Comments on: Abandoning the Obamacare employer mandate

By: Surellin

Surellin — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 19:02:17 +0000

OK, so we drop many of the revenue-producing aspects of Obamacare. Now what? It’s costing about 95 billion a year, or will by 2015. Do we raise taxes or cut services? A wonderful quandary for the left, and we know what they’ll say. There’s Paul Ryan shoving grandma off the cliff right now! – vote Democrat. I sometimes wonder whether this was planned – the directest path to single-payer. Sheesh.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:10:12 +0000

The leaders at the top don’t have a counter to the Left, because they either believe in money or believe in the Left’s death god. Thus without sufficient hate of the Leftist alliance, there’s no way a person can come up with the proper defenses or counter attacks.

The Left’s mission is based upon faith. Kickbacks is just their predestined bonus, they think.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 16:08:31 +0000

If it’s not extremely costly, how are they going to skim off the top and pay for Chelsea’s education? They’re poor.

By: Kyndyll

Kyndyll — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 15:23:48 +0000

J.J.: “Yes, intent is so very important. Results, not so much.”

This has become typical of almost all Progressive left positions and ideology. They wrap an impossibly lofty stated goal inside of an astonishingly bad plan, one which usually looms as extremely costly. If you argue against the bad plan, the left trumpets from the rooftops that you are against the lofty stated goal. If you point out the costs on balance with the zero likelihood of success of the plan, you are selfish and greedy. Then, when the bad plan inevitably fails, the left then blames its political enemies for the failure.

Because the left owns the media and the schools and the right is consistently unable to respond to this strategy, we even lose ground with the debacles of the left.

Rinse, repeat.

By: raf

raf — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 14:54:39 +0000

When th employer mandate is formally abandoned, can we expect more employers to dump their employees onto the ACA exchanges? If so, this is a step in the direction of universal government brokered health “insurance.” That may be a feature rather than a bug.

By: RickZ

RickZ — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 14:52:33 +0000

404Care is the Viagra Law that keeps on screwing (us), and for much longer than 4 hours.
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Beverly Says:

This is an interesting historical curiosity: a short film made by the US Government in 1962 called “RED NIGHTMARE.”

The nuns in my grade school, I guess around 6th grade (’66), showed us that film short. It really is a powerful movie that had a tremendous impact on me and my political beliefs (I still hate commies!) and should be shown in schools today. But since civics went by the boards, I have no expectation that any school/teacher will show it, much less understand or be able to instruct on its message.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:05:12 +0000

MJR, you have to pass the bill to know what’s in the bill.

That’s knowing what they were doing all right.

By: Beverly

Beverly — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:05:26 +0000

This is an interesting historical curiosity: a short film made by the US Government in 1962 called “RED NIGHTMARE.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgR4apcz_Ew

“Jerry Donovan is a small town American who takes his civil liberties for granted. One night, Jerry dreams that his community has been taken over by communists. His friends and family quickly turn against him leading to his arrest and conviction for “subversive” activities.”

Intro by Jack Webb, of “Dragnet” fame.

By: J.J.

J.J. — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 02:25:21 +0000

MJR: “They did not have to know what they were talking about. Merely saying it made it so.”

Yes, intent is so very important. Results, not so much.

By: Matt_SE

Matt_SE — Mon, 07 Jul 2014 01:55:01 +0000

That entire article is a rationalization.
The real reason Dems are talking about doing away with the employer mandate is pure politics:
8 million people lost their insurance under the individual mandate, and it caused a shitstorm. If implemented, the employer mandate would make 80 million people lose their coverage.

There would be nobody in the U.S. that didn’t either lose their coverage, or know someone else that did.
And since the costs have been so far beyond the predictions, the system would collapse within a year.

The Dems would be blamed for generations for a blunder of this magnitude.

*That’s* why they want to get rid of it. *That’s* why Obama has kept pushing back its implementation.