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		By: The Maple Syrup diet		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Maple Syrup diet]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks on your marvelous posting! I genuinely enjoyed reading it, you may be a 
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		By: Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#039;s Cove		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sorta Blogless Sunday Pinup &#187; Pirate&#039;s Cove]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2014 14:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] neo-neocon has the history of Jim Crow [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Pat D		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pat D]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 03:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tim Scott is the name to throw in the faces of the Dems who say Southern Republicans are racist. He won his primary for Senator with 90% of the vote.

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/06/11/senator-tim-scott-wins-huge-victory-in-primary-left-goes-on-the-attack/

His story should be an inspiration to all Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim Scott is the name to throw in the faces of the Dems who say Southern Republicans are racist. He won his primary for Senator with 90% of the vote.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tpnn.com/2014/06/11/senator-tim-scott-wins-huge-victory-in-primary-left-goes-on-the-attack/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.tpnn.com/2014/06/11/senator-tim-scott-wins-huge-victory-in-primary-left-goes-on-the-attack/</a></p>
<p>His story should be an inspiration to all Americans.</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2014 02:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I just scroll through posts that are &quot;too long.&quot;
I have a feeling I&#039;m missing something from Art&#039;s posts, but I can&#039;t make it through them.

Art, tighten that shit up, if you can.

Life is unfair. People are ignorant (including myself). Life goes on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just scroll through posts that are &#8220;too long.&#8221;<br />
I have a feeling I&#8217;m missing something from Art&#8217;s posts, but I can&#8217;t make it through them.</p>
<p>Art, tighten that shit up, if you can.</p>
<p>Life is unfair. People are ignorant (including myself). Life goes on.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[parker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 23:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Any post beyond 50 lines is like a poem of similar length,  filled with pretentious blather and combustible gas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any post beyond 50 lines is like a poem of similar length,  filled with pretentious blather and combustible gas.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 22:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In one of my ventures, I work in a business that is completely color-blind and open to anyone. The only criteria is being able to do the job, and that ipso-facto requires a brain, hard work, tenacity, responsibility, etc.

It is a total meritocracy in the sense that the only thing you have to be able to do is the job, and if you can do it that is all that matters, period, end of story. Everyone who can do the job respects and admires the others who can do it because they know it is a tough job.

There are at that place every day: white men, white women, black men, black women, Indian man, an Indian woman, people from all parts of Russia and Ukraine and the various &quot;stans, Muslims from assorted areas from Egypt to Africa to Turkey, etc, at least one Jewish worker, several from the continent of Africa, from the Caribbean Islands, from Mexico and other South American countries. Practically every so-called &quot;race&quot; and so-called &quot;ethnicity&quot; is represented there.

Though everyone there is best served by free markets and lower taxes and nearly everything Republican, the majority probably vote along the expected lines.

The power of propaganda and peer pressure and group pressure is huge. Simply huge.

The end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In one of my ventures, I work in a business that is completely color-blind and open to anyone. The only criteria is being able to do the job, and that ipso-facto requires a brain, hard work, tenacity, responsibility, etc.</p>
<p>It is a total meritocracy in the sense that the only thing you have to be able to do is the job, and if you can do it that is all that matters, period, end of story. Everyone who can do the job respects and admires the others who can do it because they know it is a tough job.</p>
<p>There are at that place every day: white men, white women, black men, black women, Indian man, an Indian woman, people from all parts of Russia and Ukraine and the various &#8220;stans, Muslims from assorted areas from Egypt to Africa to Turkey, etc, at least one Jewish worker, several from the continent of Africa, from the Caribbean Islands, from Mexico and other South American countries. Practically every so-called &#8220;race&#8221; and so-called &#8220;ethnicity&#8221; is represented there.</p>
<p>Though everyone there is best served by free markets and lower taxes and nearly everything Republican, the majority probably vote along the expected lines.</p>
<p>The power of propaganda and peer pressure and group pressure is huge. Simply huge.</p>
<p>The end.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 20:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo . . .

Thanks for your patient and gracious response.  Please know that I appreciate that you indeed  live a &quot;non-blog life&quot;, and I certainly appreciate all that you do here in your blog-life.

Take care,
M J R]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo . . .</p>
<p>Thanks for your patient and gracious response.  Please know that I appreciate that you indeed  live a &#8220;non-blog life&#8221;, and I certainly appreciate all that you do here in your blog-life.</p>
<p>Take care,<br />
M J R</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:22:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[kolnai:

Thanks for the book suggestions.  Sound fascinating!]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for the book suggestions.  Sound fascinating!</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:21:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[To MJR and Artfldgr:

I&#039;ve written before that I don&#039;t want the comments section to feature feuds between commenters of a personal nature.

