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		By: Roman		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/04/but-dude-if-you-think-about-it/#comment-938287</link>

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		By: Don Carlos		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 15:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve57:
VERY well said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve57:<br />
VERY well said.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 19:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Steve57:

Well said.

You might be interested in &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2014/05/05/the-times-struggles-to-keep-on-propagandizing-in-the-face-of-the-harsh-realities-of-obamas-foreign-policy/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the post&lt;/a&gt; I just put up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve57:</p>
<p>Well said.</p>
<p>You might be interested in <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2014/05/05/the-times-struggles-to-keep-on-propagandizing-in-the-face-of-the-harsh-realities-of-obamas-foreign-policy/" rel="nofollow">the post</a> I just put up.</p>
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		By: Steve57		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 18:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have heard people defend this administration (both insiders and outsiders) by saying the stupidest things I have ever heard in my life. The serial crimes of Barack Obama have long term consequences. They are not just isolated events that happened &quot;a long time ago.&quot;

A long time ago. If you have the attention span of a gnat.

Take Obama&#039;s lawbreaking when it came to the Chrysler bankruptcy. The law states that secured bondholders are first in line to be made whole in a bankruptcy proceeding.For a very good reason; no one would make loans to companies in financial distress without such guarantees. Yet Obama set aside the law and made sure his buddies in the unions were first in line. Secured bondholders were told they&#039;d get 29cents on the dollar.

I&#039;m sure the Obama administration would say so what, that was a long time ago. No, it&#039;s not a long time ago. And more importantly, we get near daily reminders that Obama will break the law anytime it&#039;s in his or his cronies&#039; interest. The Obamacare debacle is the most obvious example, but their are others. For instance recall the Solyndra bankruptcy. The DoE managed to pay the hedge funds (Obama bundlers and campaign contributors) first despite the law saying the &quot;taxpayers get paid first. The rationale was actually sound, in a damning sort of way for Obama. It was a risky investment, that&#039;s why government loan guarantees were required in the first place. To reassure investors.

In other words, green energy is such a bad idea it wouldn&#039;t exist unless government created the market. And they paid back their cronies for the exact same reason bankruptcy law says secured investors get paid first! Which they refused to do then because, apparently, the bondholders aren&#039;t Obama cronies.

So we have 0.1% GDP growth for a reason. Do not doubt that the Chrysler bailout is still haunting investors who&#039;d rather sit on their money than invest it in an economy overseen by a criminal administration.

By the same token, we are dealing with people abroad who have attention spans longer than a gnat. By definition that&#039;s true, since some of them still list the loss of Al Andalus and the Crusades among their grievances with the West. There are people out there who, as did I, knew Obama was lying right away about spontaneous demonstrations about the video. Such as the people who planned the violence. Not just in Cairo and Benghazi, but everywhere. These things are never spontaneous. These crowds don&#039;t just form in Khartoum because of a video they wouldn&#039;t know about unless the organizers told them. Similarly, they don&#039;t form spontaneously in Kabul over some nobody pastor in Florida burning Qurans. Somebody has to get the word out.

The Turks knew Obama was lying immediately; their consul general had to drive through Ansar Al Sharia&#039;s barricades to leave the meeting he had with our ambassador. All sorts of countries have effective intelligence services; some our allies, some adversaries. They would have known if not immediately within a day or two exactly what happened. Lying about something that happened in public view in Libya&#039;s second largest city makes about as much sense as lying about the Boston bombing. The truth is going to come out quickly. So these nation&#039;s leaders knew, as Obama was sticking with the lie, that it was a lie. To our nation&#039;s detriment as our allies were dismayed and are adversaries gleefully emboldened.

The groups that organized the Cairo riots and the Benghazi assault had in interest in advancing the anti-Muslim video lie just as much as the Obama administration. 

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/10/jihadis-threaten-to-burn-u-s-embassy-in-cairo/

So this administration&#039;s interests aligned with those of Ansar Al Sharia, Islamic Jihad, the Sunni Group, Al Gamaa Al Islamiyya, and the Muslim Brotherhood. That is, again, criminal. And our allies and our adversaries realized that.

We will be living with the effects of Obama&#039;s criminal foreign policy and national security failures for a long, long time. We see many of those effects in Ukraine, the Baltics where Putin is also using agents to stir up trouble with Russian minorities, in the East China Sea where China is doing everything possible to provoke a war with Japan, in the South China Sea where China is more aggressively enforcing its maritime claims, etc.

