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		By: Cornflour		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/25/did-the-aca-framers-mean-to-limit-subsidies-to-state-exchanges/#comment-806782</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cornflour]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I often listen to NPR for the music.  Then, as the station goes back to propaganda, I almost pull a muscle reaching for the off-button.  Sometimes I&#039;m a little slow, and a few words leak through.

As a service to all the non-NPR listeners here, I&#039;ll relay the news:  if the Supreme Court confirms the Halbig decision, then Progressives expect States to set up small offices that would subcontract their State Obamacare exchanges to the Federal exchange.  In praise of Potemkin.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often listen to NPR for the music.  Then, as the station goes back to propaganda, I almost pull a muscle reaching for the off-button.  Sometimes I&#8217;m a little slow, and a few words leak through.</p>
<p>As a service to all the non-NPR listeners here, I&#8217;ll relay the news:  if the Supreme Court confirms the Halbig decision, then Progressives expect States to set up small offices that would subcontract their State Obamacare exchanges to the Federal exchange.  In praise of Potemkin.</p>
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		By: Paul in Boston		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul in Boston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A commenter at Legal Insurrection found this beauty!

http://www.hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/releases?ID=c4775d23-c814-40e1-b86d-4123b8e2ddd3

This is Sen. Hatch, rnaking Republican on the Senate Finance Comm., on 12/1/2011 in a letter to the Treasury pointing out that the law as written clearly states that subsidies can only go to exchanges established by the States not the Federal government.  Furthermore, the regulation as written is an unconstituional violation of the separation powers since it rewrites the law.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A commenter at Legal Insurrection found this beauty!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/releases?ID=c4775d23-c814-40e1-b86d-4123b8e2ddd3" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hatch.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/releases?ID=c4775d23-c814-40e1-b86d-4123b8e2ddd3</a></p>
<p>This is Sen. Hatch, rnaking Republican on the Senate Finance Comm., on 12/1/2011 in a letter to the Treasury pointing out that the law as written clearly states that subsidies can only go to exchanges established by the States not the Federal government.  Furthermore, the regulation as written is an unconstituional violation of the separation powers since it rewrites the law.</p>
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		By: Harold		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Did the ACA framers mean...&quot; 

Well the words mean whatever the left says they mean. There is no intrinsic meaning to words or language. The left makes it up to support or oppose whatever they are currently supporting or opposing. 

Today it is a mandate, tomorrow it is a tax, the day after it&#039;s a tax again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Did the ACA framers mean&#8230;&#8221; </p>
<p>Well the words mean whatever the left says they mean. There is no intrinsic meaning to words or language. The left makes it up to support or oppose whatever they are currently supporting or opposing. </p>
<p>Today it is a mandate, tomorrow it is a tax, the day after it&#8217;s a tax again.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As to Halbig and what may follow, I think it simply does not matter.Life is not a debate conducted in a courtroom before a judge, or judges, who are at least somewhat predictably biased toward one of the two debating parties.

Morality is not going to be established by two debaters debating, which means massaging facts to score points. Truths in general are not established in this process, though lots of points are scored, and the ground is littered with losers.

Obamacare is a combination of the malign with the stupid, wrapped in flavors to seduce the would-be slaves. That will never be declared in a courtroom, though the numbers of angels dancing on a pin will be debated ad nauseam and to no useful purpose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to Halbig and what may follow, I think it simply does not matter.Life is not a debate conducted in a courtroom before a judge, or judges, who are at least somewhat predictably biased toward one of the two debating parties.</p>
<p>Morality is not going to be established by two debaters debating, which means massaging facts to score points. Truths in general are not established in this process, though lots of points are scored, and the ground is littered with losers.</p>
<p>Obamacare is a combination of the malign with the stupid, wrapped in flavors to seduce the would-be slaves. That will never be declared in a courtroom, though the numbers of angels dancing on a pin will be debated ad nauseam and to no useful purpose.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 11:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beverly...

That&#039;s a valuable citation.

It&#039;s author left out the most damaging reality: alternate energy does not create synchronous three-phase power.

It can&#039;t join up with the &#039;infinite bus&#039; that constitutes the power grid.

The moment alternate energy scales past a certain threshold the ENTIRE system becomes unstable -- and eventually collapses entirely. 

That&#039;s right: everything. The circuit breakers trip out to save the expensive equipment.

