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		By: david7134		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gail,
You hit the nail on the head. I was watching the coverage of this and it struck me that the people protesting were not doing so because of the shooting. It is clear that the thug that was shot was headed that way and I am sure his neighbors would likely agree once the emotion is gone. Then this is really not a black/white issue. The cop was white but time will tell that his shooting was justified and the people who are protesting know this. So why are people protesting? I think it has to do with the total, complete failure of the first black president and the total let down by the Democrat party. Some clues to this. The neighborhood is over represented by white people. This is associated with a black voter turnout of 6%. Why is this? Likely because the area is represented by the Democrats and the locals do not feel that they need to elect anyone of their race as the politicians have been promising more than a black politician could. The problem is that delivery on a national, state and local stage has not materialized. I did see that giveaways have been instituted to mollify the emotions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail,<br />
You hit the nail on the head. I was watching the coverage of this and it struck me that the people protesting were not doing so because of the shooting. It is clear that the thug that was shot was headed that way and I am sure his neighbors would likely agree once the emotion is gone. Then this is really not a black/white issue. The cop was white but time will tell that his shooting was justified and the people who are protesting know this. So why are people protesting? I think it has to do with the total, complete failure of the first black president and the total let down by the Democrat party. Some clues to this. The neighborhood is over represented by white people. This is associated with a black voter turnout of 6%. Why is this? Likely because the area is represented by the Democrats and the locals do not feel that they need to elect anyone of their race as the politicians have been promising more than a black politician could. The problem is that delivery on a national, state and local stage has not materialized. I did see that giveaways have been instituted to mollify the emotions.</p>
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		By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#039;s Cove		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 15:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/21/other-cases-of-killings-by-police-that-have-been-ignored/#comment-817512</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Uncle Bill:

I don&#039;t have time to find the link right now, but I read it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uncle Bill:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have time to find the link right now, but I read it.</p>
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		By: Uncle Bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 00:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have read that female police officers are more likely to use deadly force (i.e., firearms) than male police officers because they do not have the physical strength to subdue violent subjects.  Has anyone else heard or read about this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read that female police officers are more likely to use deadly force (i.e., firearms) than male police officers because they do not have the physical strength to subdue violent subjects.  Has anyone else heard or read about this?</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 21:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Southpaw(10:02pm)...AMEN,&#039;Yo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Southpaw(10:02pm)&#8230;AMEN,&#8217;Yo.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 16:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[while not a cop killing:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Bloody riots continue in Ferguson, Mo, after the killing of a black teenager, but all is quiet in Miami after the murder of a visiting rabbi.

Obama is on the case. Eric Holder has been dispatched to the St. Louis suburb to personally take charge of the investigation as to what led to the police shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown, who prior to being shot was caught in the act of strong-arming a convenience store worker. This is on tape and has been broadcast widely.

Dozens of arrests have been made during the nearly two weeks of violent unrest and looting.

Windows have been smashed. Businesses are padlocked. Schools are closed. A city is burning. The president has asked for calm from both sides, from the rioters and from the police, which places those who break the law and those who protect the law on the same footing.

From outside of town in New York, where he doubles as Gotham’s mayor, Al Sharpton quickly got dressed and arrived on the Ferguson scene promptly.

A grand jury is scheduled to begin hearings.

The officer has been identified, but remains in seclusion, perhaps for his safety. We don’t know his side of the story. We don’t know what happened.

That’s for Holder and his 50 lawyers to find out, plus the grand jury, in addition to multiple probes underway from local, county and state authorities.

When a group of Black Panthers intimidated white voters in Philadelphia, Holder saw no reason to intervene or investigate....................&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15544#.U_d1FM58GsQ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>while not a cop killing:</p>
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Bloody riots continue in Ferguson, Mo, after the killing of a black teenager, but all is quiet in Miami after the murder of a visiting rabbi.</p>
<p>Obama is on the case. Eric Holder has been dispatched to the St. Louis suburb to personally take charge of the investigation as to what led to the police shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown, who prior to being shot was caught in the act of strong-arming a convenience store worker. This is on tape and has been broadcast widely.</p>
<p>Dozens of arrests have been made during the nearly two weeks of violent unrest and looting.</p>
<p>Windows have been smashed. Businesses are padlocked. Schools are closed. A city is burning. The president has asked for calm from both sides, from the rioters and from the police, which places those who break the law and those who protect the law on the same footing.</p>
<p>From outside of town in New York, where he doubles as Gotham’s mayor, Al Sharpton quickly got dressed and arrived on the Ferguson scene promptly.</p>
<p>A grand jury is scheduled to begin hearings.</p>
<p>The officer has been identified, but remains in seclusion, perhaps for his safety. We don’t know his side of the story. We don’t know what happened.</p>
<p>That’s for Holder and his 50 lawyers to find out, plus the grand jury, in addition to multiple probes underway from local, county and state authorities.</p>
<p>When a group of Black Panthers intimidated white voters in Philadelphia, Holder saw no reason to intervene or investigate&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15544#.U_d1FM58GsQ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/15544#.U_d1FM58GsQ</a></p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 15:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Gail is troubled that &quot;the people who are left are poor, desperate, and – many of them – likely to have short lives.&quot;

All of which misses the mark. They are many things, ignorant, stupid, hostile and disgusting in their personal lives, but surely not desperate. The old poverty thing is BS pure and simple, after $21 Trillion into the War On Poverty. Their short lives are due to their own violence and their own self-neglect and self-abuse, their breeding and child-raising habits.

