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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/26/its-time-to-boycott-ap-history/#comment-819291</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Private schools are no more protected by their high costs than the Ivy league is from the Left. High costs do not purchase freedom from Leftism. Private schools just ease the path for aspiring elites, of which my kids were some.&lt;/b&gt;

The fact that Leftists intended this be so, is part of the package. And it&#039;s what those kids pay into it and get out their credentials.

It has absolutely nothing to do with private costs and the economic system, just as the Left is not about economic principles nor is it about capitalism or anti capitalism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Private schools are no more protected by their high costs than the Ivy league is from the Left. High costs do not purchase freedom from Leftism. Private schools just ease the path for aspiring elites, of which my kids were some.</b></p>
<p>The fact that Leftists intended this be so, is part of the package. And it&#8217;s what those kids pay into it and get out their credentials.</p>
<p>It has absolutely nothing to do with private costs and the economic system, just as the Left is not about economic principles nor is it about capitalism or anti capitalism.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/26/its-time-to-boycott-ap-history/#comment-819289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Home schooling will never be practiced by more than a small percentage of the population. It is way too labor intensive, and one parent has to be home.&lt;/b&gt;

And that&#039;s why the system is failing.

The people don&#039;t deserve better education and they know it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Home schooling will never be practiced by more than a small percentage of the population. It is way too labor intensive, and one parent has to be home.</b></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why the system is failing.</p>
<p>The people don&#8217;t deserve better education and they know it.</p>
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		By: GA		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/26/its-time-to-boycott-ap-history/#comment-819220</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Problem with such travesties is the way it&#039;s taught, not merely the content.
The implication--sometimes it&#039;s explicit--is that the old way, the myth, is the redneck version, the jingoisitic version, the Know-Nothing version.
Knowing the new stuff makes you superior to those unwashed masses.  They were pulling this stuff on us in college in the Sixties.  So, to unlearn the propaganda is to put oneself with the great unwashed.  This, I submit, amounts to a fortress protecting the individual&#039;s erroneous view of history.  Can&#039;t afford to give it up because it&#039;s more than facts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Problem with such travesties is the way it&#8217;s taught, not merely the content.<br />
The implication&#8211;sometimes it&#8217;s explicit&#8211;is that the old way, the myth, is the redneck version, the jingoisitic version, the Know-Nothing version.<br />
Knowing the new stuff makes you superior to those unwashed masses.  They were pulling this stuff on us in college in the Sixties.  So, to unlearn the propaganda is to put oneself with the great unwashed.  This, I submit, amounts to a fortress protecting the individual&#8217;s erroneous view of history.  Can&#8217;t afford to give it up because it&#8217;s more than facts.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 01:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Private schools are no more protected by their high costs than the Ivy league is from the Left. High costs do not purchase freedom from Leftism. Private schools just ease the path for aspiring elites, of which my kids were some.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Private schools are no more protected by their high costs than the Ivy league is from the Left. High costs do not purchase freedom from Leftism. Private schools just ease the path for aspiring elites, of which my kids were some.</p>
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		By: G Joubert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2014 00:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Home schooling will never be practiced by more than a small percentage of the population. It is way too labor intensive, and one parent has to be home.&quot;

I profoundly disagree, if for no other reason than mortar and brick schools are a so obviously a thing of the past, like a lot of things the Internet fossilized. And that&#039;s without even getting to and considering the ubiquitous multitudes public education failures.  Online learning is in the process of transforming primary education.  Kids learn more in 2 hours or less online what they sit through in class all day to supposedly learn.

Merely being a publicly-paid babysitter won&#039;t be enough to save public education.  

Private schools as we know them are too expensive for most people.  

Vouchers seems like a good idea, until you wrap your head around the fact that if we allow Christian schools and Jewish academies to be paid by vouchers, then by virtue of the 1st Amendment we cannot stop Islamic madrassas from also receiving them.  Quite frankly, that all by itself completely chilled me on the idea of vouchers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Home schooling will never be practiced by more than a small percentage of the population. It is way too labor intensive, and one parent has to be home.&#8221;</p>
<p>I profoundly disagree, if for no other reason than mortar and brick schools are a so obviously a thing of the past, like a lot of things the Internet fossilized. And that&#8217;s without even getting to and considering the ubiquitous multitudes public education failures.  Online learning is in the process of transforming primary education.  Kids learn more in 2 hours or less online what they sit through in class all day to supposedly learn.</p>
<p>Merely being a publicly-paid babysitter won&#8217;t be enough to save public education.  </p>
<p>Private schools as we know them are too expensive for most people.  </p>
<p>Vouchers seems like a good idea, until you wrap your head around the fact that if we allow Christian schools and Jewish academies to be paid by vouchers, then by virtue of the 1st Amendment we cannot stop Islamic madrassas from also receiving them.  Quite frankly, that all by itself completely chilled me on the idea of vouchers.</p>
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		By: JKB		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is useless to try to fight at the university or high school.  Those are lost, the kids will pass the class, but deep inside, they know it is all BS.  Not unlike when I was in school 30 years ago.  No one paid but passing, as in grade, attention to English class after 9th grade because it was all BS.  