And why not? We had already proven we would sit on our hands and do nothing in response to the sinking of an ally&#039;s ship or when the NORKs shelled their islands, causing loss of life in both cases. Then we demonstrated we wouldn&#039;t even defend sovereign US territory in the form of a diplomatic facility, again with loss of life. And I say we because this country re-elected this criminal. And now we have three more years to listen to the completely unqualified people in this administration from the top guy on down talk about how things that any sentient being can see are still having effects now happened &quot;a long time ago&quot; and we should get over it.

I will when Putin does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have heard people defend this administration (both insiders and outsiders) by saying the stupidest things I have ever heard in my life. The serial crimes of Barack Obama have long term consequences. They are not just isolated events that happened &#8220;a long time ago.&#8221;</p>
<p>A long time ago. If you have the attention span of a gnat.</p>
<p>Take Obama&#8217;s lawbreaking when it came to the Chrysler bankruptcy. The law states that secured bondholders are first in line to be made whole in a bankruptcy proceeding.For a very good reason; no one would make loans to companies in financial distress without such guarantees. Yet Obama set aside the law and made sure his buddies in the unions were first in line. Secured bondholders were told they&#8217;d get 29cents on the dollar.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure the Obama administration would say so what, that was a long time ago. No, it&#8217;s not a long time ago. And more importantly, we get near daily reminders that Obama will break the law anytime it&#8217;s in his or his cronies&#8217; interest. The Obamacare debacle is the most obvious example, but their are others. For instance recall the Solyndra bankruptcy. The DoE managed to pay the hedge funds (Obama bundlers and campaign contributors) first despite the law saying the &#8220;taxpayers get paid first. The rationale was actually sound, in a damning sort of way for Obama. It was a risky investment, that&#8217;s why government loan guarantees were required in the first place. To reassure investors.</p>
<p>In other words, green energy is such a bad idea it wouldn&#8217;t exist unless government created the market. And they paid back their cronies for the exact same reason bankruptcy law says secured investors get paid first! Which they refused to do then because, apparently, the bondholders aren&#8217;t Obama cronies.</p>
<p>So we have 0.1% GDP growth for a reason. Do not doubt that the Chrysler bailout is still haunting investors who&#8217;d rather sit on their money than invest it in an economy overseen by a criminal administration.</p>
<p>By the same token, we are dealing with people abroad who have attention spans longer than a gnat. By definition that&#8217;s true, since some of them still list the loss of Al Andalus and the Crusades among their grievances with the West. There are people out there who, as did I, knew Obama was lying right away about spontaneous demonstrations about the video. Such as the people who planned the violence. Not just in Cairo and Benghazi, but everywhere. These things are never spontaneous. These crowds don&#8217;t just form in Khartoum because of a video they wouldn&#8217;t know about unless the organizers told them. Similarly, they don&#8217;t form spontaneously in Kabul over some nobody pastor in Florida burning Qurans. Somebody has to get the word out.</p>
<p>The Turks knew Obama was lying immediately; their consul general had to drive through Ansar Al Sharia&#8217;s barricades to leave the meeting he had with our ambassador. All sorts of countries have effective intelligence services; some our allies, some adversaries. They would have known if not immediately within a day or two exactly what happened. Lying about something that happened in public view in Libya&#8217;s second largest city makes about as much sense as lying about the Boston bombing. The truth is going to come out quickly. So these nation&#8217;s leaders knew, as Obama was sticking with the lie, that it was a lie. To our nation&#8217;s detriment as our allies were dismayed and are adversaries gleefully emboldened.</p>
<p>The groups that organized the Cairo riots and the Benghazi assault had in interest in advancing the anti-Muslim video lie just as much as the Obama administration. </p>
<p><a href="http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/10/jihadis-threaten-to-burn-u-s-embassy-in-cairo/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/09/10/jihadis-threaten-to-burn-u-s-embassy-in-cairo/</a></p>
<p>So this administration&#8217;s interests aligned with those of Ansar Al Sharia, Islamic Jihad, the Sunni Group, Al Gamaa Al Islamiyya, and the Muslim Brotherhood. That is, again, criminal. And our allies and our adversaries realized that.</p>
<p>We will be living with the effects of Obama&#8217;s criminal foreign policy and national security failures for a long, long time. We see many of those effects in Ukraine, the Baltics where Putin is also using agents to stir up trouble with Russian minorities, in the East China Sea where China is doing everything possible to provoke a war with Japan, in the South China Sea where China is more aggressively enforcing its maritime claims, etc.</p>
<p>And why not? We had already proven we would sit on our hands and do nothing in response to the sinking of an ally&#8217;s ship or when the NORKs shelled their islands, causing loss of life in both cases. Then we demonstrated we wouldn&#8217;t even defend sovereign US territory in the form of a diplomatic facility, again with loss of life. And I say we because this country re-elected this criminal. And now we have three more years to listen to the completely unqualified people in this administration from the top guy on down talk about how things that any sentient being can see are still having effects now happened &#8220;a long time ago&#8221; and we should get over it.</p>
<p>I will when Putin does.</p>
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		By: Molly NH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 17:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How different would have been the response had Chelsea &#038; her husband been on the premises ?
 The pain of Sean Smith&#039;s mother often seen on Fox.
God bless her on this sad for her upcoming Mother&#039;s Day !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How different would have been the response had Chelsea &amp; her husband been on the premises ?<br />
 The pain of Sean Smith&#8217;s mother often seen on Fox.<br />
God bless her on this sad for her upcoming Mother&#8217;s Day !</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 14:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Left doesn&#039;t need their god to have credibility, only authority and power. That, is still there.]]></description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 08:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Vietor was channeling Chip Diller with his &quot;all is well&quot; shtick. This was meant to reassure the base and hopefully sway some of the rubes.
But the administration&#039;s credibility isn&#039;t what it once was, even on the left. Obamacare saw to that.
And as more people tune out or default to the opposite of whatever the administration&#039;s position is, things are gonna get bad.

