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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Beverly, the thing is, they could not refute right angles and destroy it, without understand base geometry. Thus inevitably, like the Left, they will transform into thought control, not merely right angle destruction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beverly, the thing is, they could not refute right angles and destroy it, without understand base geometry. Thus inevitably, like the Left, they will transform into thought control, not merely right angle destruction.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 03:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[(above from SparkNotes)

I remembered dimly, as through a mist, reading Gulliver&#039;s Travels in college, and being struck by the absurd desire of the Laputans to literally elevate themselves above the mundane concerns of hoi polloi, as well as the silly image of them traipsing about their island followed by attendants with pigs&#039; bladders on sticks. Sounds like our current would-be rulers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(above from SparkNotes)</p>
<p>I remembered dimly, as through a mist, reading Gulliver&#8217;s Travels in college, and being struck by the absurd desire of the Laputans to literally elevate themselves above the mundane concerns of hoi polloi, as well as the silly image of them traipsing about their island followed by attendants with pigs&#8217; bladders on sticks. Sounds like our current would-be rulers.</p>
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		By: Beverly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beverly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 02:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Something has been nibbling at the back of my mind, reading about our Bien Pensants. Something Swiftian. So I found it: the flying Island of Laputa.

&quot;Gulliver is immediately surrounded by people and notices that they are all quite odd. Their heads are all tilted to one side or the other, with one eye turned inward and the other looking up. Their clothes are adorned with images of celestial bodies and musical instruments. Some of the people are servants, and each of them carries a “flapper” made of a stick with a pig-s bladder tied to the end. Their job is to aid conversation by striking the ear of the listener and the mouth of the speaker at the appropriate times to prevent their masters’ minds from wandering off.

Gulliver is conveyed to the king, who sits behind a table loaded with mathematical instruments. They wait an hour before there is some opportunity to arouse the king from his thoughts, at which point he is struck with the flapper. The king says something, and Gulliver’s ear is struck with the flapper as well, even though he tries to explain that he does not require such actions. It becomes clear that he and the king cannot speak any of the same languages, so Gulliver is taken to an apartment and served dinner.

A teacher is sent to instruct Gulliver in the language of the island, and he is able to learn several sentences. He discovers that the name of the island is Laputa, which in their language means “floating island.” A tailor is also sent to provide him with new clothes, and while he is waiting for these clothes, the king orders the island to be moved. It is taken to a point above the capital city of the kingdom Lagado, passing villages along the way and collecting petitions from the king’s subjects by means of ropes sent down to the lands below.

The language of the Laputans relies heavily on mathematical and musical concepts, as they value these theoretical disciplines above everything. The Laputans despise practical geometry, thinking it vulgar–so much so that they make sure that there are no right angles in their buildings. They are very good with charts and figures but very clumsy in practical matters. 

They practice astrology and dread changes in the celestial bodies. . . .

Laputa is more complex than Lilliput or Brobdingnag because its strangeness is not based on differences of size but, instead, on the primacy of abstract theoretical concerns over concrete practical concerns in Laputan culture. 

Nonetheless, physical power is just as important in Laputa as it is in Lilliput and Brobdingnag. Here, power is exercised not through physical size but through technology. The government floats over the rest of the kingdom, using technology to gain advantage over its subjects. The floating island is both a formidable weapon and an allegorical image that represents the distance between the government and the people it governs. 

The king is oblivious to the real concerns of the people below–indeed, he has never even been below. The nobility and scientific thinkers of the island are similarly far removed from the people and their concerns, so much so that they need to be aroused from their thoughts and daydreams by their servants. 

The need to regulate when people listen and when they talk by means of such intermediaries as the servants with their pig bladders is absurd, and the mechanized quality of this system demonstrates how nonhuman these people are. Indeed, abstract theory dominates all aspects of Laputan life, from language to architecture to geography. 

