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		By: IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses."		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806995</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses."]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why in God&#039;s name would you expose people to a wretchedly badly done piece of tripe like My Fair Lady instead of using footage from Pygmalion? 

MFL is horrid. First off, taking the dialogue of Shaw, generally argued as the second greatest playwright in the history of modern English (Shakespeare being the undebated #1) and corrupting both his words and its rhythms in order to shoehorn music into it is beyond retarded.

Second, it&#039;s just disgustingly miscast on virtually every level, even more so when compared to the spectacular casting of Pygmalion.

Audrey Hepburn is just so blatantly wrong as Eliza Doolittle it&#039;s not funny. Yes, she&#039;s utterly gorgeous. She&#039;s TOO gorgeous. Anyone thinks for a moment, they&#039;ll realize that she could NEVER be a guttersnipe. Anyone can take one look at her and know that if they would wipe even a single smudge of dirt off her face with a spit-wetted hankie, it would be unavoidably obvious that she&#039;s gorgeous. Contrast that with Wendy Hiller, who has an unusual face and does a perfect job of playing &quot;both sides&quot; of that coin.

But it doesn&#039;t stop there -- Rex Harrison is downright vile as Higgins, he clearly does not grasp anything that the man is about, playing Higgins as a cold, emotionless fish. Leslie Howard, on the other hand, completely understood what Higgins was about, he was a very, very passionate man who has sublimated his intense passions into a love for language. And when Eliza becomes the embodiment of his passions, he falls for her completely.

And the rest of the casting is the same -- Wilfred Lawson is a charming delight as Eliza&#039;s father, he looks slovenly and as though he belongs in the gutter, until he, too, gets cleaned up by circumstance, and finds misery in responsibility.  Lawson&#039;s speech as he attempts to shakedown Higgins is flat out marvelous.

Even Freddie, played by David Tree, is a perfect nebbish -- exactly right for the character -- compared with Jeremy Brett&#039;s far too good looking overdressed boytoy:

David Tree:
http://images3.cinema.de/imedia/6304/1716304,XTteq5tCL1ZYikZWN1CmGf6KVD1gQ6R2meXO0DAH4mOc3wmyNLfyky96mlvjyEAAHdZyFRurIgqf1RiDHc2JUg==.jpg

Jeremy Brett
http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35104116/aview/img051_019.jpg

And that&#039;s really part of it -- MFL is too damned PRETTY everywhere. EVERYONE is too clean, too good looking, even the &quot;wretched poor&quot; are far better looking than they ought to be.

Sorry, MFL is a horrid movie. Give me The Music Man, or even The Sound of Music, if you want to promote that era&#039;s musicals. MFL is just bad.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in God&#8217;s name would you expose people to a wretchedly badly done piece of tripe like My Fair Lady instead of using footage from Pygmalion? </p>
<p>MFL is horrid. First off, taking the dialogue of Shaw, generally argued as the second greatest playwright in the history of modern English (Shakespeare being the undebated #1) and corrupting both his words and its rhythms in order to shoehorn music into it is beyond retarded.</p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;s just disgustingly miscast on virtually every level, even more so when compared to the spectacular casting of Pygmalion.</p>
<p>Audrey Hepburn is just so blatantly wrong as Eliza Doolittle it&#8217;s not funny. Yes, she&#8217;s utterly gorgeous. She&#8217;s TOO gorgeous. Anyone thinks for a moment, they&#8217;ll realize that she could NEVER be a guttersnipe. Anyone can take one look at her and know that if they would wipe even a single smudge of dirt off her face with a spit-wetted hankie, it would be unavoidably obvious that she&#8217;s gorgeous. Contrast that with Wendy Hiller, who has an unusual face and does a perfect job of playing &#8220;both sides&#8221; of that coin.</p>
<p>But it doesn&#8217;t stop there &#8212; Rex Harrison is downright vile as Higgins, he clearly does not grasp anything that the man is about, playing Higgins as a cold, emotionless fish. Leslie Howard, on the other hand, completely understood what Higgins was about, he was a very, very passionate man who has sublimated his intense passions into a love for language. And when Eliza becomes the embodiment of his passions, he falls for her completely.</p>
<p>And the rest of the casting is the same &#8212; Wilfred Lawson is a charming delight as Eliza&#8217;s father, he looks slovenly and as though he belongs in the gutter, until he, too, gets cleaned up by circumstance, and finds misery in responsibility.  Lawson&#8217;s speech as he attempts to shakedown Higgins is flat out marvelous.</p>
<p>Even Freddie, played by David Tree, is a perfect nebbish &#8212; exactly right for the character &#8212; compared with Jeremy Brett&#8217;s far too good looking overdressed boytoy:</p>
<p>David Tree:<br />
<a href="http://images3.cinema.de/imedia/6304/1716304,XTteq5tCL1ZYikZWN1CmGf6KVD1gQ6R2meXO0DAH4mOc3wmyNLfyky96mlvjyEAAHdZyFRurIgqf1RiDHc2JUg==.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://images3.cinema.de/imedia/6304/1716304,XTteq5tCL1ZYikZWN1CmGf6KVD1gQ6R2meXO0DAH4mOc3wmyNLfyky96mlvjyEAAHdZyFRurIgqf1RiDHc2JUg==.jpg</a></p>
<p>Jeremy Brett<br />
<a href="http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35104116/aview/img051_019.jpg" rel="nofollow ugc">http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/35104116/aview/img051_019.jpg</a></p>
<p>And that&#8217;s really part of it &#8212; MFL is too damned PRETTY everywhere. EVERYONE is too clean, too good looking, even the &#8220;wretched poor&#8221; are far better looking than they ought to be.</p>
<p>Sorry, MFL is a horrid movie. Give me The Music Man, or even The Sound of Music, if you want to promote that era&#8217;s musicals. MFL is just bad.</p>
<p>😉</p>
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		By: DaveindeSwamp		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806277</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lenin had utter contempt for the poor but realized they were quite useful to play on guilt, even back then .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lenin had utter contempt for the poor but realized they were quite useful to play on guilt, even back then .</p>
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		By: Paul in Boston		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806258</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Whoops!  http://youtu.be/pq28qCklEHc]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops!  <a href="http://youtu.be/pq28qCklEHc" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtu.be/pq28qCklEHc</a></p>
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		By: Paul in Boston		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806257</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Undeserving, proud of it,  and very clear eyed about the cant attached to good works:  http://youtu.be/pq28qCklEHcl]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Undeserving, proud of it,  and very clear eyed about the cant attached to good works:  <a href="http://youtu.be/pq28qCklEHcl" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtu.be/pq28qCklEHcl</a></p>
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		By: artfldgr		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806253</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
Isn’t it interesting that, despite writing this, Shaw was a Fabian Socialist?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