But we have the technology to expose those who have some ability to learn to the truth.  Being exposed to another narrative will give them a place to learn by contrasting and comparing.  

I just read a great book that summarizes our government and out heritage very well.  I learned a lot, so that tells you how worthless history education has been for 30 years.  

Civil Government in the United States by John Fiske.  

Fair warning, you may suspect him of being a Tea Partier even though he died in 1901.  

&lt;blockquote&gt;But if we Americans were to set about giving to the state governments things to do that had better be done by counties and towns, and giving the federal government things to do that had better be done by the states, it would not take many generations to dull the keen edge of our political capacity. We should lose it as inevitably as the most consummate of pianists will lose his facility if he stops practicing. It is therefore a fact of cardinal importance that in the United States the local governments of township, county, and city are left to administer themselves instead of being administered by a great bureau with its head at the state capital. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is useless to try to fight at the university or high school.  Those are lost, the kids will pass the class, but deep inside, they know it is all BS.  Not unlike when I was in school 30 years ago.  No one paid but passing, as in grade, attention to English class after 9th grade because it was all BS.  </p>
<p>But we have the technology to expose those who have some ability to learn to the truth.  Being exposed to another narrative will give them a place to learn by contrasting and comparing.  </p>
<p>I just read a great book that summarizes our government and out heritage very well.  I learned a lot, so that tells you how worthless history education has been for 30 years.  </p>
<p>Civil Government in the United States by John Fiske.  </p>
<p>Fair warning, you may suspect him of being a Tea Partier even though he died in 1901.  </p>
<blockquote><p>But if we Americans were to set about giving to the state governments things to do that had better be done by counties and towns, and giving the federal government things to do that had better be done by the states, it would not take many generations to dull the keen edge of our political capacity. We should lose it as inevitably as the most consummate of pianists will lose his facility if he stops practicing. It is therefore a fact of cardinal importance that in the United States the local governments of township, county, and city are left to administer themselves instead of being administered by a great bureau with its head at the state capital. </p></blockquote>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ymarsakar:

Home schooling will never be practiced by more than a small percentage of the population.  It is way too labor intensive, and one parent has to be home.

Private schools and vouchers would have more of a chance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ymarsakar:</p>
<p>Home schooling will never be practiced by more than a small percentage of the population.  It is way too labor intensive, and one parent has to be home.</p>
<p>Private schools and vouchers would have more of a chance.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/26/its-time-to-boycott-ap-history/#comment-818948</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And of course, the elites in the US only have their children go to private schools or those with high status like Ivy League. But they intentionally block people in public schools from moving, by denying Vouchers. That&#039;s why Hussein&#039;s two children go to private school in DC, not public. It helps keep the riff raff out of American success and the halls of power.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And of course, the elites in the US only have their children go to private schools or those with high status like Ivy League. But they intentionally block people in public schools from moving, by denying Vouchers. That&#8217;s why Hussein&#8217;s two children go to private school in DC, not public. It helps keep the riff raff out of American success and the halls of power.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo, vouchers and adopting a privatized system would allow more competition, and support for home schooling.

This is exactly why the Left has a strategic objective to destroy vouchers and dismantle home schooling.

Japan seems to have a lot more private schools, so they can adapt and transform school policy based upon the students and area they serve. Without federal interference, since the money is not in federal or gov hands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo, vouchers and adopting a privatized system would allow more competition, and support for home schooling.</p>
<p>This is exactly why the Left has a strategic objective to destroy vouchers and dismantle home schooling.</p>
<p>Japan seems to have a lot more private schools, so they can adapt and transform school policy based upon the students and area they serve. Without federal interference, since the money is not in federal or gov hands.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2014 18:31:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr:

I know people on the right in academia who are still fighting the left there, and they are able to have careers.  It depends where you go.  I agree that it&#039;s very very hard.  Note also that I said it is a good idea to work to build more colleges such as Hillsdale, which are not leftist.  A professor on the right can find a home there and be quite comfortable.  I don&#039;t think ceding the field is a good idea, which is not to say I don&#039;t understand the problems of someone on the right trying to make it in academia.

I have gotten emails from people all over the world who are in academia and on the right, and they feel they must go incognito, so I&#039;m quite aware of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr:</p>
<p>I know people on the right in academia who are still fighting the left there, and they are able to have careers.  It depends where you go.  I agree that it&#8217;s very very hard.  Note also that I said it is a good idea to work to build more colleges such as Hillsdale, which are not leftist.  A professor on the right can find a home there and be quite comfortable.  I don&#8217;t think ceding the field is a good idea, which is not to say I don&#8217;t understand the problems of someone on the right trying to make it in academia.</p>
<p>I have gotten emails from people all over the world who are in academia and on the right, and they feel they must go incognito, so I&#8217;m quite aware of it.</p>
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