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		By: jon baker		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/06/26/on-the-fifth-anniversary-of-fredhjrs-death/#comment-797405</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jon baker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Like many here, I have been in mourning and anguish for our country for some time now. As others have pointed out, there is a spiritual battle going on...this goes beyond flesh and blood.  Just look at how otherwise functioning adults cannot see what is going on.  Today, our church held its annual 4 Th of July celebration with patriotic music.  The pastor seemed resigned to the fact that  it was likely going to get worse...unless of course there is real repentance in this nation.  He mentioned we are reaping what we have sown as a nation. One thing that has helped me keep my sanity-fragile as it is at this time-is the outreach I help with in one of the local foster homes and one of the low income apartments.  Taking the message of the gospel to kids who have often not heard much before-who have been raised very secular in some cases. What was once common knowledge in this nation is being lost .  You and I likely cannot save the nation, but there are kids that can be taught. We can be a light in our own little corner of the nation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like many here, I have been in mourning and anguish for our country for some time now. As others have pointed out, there is a spiritual battle going on&#8230;this goes beyond flesh and blood.  Just look at how otherwise functioning adults cannot see what is going on.  Today, our church held its annual 4 Th of July celebration with patriotic music.  The pastor seemed resigned to the fact that  it was likely going to get worse&#8230;unless of course there is real repentance in this nation.  He mentioned we are reaping what we have sown as a nation. One thing that has helped me keep my sanity-fragile as it is at this time-is the outreach I help with in one of the local foster homes and one of the low income apartments.  Taking the message of the gospel to kids who have often not heard much before-who have been raised very secular in some cases. What was once common knowledge in this nation is being lost .  You and I likely cannot save the nation, but there are kids that can be taught. We can be a light in our own little corner of the nation.</p>
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		By: Ira		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo--Thanks for the reminder of FredHJr&#039;s articulate warnings.  And thanks for making your blog so personal and family-like.

Promethea wrote above, &lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;I basically have only one thing to say, over and over, which is that I still haven’t really accepted the fact that my friends and family—some of whom are very intelligent and/or talented—are really and truly stupid.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Promethea echoes FredHJr and others, too, and Premethea&#039;s comment itsef needs to be repeated (which is why I set it out in bold-faced font).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo&#8211;Thanks for the reminder of FredHJr&#8217;s articulate warnings.  And thanks for making your blog so personal and family-like.</p>
<p>Promethea wrote above, </p>
<blockquote cite=""><p><b>I basically have only one thing to say, over and over, which is that I still haven’t really accepted the fact that my friends and family—some of whom are very intelligent and/or talented—are really and truly stupid.</b></p></blockquote>
<p>Promethea echoes FredHJr and others, too, and Premethea&#8217;s comment itsef needs to be repeated (which is why I set it out in bold-faced font).</p>
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		By: Baklava		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baklava]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The man was genius.  I didn&#039;t realize it reading his comments at the time.  Wow

Thank you Neo for that trip down memory lane.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The man was genius.  I didn&#8217;t realize it reading his comments at the time.  Wow</p>
<p>Thank you Neo for that trip down memory lane.</p>
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		By: Googler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Googler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 07:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI: strcpy said in a comment that his name was Brian Luethke. There is a Brian Luethke from Knoxville listed as passing away in June, 2011]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI: strcpy said in a comment that his name was Brian Luethke. There is a Brian Luethke from Knoxville listed as passing away in June, 2011</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 04:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good man.

I see description and prediction. Did Fred offer any prescriptions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good man.</p>
<p>I see description and prediction. Did Fred offer any prescriptions?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/06/26/on-the-fifth-anniversary-of-fredhjrs-death/#comment-796725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 23:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Sometimes I think that with Obonga’s ascendancy we are reaping divine retribution, being given over to our worst impulses&lt;/b&gt;

In reply to what Fred wrote in the distant past, that is true.