When you live a Big Lie, the truth will eventually catch up and bite you in the ass pretty hard. These people are not like us and will never be like us. Pretending so won&#039;t make it so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gail is troubled that &#8220;the people who are left are poor, desperate, and – many of them – likely to have short lives.&#8221;</p>
<p>All of which misses the mark. They are many things, ignorant, stupid, hostile and disgusting in their personal lives, but surely not desperate. The old poverty thing is BS pure and simple, after $21 Trillion into the War On Poverty. Their short lives are due to their own violence and their own self-neglect and self-abuse, their breeding and child-raising habits.</p>
<p>When you live a Big Lie, the truth will eventually catch up and bite you in the ass pretty hard. These people are not like us and will never be like us. Pretending so won&#8217;t make it so.</p>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[this isnt by a police officer... so it doesnt &quot;count&quot;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Antonio Smith, 9 years old, was assassinated the other day. He was Chicago&#039;s youngest fatal shooting victim this year. He was shot at least four times and fell in a backyard on the South Side. And when I went out there on 71st and Woodlawn less than 24 hours after he was murdered, here&#039;s what I didn&#039;t see: I didn&#039;t see protesters waving their hands in the air for network TV cameras. I didn&#039;t see the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson playing their usual roles in the political race card game...&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this isnt by a police officer&#8230; so it doesnt &#8220;count&#8221;</p>
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Antonio Smith, 9 years old, was assassinated the other day. He was Chicago&#8217;s youngest fatal shooting victim this year. He was shot at least four times and fell in a backyard on the South Side. And when I went out there on 71st and Woodlawn less than 24 hours after he was murdered, here&#8217;s what I didn&#8217;t see: I didn&#8217;t see protesters waving their hands in the air for network TV cameras. I didn&#8217;t see the Revs. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson playing their usual roles in the political race card game&#8230;</p></blockquote>
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		By: Artfldgr		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 14:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;As a way to smack down Democrat propagandists, ask them where they were protesting when Ruby Ridge and WACO massacres occurred.&lt;/i&gt;

same place they were when Stalin murdered his own and sold us the grain... and Mao... and Vietnamese boat people... and Bezlan, and on and on.. 

mostly celebrating... 
i hear they like the party hats...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As a way to smack down Democrat propagandists, ask them where they were protesting when Ruby Ridge and WACO massacres occurred.</i></p>
<p>same place they were when Stalin murdered his own and sold us the grain&#8230; and Mao&#8230; and Vietnamese boat people&#8230; and Bezlan, and on and on.. </p>
<p>mostly celebrating&#8230;<br />
i hear they like the party hats&#8230;</p>
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		By: Gail Finke		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2014 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I once took a class from a great teacher and priest who said that whenever people are emotional in a way that does not fit the facts, they are emotional about something different, an underlying issue, usually a way of looking at things or understanding the world, and that if you don&#039;t address that underlying thing then nothing gets accomplished. I think that is what&#039;s going on in this and similar cases. 

The facts are quite easy to see and ascertain -- more than 50% of people killed by police are white, for instance. The number one cause of death for black men is homicide, and more than 90% of the time they are killed by other black men. More than half of all black babies conceived are never born. 

What people are upset about, I think, is that they KNOW this. They know that despite decades of promises and programs and speeches, the African Americans who have succeeded (and there are many) seem to have pretty much vanished from &quot;black&quot; communities, and the people who are left are poor, desperate, and -- many of them -- likely to have short lives. Drug abuse, abortion, abandonment by parents, crime, etc., are all constant threats they know and live with. And then when a police officer shoots a person who is not in the middle of a crime, people think with their guts: &quot;We&#039;re not safe anywhere! We can&#039;t even walk down the street!&quot; It&#039;s a last straw kind of thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once took a class from a great teacher and priest who said that whenever people are emotional in a way that does not fit the facts, they are emotional about something different, an underlying issue, usually a way of looking at things or understanding the world, and that if you don&#8217;t address that underlying thing then nothing gets accomplished. I think that is what&#8217;s going on in this and similar cases. </p>
<p>The facts are quite easy to see and ascertain &#8212; more than 50% of people killed by police are white, for instance. The number one cause of death for black men is homicide, and more than 90% of the time they are killed by other black men. More than half of all black babies conceived are never born. </p>
<p>What people are upset about, I think, is that they KNOW this. They know that despite decades of promises and programs and speeches, the African Americans who have succeeded (and there are many) seem to have pretty much vanished from &#8220;black&#8221; communities, and the people who are left are poor, desperate, and &#8212; many of them &#8212; likely to have short lives. Drug abuse, abortion, abandonment by parents, crime, etc., are all constant threats they know and live with. And then when a police officer shoots a person who is not in the middle of a crime, people think with their guts: &#8220;We&#8217;re not safe anywhere! We can&#8217;t even walk down the street!&#8221; It&#8217;s a last straw kind of thing.</p>
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