Commando Solo &#8212; Barry knows everything &#8212; first and early. The totally zany idea that ISIS is not being followed by the White House is bizarre.</p>
<p>Without American, British, KSA, and Jordanian funding, the Jordanian cohort could have never been organized and trained. Ever since this crowd went rogue, ISIS has become overwhelmingly competent.</p>
<p>What a co-incidence!</p>
<p>Being an international scandal of first magnitude, none of those nations that launched this project permits it to circulate in the popular press.</p>
<p>In Britain, KSA and Jordan &#8212; such leakages are heavy crimes resulting in prison terms &#8212; if not worse.</p>
<p>In America, the MSM is in Barry&#8217;s hip pocket. They are of the team. Naturally not a single American MSM outlet is willing to touch a meme that is EVERYWHERE in the Muslim Middle East.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly, al Baghdadi figures he&#8217;s got Barry where he wants him. </p>
<p>At this time, ISIS is shifting towards ejecting Assad from Damascus even as it is pressuring Assad up north, near Turkey.</p>
<p>Eastern Syria is now, free of SAA elements. </p>
<p>The Golan is manned by a skeleton cadre backed up by long range howitzers &#8212; that are normally ranged on Damascus. Yes, dimensions are that tight.</p>
<p>By the commentary here, more the lack of it, I can see that the commentariat is awaiting the American press to announce the obvious. You&#8217;ve got a L O N G wait coming. Until the truth is outed, nothing is going to make sense.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m amused by the Fox network. No commentator can make heads or tails out of Barry&#8217;s inactivity. None appreciate his jihadi back-fire (proxy) army. </p>
<p>One might note the supreme confidence that Barry has while in Estonia. Everything is starting to work out the way he wants. Everyone else is getting agitated. They don&#8217;t have his intel feed. And they certainly have not tumbled to his Cardinal Richelieu style grand strategy: Baffle them with Jihad.</p>
<p>Mo&#8217;s dicta: &#8220;All warfare is founded on deceit&#8221; [paraphrased] must draw out the best in Barry. For the boy is deceit personified. He even believes his own lies, his own myth.</p>
<p>[He&#8217;s probably banned pins from the White House, lest they prick his bubble; pinheads are another matter entirely.]</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>Barry&#8217;s got to be VERY happy with Islamabad. </p>
<p>As long predicted (by moi) the Pakistani Army (aka the deep government) would be economically gutted once Barry backed out of the Taliban&#8217;s cul-de-sac. </p>
<p>Without ISAF (America&#8217;s) protection monies (the Punjabi shakedown racket) Pakistan financially implodes.</p>
<p>Naturally this takes the shape of the civilians bearing all the pain &#8212; while the boys with the guns try to ride it out. Good luck with that strategy.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>Again, it an exponentially increasing Muslim population that is TOTALLY dependent upon Western food stuffs &#8212; for political stability. A ten percent shortfall is toxic, if not politically lethal.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newgeography.com/content/002940-pakistan-where-population-bomb-exploding" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.newgeography.com/content/002940-pakistan-where-population-bomb-exploding</a></p>
<p>No-one can stay ahead of such a snowball.</p>
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		By: Orson		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/09/02/obama-knew-all-about-isis/#comment-821553</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 13:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Will the real Banana Republican please give it up?]]></description>
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