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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some of us wanted to get rid of the people in Gitmo, permanently, while others wanted intel and information, and others talked about American Justice and due process for insurgents.

Well, Hussein found a way to give you the finger, no matter what camp you belonged to. But we turned out to be right, those of us that said we needed to get rid of the insurgents or else somebody was going to release them or take hostages to release them. Israel should already be a prime example of why you don&#039;t want too many prisoners of the enemy action, living around.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of us wanted to get rid of the people in Gitmo, permanently, while others wanted intel and information, and others talked about American Justice and due process for insurgents.</p>
<p>Well, Hussein found a way to give you the finger, no matter what camp you belonged to. But we turned out to be right, those of us that said we needed to get rid of the insurgents or else somebody was going to release them or take hostages to release them. Israel should already be a prime example of why you don&#8217;t want too many prisoners of the enemy action, living around.</p>
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		By: MikeNC		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeNC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This whole deserter for war criminals things just boggles the mind. (Check your premises.) The thing that comes to mind for me now is that since it is said that obama is setting the stage for the release of all of the Gitmo prisoners what happens when he gets around to Kalid Sheik Mohammed, remember him? Nobody that I have heard has mentioned KSM since this went down. Maybe if he promises to be a nice boy, KSM will get the Presidential Medal of Freedom and a ride home on Air Force 1 making our surrender complete.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole deserter for war criminals things just boggles the mind. (Check your premises.) The thing that comes to mind for me now is that since it is said that obama is setting the stage for the release of all of the Gitmo prisoners what happens when he gets around to Kalid Sheik Mohammed, remember him? Nobody that I have heard has mentioned KSM since this went down. Maybe if he promises to be a nice boy, KSM will get the Presidential Medal of Freedom and a ride home on Air Force 1 making our surrender complete.</p>
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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don Carlos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 16:45:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hell, J.J., we treated them just like we treat all incarcerated violent felons: Feed &#039;em, heal &#039;em, bulk &#039;em up, entertain &#039;em with TV, give &#039;em Sunni muslim &quot;chaplains&quot;. Then let &#039;em loose to do their thing, ya know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hell, J.J., we treated them just like we treat all incarcerated violent felons: Feed &#8217;em, heal &#8217;em, bulk &#8217;em up, entertain &#8217;em with TV, give &#8217;em Sunni muslim &#8220;chaplains&#8221;. Then let &#8217;em loose to do their thing, ya know.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 15:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve 57: &quot;Just saying, in addition to everything else that’s wrong with the deal we could have gotten more for our trade-in, too.&quot;

Quite right. We shouldn&#039;t be making deals with terrorists in the first place.  But if you&#039;re going to bargain with  them, try to do it  right. They ask for five, you offer one. Stand firm and they will offer four, at which time you offer two and say, that&#039;s your last offer - and mean it.  In the ME every transaction is done on that basis. Haggling is the norm and being a tough bargainer is expected.  The Taliban dealership accepted five trade ins in great shape in return for one unit in questionable condition.  Yep, smartest administration - ever!

I saw a doctor who worked at GITMO interviewed on Judge Jeanine&#039;s show last night. He describes these killers as far more radicalized and dangerous than when they  were taken prisoner. They have been kept in good health, provided an opportunity to stay in good physical shape, and are fit for the duty. He also described them as men who have lived only to kill their enemies. Men without souls who are extremely dangerous. Quite a picture.

When you realize that  all the GITMO prisoners are illegal combatants (no uniform, no allegiance to a sovereign nation, attacks primarily civilian targets) who could be legally shot after a short court martial, are still waiting for a trial because the leftists lawyers have trumped up every kind of legal excuse for not doing so, the mind boggles. The enemy has declared war, we have declared  lawfare. (Warfare that is hindered by legal niceties at every turn.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve 57: &#8220;Just saying, in addition to everything else that’s wrong with the deal we could have gotten more for our trade-in, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite right. We shouldn&#8217;t be making deals with terrorists in the first place.  But if you&#8217;re going to bargain with  them, try to do it  right. They ask for five, you offer one. Stand firm and they will offer four, at which time you offer two and say, that&#8217;s your last offer &#8211; and mean it.  In the ME every transaction is done on that basis. Haggling is the norm and being a tough bargainer is expected.  The Taliban dealership accepted five trade ins in great shape in return for one unit in questionable condition.  Yep, smartest administration &#8211; ever!</p>
<p>I saw a doctor who worked at GITMO interviewed on Judge Jeanine&#8217;s show last night. He describes these killers as far more radicalized and dangerous than when they  were taken prisoner. They have been kept in good health, provided an opportunity to stay in good physical shape, and are fit for the duty. He also described them as men who have lived only to kill their enemies. Men without souls who are extremely dangerous. Quite a picture.</p>
<p>When you realize that  all the GITMO prisoners are illegal combatants (no uniform, no allegiance to a sovereign nation, attacks primarily civilian targets) who could be legally shot after a short court martial, are still waiting for a trial because the leftists lawyers have trumped up every kind of legal excuse for not doing so, the mind boggles. The enemy has declared war, we have declared  lawfare. (Warfare that is hindered by legal niceties at every turn.)</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 06:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Via Dave Burge of Iowahawk fame, apparently somebody has noticed the same thing I have about Obama and his minions. To be fare, lots of people have noticed the same thing I have, and since 2008 we&#039;ve been getting together both in reality and online since 2008 to wonder why anybody could have not noticed the same thing we have.