But American guilt goes a lot longer than Bush II or Bush I. Betrayal at Bay of Pigs. Betrayal of Rhodesia, South Africa, Shah of Iran. Betrayal of Diem. Betrayal of the Republic of Vietnam. Now betrayal of Iraqis, Kurds, Shia, (twice now) Iranian freedom rioters, Egyptians, Libyans, etc. Promises that were never meant to be endured by a US Regime.

All of this, all of these chickens, will come home one way or another. Another way of saying, what goes up, must come down. If your leader is a weakling pitcher like Hussein, at least.

Divine retribution, if it exists, will be based on a lot more than some elections concerning Bush II. A reset button isn&#039;t a bad way to start the Zombie Apocalypse, though, if you ask me.

***

In reading my comments at the Neo links above, I noticed that I often wrote stuff that were intentionally ambiguous. Why? Because They were Watching. But if you think like parker, you might be able to decipher what I was really thinking at the time.

http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/17/airing-ayers/#comment-93193

I also started talking in one thread or another at the time, about the 2nd Amendment guaranteeing the First Amendment. That seemed slightly off topic at the time during that thread. Neo was talking about the effect of the Left&#039;s propaganda and character assassination vs Joe the Plumber, if I recall. In the case of the IRS and ATF storming your house, obviously you may have the &quot;right&quot; to utilize the 2nd Amendment but not a lot of people are &quot;crazy&quot; enough to actually pull a Nevada Ranch Call to Arms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Sometimes I think that with Obonga’s ascendancy we are reaping divine retribution, being given over to our worst impulses</b></p>
<p>In reply to what Fred wrote in the distant past, that is true.</p>
<p>But American guilt goes a lot longer than Bush II or Bush I. Betrayal at Bay of Pigs. Betrayal of Rhodesia, South Africa, Shah of Iran. Betrayal of Diem. Betrayal of the Republic of Vietnam. Now betrayal of Iraqis, Kurds, Shia, (twice now) Iranian freedom rioters, Egyptians, Libyans, etc. Promises that were never meant to be endured by a US Regime.</p>
<p>All of this, all of these chickens, will come home one way or another. Another way of saying, what goes up, must come down. If your leader is a weakling pitcher like Hussein, at least.</p>
<p>Divine retribution, if it exists, will be based on a lot more than some elections concerning Bush II. A reset button isn&#8217;t a bad way to start the Zombie Apocalypse, though, if you ask me.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>In reading my comments at the Neo links above, I noticed that I often wrote stuff that were intentionally ambiguous. Why? Because They were Watching. But if you think like parker, you might be able to decipher what I was really thinking at the time.</p>
<p><a href="http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/17/airing-ayers/#comment-93193" rel="nofollow ugc">http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/17/airing-ayers/#comment-93193</a></p>
<p>I also started talking in one thread or another at the time, about the 2nd Amendment guaranteeing the First Amendment. That seemed slightly off topic at the time during that thread. Neo was talking about the effect of the Left&#8217;s propaganda and character assassination vs Joe the Plumber, if I recall. In the case of the IRS and ATF storming your house, obviously you may have the &#8220;right&#8221; to utilize the 2nd Amendment but not a lot of people are &#8220;crazy&#8221; enough to actually pull a Nevada Ranch Call to Arms.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 22:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;These comments remind me how little I’ve accomplished in trying to get friends and family to see the danger.&quot;

Why is it your responsibility to do so, Prometheia? One should not shoulder the weight of everybody else&#039;s problems. Especially since 68% of people in the world Obey Evil as readily as they Obey Good. One cannot and should not shoulder their guilt, and their sins.

&quot;The use of children and unknown others to attack our border is so outrageous, and yet no one that I know seems to care. &quot;

The guilty will receive their just rewards, no better and no worse. It is not the duty of the state or anybody else to change that, unless they wish to change the world (whether as Faust or a Hero).

