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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805964</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI, here&#039;s an advocacy group in favor of the SHSAT. It&#039;s David vs a rampaging army of Goliath Left activists. They have their work cut out for them against the big players from the Left.

 http://www.coalitionedu.org/home.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI, here&#8217;s an advocacy group in favor of the SHSAT. It&#8217;s David vs a rampaging army of Goliath Left activists. They have their work cut out for them against the big players from the Left.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.coalitionedu.org/home.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.coalitionedu.org/home.html</a></p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805960</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 23:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[KLSmith,

As recently as the mid 90s, Asians voted majority Republican, as expected, in line with their economic and cultural values. The flip from R to D is shocking for those reasons and with how quickly it happened - 1 generation.

As such, the demographic political change isn&#039;t an Asian phenomenon. It&#039;s an American social-political phenomenon. 

It&#039;s an American &lt;b&gt;activist&lt;/b&gt; phenomenon.

The Republicans shouldn&#039;t have lost the Asian vote in the 1st place - the switch in the Asian vote is a bellwether.

Republicans should reasonably be able to win back the Asian vote just as they had it a mere generation ago. Asian core values haven&#039;t changed that much in 1 generation. If Republicans can manage to win back the Asians, that will be a bellwether, too. 

My take is the vote for Obama and Democrats in general is less due to Asians being Asian than Asians being city. City social politics are deep blue and it&#039;s not just Asian urbanites voting Democrat.

IIRC, the minority of Asians who lived in red areas outside of the blue urban centers tend to vote Republican with their neighbors.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KLSmith,</p>
<p>As recently as the mid 90s, Asians voted majority Republican, as expected, in line with their economic and cultural values. The flip from R to D is shocking for those reasons and with how quickly it happened &#8211; 1 generation.</p>
<p>As such, the demographic political change isn&#8217;t an Asian phenomenon. It&#8217;s an American social-political phenomenon. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an American <b>activist</b> phenomenon.</p>
<p>The Republicans shouldn&#8217;t have lost the Asian vote in the 1st place &#8211; the switch in the Asian vote is a bellwether.</p>
<p>Republicans should reasonably be able to win back the Asian vote just as they had it a mere generation ago. Asian core values haven&#8217;t changed that much in 1 generation. If Republicans can manage to win back the Asians, that will be a bellwether, too. </p>
<p>My take is the vote for Obama and Democrats in general is less due to Asians being Asian than Asians being city. City social politics are deep blue and it&#8217;s not just Asian urbanites voting Democrat.</p>
<p>IIRC, the minority of Asians who lived in red areas outside of the blue urban centers tend to vote Republican with their neighbors.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805956</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 22:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[expat,

That&#039;s because the tour was cut-rate cheap (at least for the tour company, if not their charged prices, though likely their prices, too), not because of culture. Later generational, wealthier Asian Americans tour like everyone else.

The Asians are the latest representative of the American middle-class classic of self-reliant immigrant strivers, which is antithetical to the Left&#039;s narrative of a fixed benevolent elite in league with a beholden dependent underclass. Notice how, once again, the demographic picture presented in the Saffran article is of the top and bottom squeezing the middle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>expat,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the tour was cut-rate cheap (at least for the tour company, if not their charged prices, though likely their prices, too), not because of culture. Later generational, wealthier Asian Americans tour like everyone else.</p>
<p>The Asians are the latest representative of the American middle-class classic of self-reliant immigrant strivers, which is antithetical to the Left&#8217;s narrative of a fixed benevolent elite in league with a beholden dependent underclass. Notice how, once again, the demographic picture presented in the Saffran article is of the top and bottom squeezing the middle.</p>
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		By: Bill West		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805904</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 18:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a lousy student.

I would never have been accepted into any of these schools.

I met only one guy from Bronx Science, and I didn&#039;t like him.

And this STILL pisses me off.

Instead of enhancing the level of education for all students, this will decrease the number of highly trained and motivated students.  It is a way for the current elite to say, &quot;will the last one in please close the gate?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a lousy student.</p>
<p>I would never have been accepted into any of these schools.</p>
<p>I met only one guy from Bronx Science, and I didn&#8217;t like him.</p>
<p>And this STILL pisses me off.</p>
<p>Instead of enhancing the level of education for all students, this will decrease the number of highly trained and motivated students.  It is a way for the current elite to say, &#8220;will the last one in please close the gate?&#8221;</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805900</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think another factor with the Asians is that many are so focussed on succeeding in school (especially in math and science) that they don&#039;t spend much time thinking about cultural things, including political issues. 
I know a Chinese-born family that was in Germany for 2 years. The woman took her son on a Chinese-organized tour of Italy, and from what her son told me they spent more time having their pictures taken in front of famous buildings than in actually seeing or learning about them. The tour also took them to Chinese restaurants for the whole trip. You would think that the Chinese might have a bit of curiosity about risotto, given the different way they prepare rice.