MJR&#039;s concerns have been voiced by many in the past, and the way I deal with overlong posts and/or too many posts by one commenter, whoever it might be, is to edit for length and/or to delete some.  However, some days I am more busy with non-blog life and I am away from my computer for very long periods of time.  I am especially busy right now, have been for the past few days, and will be off and on, off and on, for the next couple of weeks.  So there have been intermittent stretches of time when I can&#039;t do the monitoring I usually do.  Most of the time, though, I am able to do it and continue to do it.

The reason is that the flow of the comments section is a part of what makes a blog readable for people.  

I have had many back and forth discussions in the comments section about a number of commenters, and Artfldgr is one of them because his comments are sometimes objected to by other commenters (mainly in terms of length).  My solution has been to edit for length (which is neither difficult to do nor especially time-consuming), with the aforementioned limitations when my time and attention are elsewhere.  I continue to feel that Artfldgr has a unique and interesting perspective as well as access to a lot of information which some people may find relevant and/or interesting.  Therefore his contributions here, while controversial and not always containing thoughts with which I agree, have some value, IMHO. 

So my solution is to continue to edit for length and for redundancy any commenter who I believe exceeds the limits of what is conducive to a good flow in the comments section.  In general I tend to err somewhat on the side of generosity.  It is a judgment call re balance, and naturally I don&#039;t always achieve it.

I request that everyone refrain from name-calling and insulting each other egregiously, realizing of course that we&#039;re not all going to hold hands and sing kumbaya.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To MJR and Artfldgr:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve written before that I don&#8217;t want the comments section to feature feuds between commenters of a personal nature.</p>
<p>MJR&#8217;s concerns have been voiced by many in the past, and the way I deal with overlong posts and/or too many posts by one commenter, whoever it might be, is to edit for length and/or to delete some.  However, some days I am more busy with non-blog life and I am away from my computer for very long periods of time.  I am especially busy right now, have been for the past few days, and will be off and on, off and on, for the next couple of weeks.  So there have been intermittent stretches of time when I can&#8217;t do the monitoring I usually do.  Most of the time, though, I am able to do it and continue to do it.</p>
<p>The reason is that the flow of the comments section is a part of what makes a blog readable for people.  </p>
<p>I have had many back and forth discussions in the comments section about a number of commenters, and Artfldgr is one of them because his comments are sometimes objected to by other commenters (mainly in terms of length).  My solution has been to edit for length (which is neither difficult to do nor especially time-consuming), with the aforementioned limitations when my time and attention are elsewhere.  I continue to feel that Artfldgr has a unique and interesting perspective as well as access to a lot of information which some people may find relevant and/or interesting.  Therefore his contributions here, while controversial and not always containing thoughts with which I agree, have some value, IMHO. </p>
<p>So my solution is to continue to edit for length and for redundancy any commenter who I believe exceeds the limits of what is conducive to a good flow in the comments section.  In general I tend to err somewhat on the side of generosity.  It is a judgment call re balance, and naturally I don&#8217;t always achieve it.</p>
<p>I request that everyone refrain from name-calling and insulting each other egregiously, realizing of course that we&#8217;re not all going to hold hands and sing kumbaya.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The underlying argument is that: To not become a self-abnegating collectivist, is in itself to be a &lt;i&gt;de facto&lt;/i&gt; racist.

To prefer your own children, or to work preserve your own life or good, rather than to actively sacrifice for another&#039;s - perhaps even antithetical - good, is considered as &lt;i&gt;prima facie&lt;/i&gt; evidence of your racism.

This does not however, as the dashed proviso shows, imply that the left asserts that the concept of &quot;good&quot; is fundamentally distributive across the political population as a whole, or refers to some objective or universally trans-personal state of affairs.

The left actually seems to have quietly [first in theory then in &quot;science&quot;] accepted some some form of Human Biodiversity premise: leading to a principle wherein the good of some is explicitly recognized as not necessarily being the (same) good of others. In fact both the Marxist &quot;From each, to each&quot; principle, and the claim that the &quot;essence&quot; of man was to be found in, or in his place within, his mode of production, as well as modern relativism now, implies this logical asymmetry. And with it an intellectual acceptance of the diversity of the form and substance of the good, as a general interpretive principle.

The unsolvable social and interpersonal reciprocity problem is the result.

So, the real issue is not who now exists and how justice is to be achieved (since &quot;justices&quot; like mileage appear to differ with the genetic vehicle), but who and what shall eventually remain of the human species and the &quot;social reproduction system&quot;  so that justice may be perfectly realized - after the leftists have completely had their way.

