Comments on: The Bergdahl memes emerge

By: DaveindeSwamp

DaveindeSwamp — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:11:56 +0000

Geoffrey Britain, what makes you think that road is paved with any good intentions?

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:56:30 +0000

I have no idea how to convince a LIV that their god is really the Wizard of Oz.

The historically verified way to convince someone that their god is false, is by proving that their god is less powerful than our god.

By killing them and theirs.

By: Ymarsakar

Ymarsakar — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 02:55:17 +0000

Hussein’s already pardoned people from prison. Reminds me of another Hussein.

By: Don Carlos

Don Carlos — Thu, 05 Jun 2014 01:49:40 +0000

I hopefully think the Bergdahl swap is hitting LIVs fairly hard, because they can relate to the grunts he walked out on, probably informed on to the Taliban, and the grunts who had to follow orders and hunt for him, losing several lives. That should hit them; I exclude the Pajama Boy metrosexuals from that group, of course.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 22:10:29 +0000

Bob,

I’m not suggesting that sufficient logic or reason could change the low info voters mind about Obama. All of us have tried that… repeatedly.

I am suggesting that absolute, undeniable proof that he has not only fooled them but is actually an evil man with evil intentions would change the minds of many. That’s because if the proof of malevolence is absolute enough, they either abandon him or abandon the PC memes from which they gain their self-esteem.

Tragically, the chances of this happening appear to be miniscule. Not least because Obama may well believe in the very memes that those who vote for him do, they are in denial as to the very real harm that they create. They are too busily paving the road to hell with their good intentions… to see where the road leads.

By: Bob From Virginia

Bob From Virginia — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:29:09 +0000

Geoffrey I feel you are mistaken in your position that “only unassailable proof of malevolent intent to do harm by Obama could change minds” of LIVs. I suspect the number of people whose minds can be changed by logic w.r.t. Obama at this point is very small. As for the rest there is no amount of logic or proof that will undo what many LIVs consider a source of self-esteem or security, that is, an identification with Obama. I have no idea how to convince a LIV that their god is really the Wizard of Oz.

By: Geoffrey Britain

Geoffrey Britain — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:37:50 +0000

All criticism of Obama runs up against the twin memes of racial animosity as motivation for the criticism (how do you disprove a negative?) and the assertion that Obama means well, that his intentions are admirable, as they are politically correct.

Since those are the primary factors in the low info voter’s evaluation, the purported ideological goals to which the LIV gives allegiance, only unassailable proof of malevolent intent to do harm by Obama could change minds. BTW, ‘unassailable proof’ extends beyond reasonable doubt to 100% certainty. That said, some will go to their graves before abandoning their support.

By: Ann

Ann — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:17:03 +0000

It doesn’t hurt that the “optics” in this are totally going against Obama and his crew. Clean-cut, well-spoken soldiers who served with Bergdahl versus the faces of the Taliban Five. I think most human beings would know which side to line up with in this case.

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By: Sam L.

Sam L. — Wed, 04 Jun 2014 20:04:54 +0000

Horton: Seems I recall that it was Dukakis’ primary opponent who brought that up. Wikipedia, those well-known right-wing-conspiracists, says this:

“Horton in the 1988 presidential campaign

The first person to mention the Massachusetts furlough program in the 1988 presidential campaign was Al Gore. During a debate before the New York primary, Gore took issue with the furlough program. However, he did not specifically mention the Horton incident or even his name, instead asking a general question about the Massachusetts furlough program.[8]”