I don’t think that today society, as a whole, is any more restrained by PC considerations when faced with mass atrocities. That’s why the western press goes to such great lengths to prevent their citizens from seeing radical Islamists like ISIS as they truly are. They’re afraid that if we saw the unvarnished truth we’d panic and lash out like slow children. We might do something uncivilized like having unkind thoughts about people who celebrate beheadings. And then, as they’ll tell you at every opportunity, We’d Be Just As Bad As Them.

neo-neocon Says:
August 20th, 2014 at 1:06 am

Mike O’Malley:

There are some atrocities in all wars. That’s not the same as a behavior being the norm in the community in which you are raised. That was the point I was refuting.

Yes, and thank you for posting about the Iraqi TV commentator crying about ISIS’s mistreatment of Iraqi Christians.

I feel moved to add that hideous genocidal behavior is not limited strictly to wartime and certainly not to Muslim societies. The English behaved similarly in Catholic Ireland during the Elizabethan, Cromwellian and post Cromwellian periods. The English even engaged in mass terroristic beheadings of Catholic Irish populations, men women and children on no few occasion. Of course there is the example of the French Revolution with the Terror and the anti-Catholic genocide in Vendee. One could go on however in this case with ISIS in Iraq one has to wonder whether the behavior is characteristic of societies informed by Sharia. Lynching Blacks in the Jim Crowe South was not the norm either however lynching was characteristic of the pre-civil rights South and imbedded in a normative culture of racism and general mistreatment of African Americans. Andrew Bostom has posted a report about the participation local Sunni tribes in acts of genocide with ISIS against religious minority populations in Iraq that could have been written a century ago.

It seems to me that COIN OIF is different than COIN OEF. COIN OIF was building peace through strength – security, stability, and the dominant control to define the peace on our terms.

COIN OIF involved an aggressive spread of US forces among the populace, turning them to our side, and together, killing a lot of terrorists.

COIN OEF seems to involve a lot of shrink back, separating from the locals, and leaving terrorists to build for our departure and define the peace on their terms.

Now I believe it is essential and necessary to understanding the time we are in.

Most people didn’t understand much of anything about the Nazis. They were repeating programmed agit prop the Soviets developed, with the aid of Roosevelt. They knew nothing about the Soviet-Nazi pact. They knew nothing about the division of Poland.

These days because people are either being Nazis or facing them personally, it’s much easier to now talk about stuff people understand. Because they are doing it now, they can understand what people did back then too.

Good job putting the fanatic in her place. Many of them spout off nonsense because that’s their way of proselytizing their faith. But they aren’t nearly as polite about it as the Mormons and Witnesses.

Showing her that you aren’t an easy target and have an equal strength of belief, or a stronger one, generally makes people re-evaluate you.

Islam has been at war with the West since 650. We’ve had a nice 350-year hiatus since the Gates of Vienna, but now they’re back full force. My only hope is that we can hold out for another 2 1/2 years and then elect a Reagan.

beheading is considered humane
what they are doing is actually against the Koran, in that they cut the front of the throat first, and its supposed to be the back.

5:33-“The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;”

and execution shouold be by beheading with a sharp instrument, and from the back of the neck not the front

8:12- “I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.”

47:4- “Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers, strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives”: thereafter either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens

9:123: “Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.

2:191- “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.

5: 45– “We ordained therein for them: “Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Toth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.

9:29- “Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day… and fight People of the Book, who do not accept the religion of truth until they pay tribute by hand, being inferior.”

[they see welfare as a form of Zizziya]

8:17-It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God’s…..

take some time to read
“Sirat A, Rasul” page 464
and
Sahi Buchari Hadiths #143, page-700
in the war of Khaiber after the inhabitants of Banu Qurayza was surrendered, Allah’s apostle killed all the able/adult men, and he took all women and children as captives Among the captives Rayhana a beautiful young Jewish girl was taken by Allah’s Apostle as booty whom He married after freeing her and her freedom was her Mohr.”