the whole of it is a story that your genetics and such matter not, but that if one changes the circumstances and such of anothers enviornment, they change and so, environment is what makes you you, not your genes and so forth

a cannon of the left is the whole of it... 
and one should study the method and construction of such things for consumption and how they work, or else all one is doing is discussing how whateer it is, isnt how you imagine it, and are so then confused.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
Isn’t it interesting that, despite writing this, Shaw was a Fabian Socialist?</p></blockquote>
<p>the whole of it is a story that your genetics and such matter not, but that if one changes the circumstances and such of anothers enviornment, they change and so, environment is what makes you you, not your genes and so forth</p>
<p>a cannon of the left is the whole of it&#8230;<br />
and one should study the method and construction of such things for consumption and how they work, or else all one is doing is discussing how whateer it is, isnt how you imagine it, and are so then confused.</p>
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		By: I R A Darth Aggie		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806252</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://youtu.be/dpDkYZWeeVg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Deserve&#039;s got nothing to do with it&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://youtu.be/dpDkYZWeeVg" rel="nofollow">Deserve&#8217;s got nothing to do with it</a>.</p>
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		By: parker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806197</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In an era of earned income tax credits, EBT cards, free phones, rent assistance, utility assistance, food banks, etc there are extremely few people in our society who suffer because they are poor. Those who do suffer, suffer because they make bad choices.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an era of earned income tax credits, EBT cards, free phones, rent assistance, utility assistance, food banks, etc there are extremely few people in our society who suffer because they are poor. Those who do suffer, suffer because they make bad choices.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matt_SE:

:-) .  Thanks, will fix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt_SE:</p>
<p>🙂 .  Thanks, will fix.</p>
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		By: BurkeanMama		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806183</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:44:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Caring about the poor has never been the object of socialism.  Absolute power for the great socialist minds which know better than the rest of us is and always has been the point.  The poor are for socialists what the human shield is for Hamas.  

The middle class liberals I know, make great speeches about caring about the poor.  What they really mean is that other middle class people should subsidy the and their wants.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caring about the poor has never been the object of socialism.  Absolute power for the great socialist minds which know better than the rest of us is and always has been the point.  The poor are for socialists what the human shield is for Hamas.  </p>
<p>The middle class liberals I know, make great speeches about caring about the poor.  What they really mean is that other middle class people should subsidy the and their wants.</p>
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		By: jvermeer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/24/the-underserving-poor/#comment-806178</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Caring about the poor is very different than telling us you care about the poor. Liberalism is really about the latter.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caring about the poor is very different than telling us you care about the poor. Liberalism is really about the latter.</p>
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