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		By: BurkeanMama		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811696</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BurkeanMama]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think what Obama thinks has ever mattered.  He handed health care over to Pelosi and Reid.  His foreign policy seems to mostly be contrived by Valerie Jarret.  He golfs, fundraises, blames Bush.  He is the big giant head blowing smoke, he is not the man behind the curtain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think what Obama thinks has ever mattered.  He handed health care over to Pelosi and Reid.  His foreign policy seems to mostly be contrived by Valerie Jarret.  He golfs, fundraises, blames Bush.  He is the big giant head blowing smoke, he is not the man behind the curtain.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811552</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 11:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[M J R: &quot;I have read numerous serious, albeit intermittently entertaining, pieces centering on speculating just what it might take to convince the Democrats to turn on the incumbent.
 
I have yet to find one convincing.&quot;

You won&#039;t ever go broke betting on their dedication and ability to rationalize.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M J R: &#8220;I have read numerous serious, albeit intermittently entertaining, pieces centering on speculating just what it might take to convince the Democrats to turn on the incumbent.</p>
<p>I have yet to find one convincing.&#8221;</p>
<p>You won&#8217;t ever go broke betting on their dedication and ability to rationalize.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811417</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 05:10:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia, 5:09 pm -- &quot;Here is a question, if this &#039;bombing campaign&#039; has the effect I foresee, that is, none, and the result is a genocide of Yazidi and Kurdish peoples, will the Democrats finally turn on this knave?&quot;

I have read numerous serious, albeit intermittently entertaining, pieces centering on speculating just what it might take to convince the Democrats to turn on the incumbent.

I have yet to find one convincing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob From Virginia, 5:09 pm &#8212; &#8220;Here is a question, if this &#8216;bombing campaign&#8217; has the effect I foresee, that is, none, and the result is a genocide of Yazidi and Kurdish peoples, will the Democrats finally turn on this knave?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have read numerous serious, albeit intermittently entertaining, pieces centering on speculating just what it might take to convince the Democrats to turn on the incumbent.</p>
<p>I have yet to find one convincing.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811395</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 03:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[GB,

I do not doubt that the boy king and 90% of democrats think we on the right side of the bell curve are &#039;enemies of the state&#039; and in this they are correct. We are the enemy. We oppose their agenda. We insist on being free of their oppression. We recognize they are the enemy that wishes to deny us of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We will have to wait a while, no more than a few years, to see how much blood and gore they are willing to expend once push comes to shove.

Meanwhile,  I continue to buy powder and primers and cast bullets from wheel weights and other sources of scrap lead.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB,</p>
<p>I do not doubt that the boy king and 90% of democrats think we on the right side of the bell curve are &#8216;enemies of the state&#8217; and in this they are correct. We are the enemy. We oppose their agenda. We insist on being free of their oppression. We recognize they are the enemy that wishes to deny us of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. We will have to wait a while, no more than a few years, to see how much blood and gore they are willing to expend once push comes to shove.</p>
<p>Meanwhile,  I continue to buy powder and primers and cast bullets from wheel weights and other sources of scrap lead.</p>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2014 00:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Bho agitates for strife and division here at home, I can not think of a good reason why he does not do the same abroad.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; parker 

Obama &quot;agitates for strife and division here at home&quot; because he believes that the Western domestic right are the real enemy, not misguided jihadists and misguided criminals. He believes we are the real enemy because it is we who are preventing them from leading the &#039;misguided&#039; to the light of understanding… which they as the elite have been granted by their &lt;i&gt;demonstrated nature&lt;/i&gt;. 

How&#039;s that for narcissistic insecurity?

Obama is sympathetic to our enemies because he believes their complaints and hostility toward us are valid and justified. He agrees with George Soros’ view that, &lt;i&gt;“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.”&lt;/i&gt; Obama believes that the UN should lead in all cases of foreign disputes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Bho agitates for strife and division here at home, I can not think of a good reason why he does not do the same abroad.&#8221;</i> parker </p>
<p>Obama &#8220;agitates for strife and division here at home&#8221; because he believes that the Western domestic right are the real enemy, not misguided jihadists and misguided criminals. He believes we are the real enemy because it is we who are preventing them from leading the &#8216;misguided&#8217; to the light of understanding… which they as the elite have been granted by their <i>demonstrated nature</i>. </p>
<p>How&#8217;s that for narcissistic insecurity?</p>
<p>Obama is sympathetic to our enemies because he believes their complaints and hostility toward us are valid and justified. He agrees with George Soros’ view that, <i>“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.”</i> Obama believes that the UN should lead in all cases of foreign disputes.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811305</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2014 23:31:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bho agitates for strife and division here at home, I can not think of a good reason why he does not do the same abroad. Chaos off shore and his willingness to &quot;lead from behind&quot; weakens America, emboldens the bad players, and demoralizes our allies. From chaos and a new caliphate in the ME along with the shoddy treatment of Israel we can pivot to Putin&#039;s bold push in Europe and pivot again to China pushing into the South  China Sea. Meanwhile the messiah pivots from vacuous press appearances to fund raising to golfing and vacations. The boy king is an expert at pivoting and lying his ass off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bho agitates for strife and division here at home, I can not think of a good reason why he does not do the same abroad. Chaos off shore and his willingness to &#8220;lead from behind&#8221; weakens America, emboldens the bad players, and demoralizes our allies. From chaos and a new caliphate in the ME along with the shoddy treatment of Israel we can pivot to Putin&#8217;s bold push in Europe and pivot again to China pushing into the South  China Sea. Meanwhile the messiah pivots from vacuous press appearances to fund raising to golfing and vacations. The boy king is an expert at pivoting and lying his ass off.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2014 23:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey, I agree that the official Saudi government didn&#039;t support them, but some of the wealthy Saudi fundamentalist sheiks may have. 