And frankly they seem to be making few bones about this particular point anymore.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;I cannot see how to reply to this charge without saying something like &lt;b&gt;&#039;There are credentials for admission to our democratic society, credentials which we liberals have been making more stringent &lt;/b&gt; by doing our best to excommunicate racists, male chauvinists, homophobes, and the like. You have to be educated in order to be a citizen of our society, a participant in our conversation, someone with whom we can envisage merging our horizons. So we are going to go right on trying to discredit you in the eyes of your children, trying to strip your fundamentalist religious community of dignity, trying to make your views seem silly rather than discussable. We are not so inclusivist as to tolerate intolerance such as yours.&#039; &quot; R. Rorty&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To be then, a self-directing self is to be a racist. The so-called &quot;racists&quot; must be, following Rorty&#039;s imagery, systematically and progressively (no pun intended) deprived of their present social and legal standing to have and to keep both their social standing and their access to gaining exchange value, through politically progressive managerial acts and social pressures. The conservative or libertarian human sub-type must eventually be eliminated or broken in order to, as progressives say, &quot;gain the world that we dream&quot;.

The progressive therefore will use the agency of politics to eliminate certain human subtypes in the name of eliminating the horrible notion that there are human sub-types. 

Once we are all just part of one giant amoeba reproducing itself as part of the &quot;inorganic body&quot;, then bliss and the end of history will certainly ensue.

&quot;Libertarianism has historically rejected the idea that the needs of one person impose a moral duty upon others ...&quot;

http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0042366


(By the way, the article cited does not advance the progressive political aim I described above, it simply shows that the principle of inherently divergent &quot;needs&quot; and desires is becoming more explicitly recognized, argued, and theoretically grounded among progressives, some of whom may only have previously entertained these notions as  philosophical premisses lying suppressed beneath the rhetoric of differing abilities, and the maxim &quot; From each according to his abilities ... &quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The underlying argument is that: To not become a self-abnegating collectivist, is in itself to be a <i>de facto</i> racist.</p>
<p>To prefer your own children, or to work preserve your own life or good, rather than to actively sacrifice for another&#8217;s &#8211; perhaps even antithetical &#8211; good, is considered as <i>prima facie</i> evidence of your racism.</p>
<p>This does not however, as the dashed proviso shows, imply that the left asserts that the concept of &#8220;good&#8221; is fundamentally distributive across the political population as a whole, or refers to some objective or universally trans-personal state of affairs.</p>
<p>The left actually seems to have quietly [first in theory then in &#8220;science&#8221;] accepted some some form of Human Biodiversity premise: leading to a principle wherein the good of some is explicitly recognized as not necessarily being the (same) good of others. In fact both the Marxist &#8220;From each, to each&#8221; principle, and the claim that the &#8220;essence&#8221; of man was to be found in, or in his place within, his mode of production, as well as modern relativism now, implies this logical asymmetry. And with it an intellectual acceptance of the diversity of the form and substance of the good, as a general interpretive principle.</p>
<p>The unsolvable social and interpersonal reciprocity problem is the result.</p>
<p>So, the real issue is not who now exists and how justice is to be achieved (since &#8220;justices&#8221; like mileage appear to differ with the genetic vehicle), but who and what shall eventually remain of the human species and the &#8220;social reproduction system&#8221;  so that justice may be perfectly realized &#8211; after the leftists have completely had their way.</p>
<p>And frankly they seem to be making few bones about this particular point anymore.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;I cannot see how to reply to this charge without saying something like <b>&#8216;There are credentials for admission to our democratic society, credentials which we liberals have been making more stringent </b> by doing our best to excommunicate racists, male chauvinists, homophobes, and the like. You have to be educated in order to be a citizen of our society, a participant in our conversation, someone with whom we can envisage merging our horizons. So we are going to go right on trying to discredit you in the eyes of your children, trying to strip your fundamentalist religious community of dignity, trying to make your views seem silly rather than discussable. We are not so inclusivist as to tolerate intolerance such as yours.&#8217; &#8221; R. Rorty</p></blockquote>
<p>To be then, a self-directing self is to be a racist. The so-called &#8220;racists&#8221; must be, following Rorty&#8217;s imagery, systematically and progressively (no pun intended) deprived of their present social and legal standing to have and to keep both their social standing and their access to gaining exchange value, through politically progressive managerial acts and social pressures. The conservative or libertarian human sub-type must eventually be eliminated or broken in order to, as progressives say, &#8220;gain the world that we dream&#8221;.</p>
<p>The progressive therefore will use the agency of politics to eliminate certain human subtypes in the name of eliminating the horrible notion that there are human sub-types. </p>
<p>Once we are all just part of one giant amoeba reproducing itself as part of the &#8220;inorganic body&#8221;, then bliss and the end of history will certainly ensue.</p>
<p>&#8220;Libertarianism has historically rejected the idea that the needs of one person impose a moral duty upon others &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0042366" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0042366</a></p>
<p>(By the way, the article cited does not advance the progressive political aim I described above, it simply shows that the principle of inherently divergent &#8220;needs&#8221; and desires is becoming more explicitly recognized, argued, and theoretically grounded among progressives, some of whom may only have previously entertained these notions as  philosophical premisses lying suppressed beneath the rhetoric of differing abilities, and the maxim &#8221; From each according to his abilities &#8230; &#8220;)</p>
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