It then takes days to boot the system back up.

When it happened to Italy (about ten years ago) it took a FULL WEEK for Italy to fully boot up. This blackout shut down essentially all of Italy.

Recently (2013)  Germany found that she&#039;d reached just this saturation point. So the Greens of Germany have had an introduction to modern electrical engineering.

They found out that alternate energy can NEVER scale all the way up. It HAS to stay a minor fraction of the infinite bus.

Their grand vision is impossible by the laws of physics and electromagnetic waves. 

Even the cited author missed that connection to reality.

BTW, the power grid also has to have stockpiled and ready to hand primary energy at all times. Pipelined gas does not count.

Should AQ hit enough natural gas pipelines at the same time, the entire grid must go down. 

The only fix would be if every major power station had its own, co-adjacent, massive natural gas reservoir. The required volume would be such the Greens would have a fit.

The only sources that have the requisite, timely buffers: oil, coal and hydro.

To top all of this off: the digital controls within our power grid are easily hacked. The whiz kids designed them without consideration for evil hackers -- at all. (!!!)

A decent hacker can shut off your (digital) electric service with his smart phone. He doesn&#039;t even need to touch it.

This basic design flaw can&#039;t be fixed until the entire meter is replaced -- across the nation. 

No-one has yet produced a digital meter that can&#039;t be hacked. The panic only set in recently.

All around the nation, security experts are spelling it out to the nations power companies. They are now in a twist.

The correction will come out of rate payers pockets, of course.

Perfect!

Atomic EMP bursts are so yesterday. Iran is working on this very prospect even now. The buzz is coming out of the Arab middle east. (Ask NSA.)

Cheers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beverly&#8230;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a valuable citation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s author left out the most damaging reality: alternate energy does not create synchronous three-phase power.</p>
<p>It can&#8217;t join up with the &#8216;infinite bus&#8217; that constitutes the power grid.</p>
<p>The moment alternate energy scales past a certain threshold the ENTIRE system becomes unstable &#8212; and eventually collapses entirely. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s right: everything. The circuit breakers trip out to save the expensive equipment.</p>
<p>It then takes days to boot the system back up.</p>
<p>When it happened to Italy (about ten years ago) it took a FULL WEEK for Italy to fully boot up. This blackout shut down essentially all of Italy.</p>
<p>Recently (2013)  Germany found that she&#8217;d reached just this saturation point. So the Greens of Germany have had an introduction to modern electrical engineering.</p>
<p>They found out that alternate energy can NEVER scale all the way up. It HAS to stay a minor fraction of the infinite bus.</p>
<p>Their grand vision is impossible by the laws of physics and electromagnetic waves. </p>
<p>Even the cited author missed that connection to reality.</p>
<p>BTW, the power grid also has to have stockpiled and ready to hand primary energy at all times. Pipelined gas does not count.</p>
<p>Should AQ hit enough natural gas pipelines at the same time, the entire grid must go down. </p>
<p>The only fix would be if every major power station had its own, co-adjacent, massive natural gas reservoir. The required volume would be such the Greens would have a fit.</p>
<p>The only sources that have the requisite, timely buffers: oil, coal and hydro.</p>
<p>To top all of this off: the digital controls within our power grid are easily hacked. The whiz kids designed them without consideration for evil hackers &#8212; at all. (!!!)</p>
<p>A decent hacker can shut off your (digital) electric service with his smart phone. He doesn&#8217;t even need to touch it.</p>
<p>This basic design flaw can&#8217;t be fixed until the entire meter is replaced &#8212; across the nation. </p>
<p>No-one has yet produced a digital meter that can&#8217;t be hacked. The panic only set in recently.</p>
<p>All around the nation, security experts are spelling it out to the nations power companies. They are now in a twist.</p>
<p>The correction will come out of rate payers pockets, of course.</p>
<p>Perfect!</p>
<p>Atomic EMP bursts are so yesterday. Iran is working on this very prospect even now. The buzz is coming out of the Arab middle east. (Ask NSA.)</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		By: RickZ		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 06:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;ConceptJunkie Says:

2700 pages long.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

2700 pages was the bill as passed into law.  See this picture:

http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2012/Obamacare/obamacare-bill.jpg

Now see this picture for the law after all the illegal HHS changes, that is &#039;filling in the details&#039;:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/15/National-Politics/Images/518192326.jpg?uuid=E9A7RI28EeKfVPP91wrK0g

If this law wasn&#039;t built to fail it will fail by its own weight, literally.