Qatar is an interesting case.  We have a big military base there and they were our allies during OIF. They have begun to play the duplicitous role of cunning Muslims - two faced  and untrustworthy. Why we don&#039;t get out of there and move our base to Kuwait is a question I have. They also host and fund al Jazzera - that loving voice of  Muslim peace. :-( 

Eric, I was saying that Obama seems to believe that, if Maliki would  just make nice with the Sunnis and Kurds,  ISIS would fade away. I don&#039;t think that&#039;s the case.  ISIS is much more malignant than al Qaeda and has bigger ambitions. Anyone who can&#039;t see that picture is, IMO, naé¯ve.  

There are Sunnis in Iraq who are not supporters of ISIS, but Maliki has cut them out of the picture. Note that the Kurds, who are Sunnis, have not been getting the arms and ammo that Shia groups have gotten.  That&#039;s one reason why things are so bad around Irbil. The Kurds will fight, but they need beans and bullets.  We could supply them, and provide air cover. But we  won&#039;t. He&#039;s waiting for Maliki to &quot;do the right thing.&quot;

Obama has this idea that  these poor, backward countries/terror groups are no threat to us. After all, we have the &quot;Golden Fleece&quot; (Our economy) and that makes us untouchable.  Back in March  President Obama acknowledged that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea  would be difficult to reverse, but he dismissed Russia as a “regional power” that did not pose a leading security threat to the United States. The fact that they have nukes with ICBMs that can deliver them does not seem to bother him.  He&#039;s got it  all figured out. We&#039;re in the very best of hands.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey, I agree that the official Saudi government didn&#8217;t support them, but some of the wealthy Saudi fundamentalist sheiks may have. </p>
<p>Qatar is an interesting case.  We have a big military base there and they were our allies during OIF. They have begun to play the duplicitous role of cunning Muslims &#8211; two faced  and untrustworthy. Why we don&#8217;t get out of there and move our base to Kuwait is a question I have. They also host and fund al Jazzera &#8211; that loving voice of  Muslim peace. 🙁 </p>
<p>Eric, I was saying that Obama seems to believe that, if Maliki would  just make nice with the Sunnis and Kurds,  ISIS would fade away. I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s the case.  ISIS is much more malignant than al Qaeda and has bigger ambitions. Anyone who can&#8217;t see that picture is, IMO, naé¯ve.  </p>
<p>There are Sunnis in Iraq who are not supporters of ISIS, but Maliki has cut them out of the picture. Note that the Kurds, who are Sunnis, have not been getting the arms and ammo that Shia groups have gotten.  That&#8217;s one reason why things are so bad around Irbil. The Kurds will fight, but they need beans and bullets.  We could supply them, and provide air cover. But we  won&#8217;t. He&#8217;s waiting for Maliki to &#8220;do the right thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama has this idea that  these poor, backward countries/terror groups are no threat to us. After all, we have the &#8220;Golden Fleece&#8221; (Our economy) and that makes us untouchable.  Back in March  President Obama acknowledged that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s annexation of Crimea  would be difficult to reverse, but he dismissed Russia as a “regional power” that did not pose a leading security threat to the United States. The fact that they have nukes with ICBMs that can deliver them does not seem to bother him.  He&#8217;s got it  all figured out. We&#8217;re in the very best of hands.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811278</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2014 22:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain:

I make a point much like that in &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2014/08/08/peace-prize-in-our-times/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this post&lt;/a&gt;, written after the one we&#039;re commenting on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain:</p>
<p>I make a point much like that in <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2014/08/08/peace-prize-in-our-times/" rel="nofollow">this post</a>, written after the one we&#8217;re commenting on.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811259</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2014 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain: &quot;Don’t you realize by now that Obama is a ‘peacemaker’ not a ‘war monger’&quot;

To Obama, what&#039;s happening with Iraq falls under &quot;ending the war&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain: &#8220;Don’t you realize by now that Obama is a ‘peacemaker’ not a ‘war monger’&#8221;</p>
<p>To Obama, what&#8217;s happening with Iraq falls under &#8220;ending the war&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/08/08/john-hinderaker-on-obamas-bombing-announcement/#comment-811256</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2014 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[JJ,

There&#039;s a &quot;larger crisis&quot; in Iraq? What did Obama say that is? If he&#039;s implying that ISIS is ultimately just regular ol&#039; Sunni-Shia conflict, that matches the lead rationalization for non-intervention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JJ,</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a &#8220;larger crisis&#8221; in Iraq? What did Obama say that is? If he&#8217;s implying that ISIS is ultimately just regular ol&#8217; Sunni-Shia conflict, that matches the lead rationalization for non-intervention.</p>
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