Obama maintained power for as long as he did because he is a demagogue. The way to attack a demagogue is to make him unpopular.

&lt;b&gt;P.S&lt;/b&gt;. I am getting the feeling that what soured it for liberals was the undeniable amateurishness of Obama&#039;s foreign policy. The left LOVES to think of themselves as worldly, and the one thing they can&#039;t stand is to be thought of as foolish by the rest of the world.
Funny, considering the rest of the world sucks compared to us.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vietor was channeling Chip Diller with his &#8220;all is well&#8221; shtick. This was meant to reassure the base and hopefully sway some of the rubes.<br />
But the administration&#8217;s credibility isn&#8217;t what it once was, even on the left. Obamacare saw to that.<br />
And as more people tune out or default to the opposite of whatever the administration&#8217;s position is, things are gonna get bad.</p>
<p>Obama maintained power for as long as he did because he is a demagogue. The way to attack a demagogue is to make him unpopular.</p>
<p><b>P.S</b>. I am getting the feeling that what soured it for liberals was the undeniable amateurishness of Obama&#8217;s foreign policy. The left LOVES to think of themselves as worldly, and the one thing they can&#8217;t stand is to be thought of as foolish by the rest of the world.<br />
Funny, considering the rest of the world sucks compared to us.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[and Wilson.) 

Wilson enabilded FDR who set the stage for LBJ who enabiled Carter-Clinton-BHO. Rot begins at the head of the fish; it smells foul all the way down.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Wilson.) </p>
<p>Wilson enabilded FDR who set the stage for LBJ who enabiled Carter-Clinton-BHO. Rot begins at the head of the fish; it smells foul all the way down.</p>
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		By: waitforit		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 00:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Warn&#039;t not war,&quot; you say. Yes, I say. War is full expression of power. Warn&#039;t we holding bakum? Yust like Vi-et-nam-um? That ain&#039;t war-um. Hell, we should rule the world taking the purposes of our soviet and marxist &quot;friends.&quot; They would  little deign to use any Power. WE HAVE THE POWER. We have not used it. Don&#039;t think that will last overlong long. Still an option. This President has used more power and espionage than any other. (Jefferson, Arbraham, Roosevelt, Nixon and Wilson.) supported by the full throated roar of the &quot;liberal.&quot; Well, no longer. At least that is one myth roasted by the fire.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Warn&#8217;t not war,&#8221; you say. Yes, I say. War is full expression of power. Warn&#8217;t we holding bakum? Yust like Vi-et-nam-um? That ain&#8217;t war-um. Hell, we should rule the world taking the purposes of our soviet and marxist &#8220;friends.&#8221; They would  little deign to use any Power. WE HAVE THE POWER. We have not used it. Don&#8217;t think that will last overlong long. Still an option. This President has used more power and espionage than any other. (Jefferson, Arbraham, Roosevelt, Nixon and Wilson.) supported by the full throated roar of the &#8220;liberal.&#8221; Well, no longer. At least that is one myth roasted by the fire.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 00:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Long history, not us, will reveal the Iraqi &quot;war,&quot; I believe, EriK the Red. It warn&#039;t not war, tis true, but how doth a lie appear in moonlight? That lie has disappeared; no spotlight exists to bring it home, but several are serving.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long history, not us, will reveal the Iraqi &#8220;war,&#8221; I believe, EriK the Red. It warn&#8217;t not war, tis true, but how doth a lie appear in moonlight? That lie has disappeared; no spotlight exists to bring it home, but several are serving.</p>
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