Just looking at that second picture is quite scary.  How can anyone be in compliance with such a massive and complex law?  The short answer is, &#039;Of course they can&#039;t&#039;.  But that, too, is by design.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.&quot; ~ James Madison&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren&#039;t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. ~ Ayn Rand&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>ConceptJunkie Says:</p>
<p>2700 pages long.</p></blockquote>
<p>2700 pages was the bill as passed into law.  See this picture:</p>
<p><a href="http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2012/Obamacare/obamacare-bill.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://cdn.breitbart.com/mediaserver/Breitbart/Big-Government/2012/Obamacare/obamacare-bill.jpg</a></p>
<p>Now see this picture for the law after all the illegal HHS changes, that is &#8216;filling in the details&#8217;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/15/National-Politics/Images/518192326.jpg?uuid=E9A7RI28EeKfVPP91wrK0g" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/03/15/National-Politics/Images/518192326.jpg?uuid=E9A7RI28EeKfVPP91wrK0g</a></p>
<p>If this law wasn&#8217;t built to fail it will fail by its own weight, literally.</p>
<p>Just looking at that second picture is quite scary.  How can anyone be in compliance with such a massive and complex law?  The short answer is, &#8216;Of course they can&#8217;t&#8217;.  But that, too, is by design.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;It will be of little avail to the people that the laws are made by men of their own choice if the laws be so voluminous that they cannot be read, or so incoherent that they cannot be understood.&#8221; ~ James Madison</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren&#8217;t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. ~ Ayn Rand</p></blockquote>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 06:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would normally say that it will be interesting watching what logical/linguistic contortions are necessary to save the ACA.

However, by now the lawlessness from certain directions is so blatant, that maybe they won&#039;t even pretend that the judges/justice&#039;s rulings have to make sense.

Suck it, serfs. What are you gonna do about it?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would normally say that it will be interesting watching what logical/linguistic contortions are necessary to save the ACA.</p>
<p>However, by now the lawlessness from certain directions is so blatant, that maybe they won&#8217;t even pretend that the judges/justice&#8217;s rulings have to make sense.</p>
<p>Suck it, serfs. What are you gonna do about it?</p>
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		By: FOAF		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FOAF]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like, the Founding Fathers made a speak-o, dude? When they, uh, wrote the Second Amendment they really meant to say, like, &quot;the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall, uh, like, totally be infringed&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like, the Founding Fathers made a speak-o, dude? When they, uh, wrote the Second Amendment they really meant to say, like, &#8220;the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall, uh, like, totally be infringed&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 03:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Augusto Pinochet  where are you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Augusto Pinochet  where are you?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2014 03:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Barry and Pelosi want a Mulligan.

The idea was to economically COMPEL GOP governors to gain OWNERSHIP of 0-care. &#060;&#060;&#060; Get it?

Hence, it was a back door way to get bi-partisan support for what was obviously a totally partisan program designed to destroy the GOP.

It&#039;s not for nothing that voter registration is now tied into 0-care paperwork. 

Barry is Hell bent on crafting a MACHINE in DC -- Chicago on the Potomac. 

The Russian-Ukraine invasion and the dust up in Gaza are so inconvenient: bad timing.

&#038;&#038;&#038;

We&#039;re going to see more political perversion in the next 30 months than we&#039;ve seen to date.

Barry figures he&#039;s been going slow on us all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry and Pelosi want a Mulligan.</p>
<p>The idea was to economically COMPEL GOP governors to gain OWNERSHIP of 0-care. &lt;&lt;&lt; Get it?</p>
<p>Hence, it was a back door way to get bi-partisan support for what was obviously a totally partisan program designed to destroy the GOP.</p>
<p>It&#039;s not for nothing that voter registration is now tied into 0-care paperwork. </p>
<p>Barry is Hell bent on crafting a MACHINE in DC &#8212; Chicago on the Potomac. </p>
<p>The Russian-Ukraine invasion and the dust up in Gaza are so inconvenient: bad timing.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>We&#039;re going to see more political perversion in the next 30 months than we&#039;ve seen to date.</p>
<p>Barry figures he&#039;s been going slow on us all.</p>
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