While hard work and good grades are great things, but thinking outside the box is also important.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think another factor with the Asians is that many are so focussed on succeeding in school (especially in math and science) that they don&#8217;t spend much time thinking about cultural things, including political issues.<br />
I know a Chinese-born family that was in Germany for 2 years. The woman took her son on a Chinese-organized tour of Italy, and from what her son told me they spent more time having their pictures taken in front of famous buildings than in actually seeing or learning about them. The tour also took them to Chinese restaurants for the whole trip. You would think that the Chinese might have a bit of curiosity about risotto, given the different way they prepare rice.</p>
<p>While hard work and good grades are great things, but thinking outside the box is also important.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:03:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The 70% Asian figure includes classic Democrat party aligned ethnic cohorts that are not from northeast Asia.

Further, the Democrat party is widely seen by Asians as permissive in the extreme for further immigration. 

This stance trumps all other factors.

&#038;&#038;&#038;

Legally sanctioned immigration is ALREADY blowing the roof off of America&#039;s population growth. 

On current trends, immigration is hollowing out American culture.

This is seen in the wide spread tendency to get by without learning American English.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The 70% Asian figure includes classic Democrat party aligned ethnic cohorts that are not from northeast Asia.</p>
<p>Further, the Democrat party is widely seen by Asians as permissive in the extreme for further immigration. </p>
<p>This stance trumps all other factors.</p>
<p>&amp;&amp;&amp;</p>
<p>Legally sanctioned immigration is ALREADY blowing the roof off of America&#8217;s population growth. </p>
<p>On current trends, immigration is hollowing out American culture.</p>
<p>This is seen in the wide spread tendency to get by without learning American English.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805861</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In a zero sum world, somebody has to take the hit for the team. And in this case, it&#039;s those funny looking ching chings that DC has described before.

The credentials are only for the Ruling Class, the D Class. Chelsea, what do you think she is doing and where do you think she was educated? Hussein&#039;s children, where do you think they are being educated at?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a zero sum world, somebody has to take the hit for the team. And in this case, it&#8217;s those funny looking ching chings that DC has described before.</p>
<p>The credentials are only for the Ruling Class, the D Class. Chelsea, what do you think she is doing and where do you think she was educated? Hussein&#8217;s children, where do you think they are being educated at?</p>
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		By: Pilipino_Conservative		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805854</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A few years ago, my niece (who graduated number 3 in her High School class) was denied admission at Berkeley because there were already too many Asians in the incoming class.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago, my niece (who graduated number 3 in her High School class) was denied admission at Berkeley because there were already too many Asians in the incoming class.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805851</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;The thought that a group associated with intelligence, hard work, and entrepreneurship would so overwhelmingly support him was surprising and depressing.&lt;/b&gt;

That&#039;s because the Republican party is propagandized as the party of exploiting workers and deporting foreigners.

Propaganda works on more than just Jews, blacks, and Democrat Americans.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The thought that a group associated with intelligence, hard work, and entrepreneurship would so overwhelmingly support him was surprising and depressing.</b></p>
<p>That&#8217;s because the Republican party is propagandized as the party of exploiting workers and deporting foreigners.</p>
<p>Propaganda works on more than just Jews, blacks, and Democrat Americans.</p>
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		By: KLSmith		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/07/22/the-war-against-educational-meritocracy/#comment-805764</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2014 06:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: true. Was addressing the stereotype. the degree of support for O from Asians (a point or two higher than from Hispanics, I believe) was the most shocking result of 2012, for me. The thought that a group associated with intelligence, hard work, and entrepreneurship would so overwhelmingly support him was surprising and depressing.  
Haven&#039;t been able to go to a Chinese restaurant since then.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: true. Was addressing the stereotype. the degree of support for O from Asians (a point or two higher than from Hispanics, I believe) was the most shocking result of 2012, for me. The thought that a group associated with intelligence, hard work, and entrepreneurship would so overwhelmingly support him was surprising and depressing.<br />
Haven&#8217;t been able to go to a Chinese restaurant since then.</p>
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