This whole Bergdahl fiasco they&#039;ve decided to run with has it&#039;s own hashtag.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/WHsuicidemission?src=hash]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Via Dave Burge of Iowahawk fame, apparently somebody has noticed the same thing I have about Obama and his minions. To be fare, lots of people have noticed the same thing I have, and since 2008 we&#8217;ve been getting together both in reality and online since 2008 to wonder why anybody could have not noticed the same thing we have.</p>
<p>This whole Bergdahl fiasco they&#8217;ve decided to run with has it&#8217;s own hashtag.</p>
<p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WHsuicidemission?src=hash" rel="nofollow ugc">https://twitter.com/hashtag/WHsuicidemission?src=hash</a></p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve57]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 05:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You left out one thing from the car analogy, neo. We traded a Mercedes Benz that&#039;s got some miles on it but is still in condition to get that lemon that&#039;s still going to cost a billion dollars.

Just saying, in addition to everything else that&#039;s wrong with the deal we could have gotten more for our trade-in, too.

And they&#039;re not just calling their critics hypocrites anymore. Now they&#039;re calling people psychopaths.

I am amazed at the stupid things people have to say to defend the Obama administration. Especially by the Obama administration.

Susan Rice says Bergdahl served with honor and distinction, and she and others are doubling down by claiming they were talking about the fact Bergdahl enlisted. Apparently just signing the contract and putting on the uniform counts as serving with honor and distinction.

So when are we going to be emptying out Leavenworth and our other military stockades and naval brigs, as opposed to emptying out GITMO? Everybody in those lock-ups signed a contract and wore a uniform. That&#039;s the only way you can get into those prisons.

Bradley Manning signed the contract and wore the uniform. He even deployed. Did he serve with honor and distinction?

This is the weird place we&#039;re in. They&#039;re saying a deserter served with honor and distinction, and they&#039;re calling the soldiers who didn&#039;t desert but risked their lives (some killed) looking for him psychopaths and &quot;swift boaters.&quot;

They think telling the truth is a crime. Politicians and their flunkys are allowed to say stupid things, I suppose, but these politicians and flunkys are speaking for the Commander in Chief. 

This bodes well for morale and retention.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You left out one thing from the car analogy, neo. We traded a Mercedes Benz that&#8217;s got some miles on it but is still in condition to get that lemon that&#8217;s still going to cost a billion dollars.</p>
<p>Just saying, in addition to everything else that&#8217;s wrong with the deal we could have gotten more for our trade-in, too.</p>
<p>And they&#8217;re not just calling their critics hypocrites anymore. Now they&#8217;re calling people psychopaths.</p>
<p>I am amazed at the stupid things people have to say to defend the Obama administration. Especially by the Obama administration.</p>
<p>Susan Rice says Bergdahl served with honor and distinction, and she and others are doubling down by claiming they were talking about the fact Bergdahl enlisted. Apparently just signing the contract and putting on the uniform counts as serving with honor and distinction.</p>
<p>So when are we going to be emptying out Leavenworth and our other military stockades and naval brigs, as opposed to emptying out GITMO? Everybody in those lock-ups signed a contract and wore a uniform. That&#8217;s the only way you can get into those prisons.</p>
<p>Bradley Manning signed the contract and wore the uniform. He even deployed. Did he serve with honor and distinction?</p>
<p>This is the weird place we&#8217;re in. They&#8217;re saying a deserter served with honor and distinction, and they&#8217;re calling the soldiers who didn&#8217;t desert but risked their lives (some killed) looking for him psychopaths and &#8220;swift boaters.&#8221;</p>
<p>They think telling the truth is a crime. Politicians and their flunkys are allowed to say stupid things, I suppose, but these politicians and flunkys are speaking for the Commander in Chief. </p>
<p>This bodes well for morale and retention.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo-neocon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 04:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Language Nazi:

Thanks! Will fix.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Language Nazi:</p>
<p>Thanks! Will fix.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 04:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;Both because I got a reply and this quickly.&lt;/b&gt;

And those replies are different from canned mass messages in what way? They were hand written?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Both because I got a reply and this quickly.</b></p>
<p>And those replies are different from canned mass messages in what way? They were hand written?</p>
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		By: Language Nazi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Language Nazi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 03:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You want &quot;flouting&quot;.  &quot;Flaunting&quot; means something else entirely.  It&#039;s a common confusion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want &#8220;flouting&#8221;.  &#8220;Flaunting&#8221; means something else entirely.  It&#8217;s a common confusion.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 02:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can tell how much they are paying  attention by how quickly they reply.

I didn&#039;t request a reply to the above missive. All three Congress Critters have replied. That&#039;s really unusual. Both because I got a reply and  this quickly.  It shows that this is a veeery sensitive issue. 

They will think everyone is sleep walking as usual, if they  don&#039;t hear from you.  Try it, you&#039;ll like it. The more you do, the more you&#039;ll want to do.  You may think it&#039;s not doing any good, but they have their fingers in the air trying to find out which way the wind&#039;s blowing. They may  not agree with you - mine sure as heck don&#039;t, but they need to know that everyone is not on board with their programs and ideas.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can tell how much they are paying  attention by how quickly they reply.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t request a reply to the above missive. All three Congress Critters have replied. That&#8217;s really unusual. Both because I got a reply and  this quickly.  It shows that this is a veeery sensitive issue. </p>
<p>They will think everyone is sleep walking as usual, if they  don&#8217;t hear from you.  Try it, you&#8217;ll like it. The more you do, the more you&#8217;ll want to do.  You may think it&#8217;s not doing any good, but they have their fingers in the air trying to find out which way the wind&#8217;s blowing. They may  not agree with you &#8211; mine sure as heck don&#8217;t, but they need to know that everyone is not on board with their programs and ideas.</p>
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