We are compelled to wonder whether the Laputans’ rigid adherence to such principles–their disdain for practical geometry, for example, leads them to renounce right angles–limits their society.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something has been nibbling at the back of my mind, reading about our Bien Pensants. Something Swiftian. So I found it: the flying Island of Laputa.</p>
<p>&#8220;Gulliver is immediately surrounded by people and notices that they are all quite odd. Their heads are all tilted to one side or the other, with one eye turned inward and the other looking up. Their clothes are adorned with images of celestial bodies and musical instruments. Some of the people are servants, and each of them carries a “flapper” made of a stick with a pig-s bladder tied to the end. Their job is to aid conversation by striking the ear of the listener and the mouth of the speaker at the appropriate times to prevent their masters’ minds from wandering off.</p>
<p>Gulliver is conveyed to the king, who sits behind a table loaded with mathematical instruments. They wait an hour before there is some opportunity to arouse the king from his thoughts, at which point he is struck with the flapper. The king says something, and Gulliver’s ear is struck with the flapper as well, even though he tries to explain that he does not require such actions. It becomes clear that he and the king cannot speak any of the same languages, so Gulliver is taken to an apartment and served dinner.</p>
<p>A teacher is sent to instruct Gulliver in the language of the island, and he is able to learn several sentences. He discovers that the name of the island is Laputa, which in their language means “floating island.” A tailor is also sent to provide him with new clothes, and while he is waiting for these clothes, the king orders the island to be moved. It is taken to a point above the capital city of the kingdom Lagado, passing villages along the way and collecting petitions from the king’s subjects by means of ropes sent down to the lands below.</p>
<p>The language of the Laputans relies heavily on mathematical and musical concepts, as they value these theoretical disciplines above everything. The Laputans despise practical geometry, thinking it vulgar–so much so that they make sure that there are no right angles in their buildings. They are very good with charts and figures but very clumsy in practical matters. </p>
<p>They practice astrology and dread changes in the celestial bodies. . . .</p>
<p>Laputa is more complex than Lilliput or Brobdingnag because its strangeness is not based on differences of size but, instead, on the primacy of abstract theoretical concerns over concrete practical concerns in Laputan culture. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, physical power is just as important in Laputa as it is in Lilliput and Brobdingnag. Here, power is exercised not through physical size but through technology. The government floats over the rest of the kingdom, using technology to gain advantage over its subjects. The floating island is both a formidable weapon and an allegorical image that represents the distance between the government and the people it governs. </p>
<p>The king is oblivious to the real concerns of the people below–indeed, he has never even been below. The nobility and scientific thinkers of the island are similarly far removed from the people and their concerns, so much so that they need to be aroused from their thoughts and daydreams by their servants. </p>
<p>The need to regulate when people listen and when they talk by means of such intermediaries as the servants with their pig bladders is absurd, and the mechanized quality of this system demonstrates how nonhuman these people are. Indeed, abstract theory dominates all aspects of Laputan life, from language to architecture to geography. </p>
<p>We are compelled to wonder whether the Laputans’ rigid adherence to such principles–their disdain for practical geometry, for example, leads them to renounce right angles–limits their society.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Velville		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Velville]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 02:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Journalistic integrity, thy name is not &quot;Tina Brown.&quot;  If her near-ruin of The New Yorker and other properties are ignored (as she likely desires much as the Clinton, G W Bush, and Obama administrations wish their glaring failures ignored) then we should ask &quot;Why should we ignore them?&quot;
Why did she give Ms Lewinsky a platform for musings that should not have been newsworthy in the first place?  If this as some believe done at the behest of Mrs Clinton the poorly disguised candidate then Ms Brown shows that news is not important to her, journalistic ethics even less so, and only celebrity matters.
By comparison Drudge is the ideal to which young journalist should aspire.
What a frightening idea?!?!?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Journalistic integrity, thy name is not &#8220;Tina Brown.&#8221;  If her near-ruin of The New Yorker and other properties are ignored (as she likely desires much as the Clinton, G W Bush, and Obama administrations wish their glaring failures ignored) then we should ask &#8220;Why should we ignore them?&#8221;<br />
Why did she give Ms Lewinsky a platform for musings that should not have been newsworthy in the first place?  If this as some believe done at the behest of Mrs Clinton the poorly disguised candidate then Ms Brown shows that news is not important to her, journalistic ethics even less so, and only celebrity matters.<br />
By comparison Drudge is the ideal to which young journalist should aspire.<br />
What a frightening idea?!?!?</p>
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		By: Emptying the Inbox and (Open Thread)		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/10/tina-brown-strikes-a-blow-for-the-integrity-of-real-journalists-versus-matt-drudge/#comment-773652</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Emptying the Inbox and (Open Thread)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 18:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] the media wall protecting Bill Clinton and expose  his immoral peccadilloes to the world.  Neo-neocon gives Brown the appropriate treatment:  hard facts mixed with amusing (and deserved) [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] the media wall protecting Bill Clinton and expose  his immoral peccadilloes to the world.  Neo-neocon gives Brown the appropriate treatment:  hard facts mixed with amusing (and deserved) [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 17:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[There are some journalists from whom I would accept a criticism of Drudge and many others on the net as sensationalist, superficial, etc. Tina Brown is not one of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are some journalists from whom I would accept a criticism of Drudge and many others on the net as sensationalist, superficial, etc. Tina Brown is not one of them.</p>
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		By: nferguso		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nferguso]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 14:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matt_SE:  &quot;ascendant&quot;:  look it up.  Oopsy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt_SE:  &#8220;ascendant&#8221;:  look it up.  Oopsy.</p>
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		By: Jeff Weimer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff Weimer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 13:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lewisnky changed the media in one crucial way: It  collectively decided to never let any scandal against Democrats gain any traction ever again. For Republicans they would make it up if they had to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lewisnky changed the media in one crucial way: It  collectively decided to never let any scandal against Democrats gain any traction ever again. For Republicans they would make it up if they had to.</p>
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		By: willis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[willis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 12:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[So how did Tina become so well acquainted with Matt&#039;s apartment?  I don&#039;t recall him publishing a blueprint.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how did Tina become so well acquainted with Matt&#8217;s apartment?  I don&#8217;t recall him publishing a blueprint.</p>
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		By: Sam L.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam L.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2014 04:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a haaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd life, being Queen Bitch and getting your lunch eaten by a nonentity beneath your lack of dignity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a haaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrd life, being Queen Bitch and getting your lunch eaten by a nonentity beneath your lack of dignity.</p>
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