&quot;That is so discouraging that I’ve backed off for a while.&quot;

Seeing the mass totality of &quot;human free will&quot; at work, or rather not at work, is always discouraging and warranting of hatred of humanity as a whole.

Communism makes religious fanatics that believe in changing the world, to remake it into a utopia given human flaws.

The Ancient Sages, warrior-philosophers, old era martial artists believed in changing themselves, even if that meant shunning, ignoring, or hating humanity. What was important are not humanity&#039;s flaws, those should either be punished or ignored, but humanity&#039;s exceptions. Such as exceptional individuals. It is not up to other people to create exceptional individuals. It is up to the individuals themselves to proclaim their Will over the masses, and to depart from the crab bucket of humanity.

&quot;Without it, Belmont Club, Ace of Spades, and Instapundit, I would have plunged into despair 10 years ago.&quot;

Guess what I was doing to resolve just that very issue in the years after 2007 and 08. Something I picked up from lethal force applications using up close and personal hand to hand range, is that it takes an Exceptional amount of Will power. Only later did I realize that the reason why this level of power was needed, was because society itself has hard coded basic conditioning and limitations upon humans, depending on the human and the society of course. The ability to fight the US Regime, refuse to Obey Evil, and the ability to &quot;pull the trigger&quot; on evil, all require one thing: Willpower. For the same reason as I found.

&quot;Although I am not an ex-marxist, I will admit to being caught off guard to the extent bho &#038; the Msm will push their agenda.Color me stupid.&quot;

It is merely an issue of training, parker. One must be trained in lethal force hand fighting ranges, otherwise you can be &quot;surprised&quot; a lot by a lot of things you&#039;ve never thought about. The only difference between an ex Marxist and a current day cannonfodder is thought, will, and education. The ex Marxist knew enough of the Left&#039;s offensive arsenal to truly comprehend the Left&#039;s power, its True Power, not its advertised &quot;election&quot; socialism. Thus they saw things in pro active terms, such as thinking &quot;how would I crash the US economy if I had the Left&#039;s power&quot;. They didn&#039;t think reactively such as &quot;how could this happen to the US, whenever an October surprise occurs&quot;. 

Fred had a few years head start on me at the time of 2007, but over the years my favorite refrain for post 2008 was &quot;you ain&#039;t seen nothing yet&quot;. I never clarified what that meant, because I counted on the Left to &quot;convince&quot; people. And they have done as good a job at that as they do at promoting Hollywood rapists and border rape gangs, as anything else they have done in the ATF/IRS field.

&quot;I rarely feel like internet threads are for the ages.&quot;

The NSA thinks they are for the ages, because they make it so. Always remember that. They are always Watching.

&quot;The left doesn’t suffer when people on their side say nutty things, but the right does.&quot;

It&#039;s a religious thing. The religion doesn&#039;t see their dogma as nutty, but they do see pagan beliefs as being crazy and heretical. The Left is a religion, they are not atheists. Another fundamental thing people had to realize &quot;first&quot; before they are unsurpised by the Left.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These comments remind me how little I’ve accomplished in trying to get friends and family to see the danger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why is it your responsibility to do so, Prometheia? One should not shoulder the weight of everybody else&#8217;s problems. Especially since 68% of people in the world Obey Evil as readily as they Obey Good. One cannot and should not shoulder their guilt, and their sins.</p>
<p>&#8220;The use of children and unknown others to attack our border is so outrageous, and yet no one that I know seems to care. &#8221;</p>
<p>The guilty will receive their just rewards, no better and no worse. It is not the duty of the state or anybody else to change that, unless they wish to change the world (whether as Faust or a Hero).</p>
<p>&#8220;That is so discouraging that I’ve backed off for a while.&#8221;</p>
<p>Seeing the mass totality of &#8220;human free will&#8221; at work, or rather not at work, is always discouraging and warranting of hatred of humanity as a whole.</p>
<p>Communism makes religious fanatics that believe in changing the world, to remake it into a utopia given human flaws.</p>
<p>The Ancient Sages, warrior-philosophers, old era martial artists believed in changing themselves, even if that meant shunning, ignoring, or hating humanity. What was important are not humanity&#8217;s flaws, those should either be punished or ignored, but humanity&#8217;s exceptions. Such as exceptional individuals. It is not up to other people to create exceptional individuals. It is up to the individuals themselves to proclaim their Will over the masses, and to depart from the crab bucket of humanity.</p>
<p>&#8220;Without it, Belmont Club, Ace of Spades, and Instapundit, I would have plunged into despair 10 years ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>Guess what I was doing to resolve just that very issue in the years after 2007 and 08. Something I picked up from lethal force applications using up close and personal hand to hand range, is that it takes an Exceptional amount of Will power. Only later did I realize that the reason why this level of power was needed, was because society itself has hard coded basic conditioning and limitations upon humans, depending on the human and the society of course. The ability to fight the US Regime, refuse to Obey Evil, and the ability to &#8220;pull the trigger&#8221; on evil, all require one thing: Willpower. For the same reason as I found.</p>
<p>&#8220;Although I am not an ex-marxist, I will admit to being caught off guard to the extent bho &amp; the Msm will push their agenda.Color me stupid.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is merely an issue of training, parker. One must be trained in lethal force hand fighting ranges, otherwise you can be &#8220;surprised&#8221; a lot by a lot of things you&#8217;ve never thought about. The only difference between an ex Marxist and a current day cannonfodder is thought, will, and education. The ex Marxist knew enough of the Left&#8217;s offensive arsenal to truly comprehend the Left&#8217;s power, its True Power, not its advertised &#8220;election&#8221; socialism. Thus they saw things in pro active terms, such as thinking &#8220;how would I crash the US economy if I had the Left&#8217;s power&#8221;. They didn&#8217;t think reactively such as &#8220;how could this happen to the US, whenever an October surprise occurs&#8221;. </p>
<p>Fred had a few years head start on me at the time of 2007, but over the years my favorite refrain for post 2008 was &#8220;you ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet&#8221;. I never clarified what that meant, because I counted on the Left to &#8220;convince&#8221; people. And they have done as good a job at that as they do at promoting Hollywood rapists and border rape gangs, as anything else they have done in the ATF/IRS field.</p>
<p>&#8220;I rarely feel like internet threads are for the ages.&#8221;</p>
<p>The NSA thinks they are for the ages, because they make it so. Always remember that. They are always Watching.</p>
<p>&#8220;The left doesn’t suffer when people on their side say nutty things, but the right does.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a religious thing. The religion doesn&#8217;t see their dogma as nutty, but they do see pagan beliefs as being crazy and heretical. The Left is a religion, they are not atheists. Another fundamental thing people had to realize &#8220;first&#8221; before they are unsurpised by the Left.</p>
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		By: Immigration headlines today &#124; Fausta&#039;s Blog		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:51:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] late commenter FredHJr had an observation that may glimpse at what&#8217;s going on, Obama is part of a nexus of [&#8230;]]]></description>
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		By: expat		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 18:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was never involved in leftism in an ideological or philosophical way. I was more taken in by the feel good goals until I started realizing that the programs didn&#039;t make things any better. But I did try to get some real life experiences that bolstered my misgivings. It was people like Fred and Neo and Occam&#039;s that helped me deepen my insight into the real depravity of the left. For that I am very grateful. Fred does live on a bit in all of us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was never involved in leftism in an ideological or philosophical way. I was more taken in by the feel good goals until I started realizing that the programs didn&#8217;t make things any better. But I did try to get some real life experiences that bolstered my misgivings. It was people like Fred and Neo and Occam&#8217;s that helped me deepen my insight into the real depravity of the left. For that I am very grateful. Fred does live on a bit in all of us.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2014 17:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[21 The refining pot is for silver and the furnace for gold, and a man is valued by what others say of him. - Proverbs]]></description>
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