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		By: www.facebook.com		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/01/will-pickettys-book-change-the-world/#comment-835346</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 10:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FOS, classified as a prebiotic, is a non-caloric sweetener and also a 
fiber source. The Raw Food movement has exploded in the last 10 years drawing hundreds of 
thousands of people all over the world into its magic.

Pomegranates are a medium&#8211;glycemic, delicious fresh fruit and it is also possible to get dried, concentrated 
pomegranate powder and dried whole pomegranate seeds.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FOS, classified as a prebiotic, is a non-caloric sweetener and also a<br />
fiber source. The Raw Food movement has exploded in the last 10 years drawing hundreds of<br />
thousands of people all over the world into its magic.</p>
<p>Pomegranates are a medium&ndash;glycemic, delicious fresh fruit and it is also possible to get dried, concentrated<br />
pomegranate powder and dried whole pomegranate seeds.</p>
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		By: T		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/01/will-pickettys-book-change-the-world/#comment-769373</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[T]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 00:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[And  yet the fundamentally false premise remains unspoken, even here.  Ann above (@4:37) comes closest, but the fundamentally error ridden premise that income inequality is wrong and immoral.  It is not.

The ability to acquire wealth is a skill like any other.  Some people have it and some people don&#039;t.  The left relies on envy and projects greed onto the successful as if (and as noted by Thomas Sowell) greed alone will simply make someone want to give the greedy their money.

When a leftist incorrectly notes that income inequality is greater than it ever has been.  The response should be &quot;so what?&quot;  Piketty is addressing a solution to an imaginary problem of the left&#039;s own making.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And  yet the fundamentally false premise remains unspoken, even here.  Ann above (@4:37) comes closest, but the fundamentally error ridden premise that income inequality is wrong and immoral.  It is not.</p>
<p>The ability to acquire wealth is a skill like any other.  Some people have it and some people don&#8217;t.  The left relies on envy and projects greed onto the successful as if (and as noted by Thomas Sowell) greed alone will simply make someone want to give the greedy their money.</p>
<p>When a leftist incorrectly notes that income inequality is greater than it ever has been.  The response should be &#8220;so what?&#8221;  Piketty is addressing a solution to an imaginary problem of the left&#8217;s own making.</p>
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		By: OlderandWheezier		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 13:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Picketty, Picketty. my French hen,
He longs to rob wealthy men....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Picketty, Picketty. my French hen,<br />
He longs to rob wealthy men&#8230;.</p>
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		By: waitforit		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/01/will-pickettys-book-change-the-world/#comment-768519</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 03:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Plague does things. But we learned how to stop plague through sanitation. Sanitize. That&#039;s the answer. Works to stop our solutions. Works to stop their. Sanitize.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plague does things. But we learned how to stop plague through sanitation. Sanitize. That&#8217;s the answer. Works to stop our solutions. Works to stop their. Sanitize.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/01/will-pickettys-book-change-the-world/#comment-768509</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 02:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem with Art&#039;s belief that he can read the Art of War and other war manuals, and then be able to copy 100% of the wisdom and knowledge of the author in a single go, is that it leads to perfection tunnel vision. They get the idea that they can read things, like this blog, and understand everything in it and everyone in it, because reading is a 100% transfer to them.

The Left has a similar problem with their divine gods and their dogma. They think it is perfect, so can never admit the mistakes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with Art&#8217;s belief that he can read the Art of War and other war manuals, and then be able to copy 100% of the wisdom and knowledge of the author in a single go, is that it leads to perfection tunnel vision. They get the idea that they can read things, like this blog, and understand everything in it and everyone in it, because reading is a 100% transfer to them.</p>
<p>The Left has a similar problem with their divine gods and their dogma. They think it is perfect, so can never admit the mistakes.</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/05/01/will-pickettys-book-change-the-world/#comment-768413</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2014 00:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Geoffrey Britain: &quot;We agree on much JJ but here we part company. Communism is a totalitarian system. Exactly how is a totalitarian system ‘self-limiting’? 

Red China has failed spectacularly? By what measure? Economically, politically, ideologically?&quot;

Red China went bust. They had starved so many people and had such low capabilities of even feeding themselves, that they had to change. The same thing happened with the USSR.

The totalitarian features go on, just in a different form that allows more freedom to the population. The communist economics ends and the pressure on the &quot;comrades&quot; to conform to state policy is eased. Both China and Russia have resources and people who know how to utilize them. They  have shifted from a system where the people pretend to work, while the government pretends to pay them to a system where the oligarchs pay the people and the government no longer tries to control their thoughts and movements. 

I&#039;ve been to both Russia and China. The people there  are enjoying more freedom than  under the old regimes. One Russian told me that in the old days a Russian citizen could have been shot for photographing the KGB building or even sitting and staring at it. (Both things which I did in St. Petersberg.) They&#039;re certainly better fed, especially in China. Some in China and Russia have an opportunity to  move up economically, but the number is limited. Many have some hope of improving their lives and some living standards are improving. But it isn&#039;t communist economics and equality of outcome anymore. Russia is an oligarchy. China is a combination of oligarchy and fascism. They still call themselves communist, but they&#039;re not.

Fascism is still government oriented, but when you start from a low level and don&#039;t have much environmental regulation holding you back, you can create growth. Russia has not been as clever as the Chinese in  manipulating their trade and currency, and the oligarchs have been too greedy. As a result, they lag  the Chinese in economic growth.  If the Chinese were brought up short by the U.S. and made to trade on an equal basis (no tariffs on our products) with their currency floating like most  currencies do, their growth would not be nearly so robust. 

Zimbabwe is a better example. Mugabe has refused to change. When he took over, Zimbabwe was one of the richer countries in Africa.  They exported food. Today, they can&#039;t feed themselves. The country is  in a shambles. When Mugabe dies, it&#039;s almost certain they will turn to a fascist system, but they have driven out all the people with know how. They cannot do what Russia and China have done.

That&#039;s my take on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geoffrey Britain: &#8220;We agree on much JJ but here we part company. Communism is a totalitarian system. Exactly how is a totalitarian system ‘self-limiting’? </p>
<p>Red China has failed spectacularly? By what measure? Economically, politically, ideologically?&#8221;</p>
<p>Red China went bust. They had starved so many people and had such low capabilities of even feeding themselves, that they had to change. The same thing happened with the USSR.</p>
<p>The totalitarian features go on, just in a different form that allows more freedom to the population. The communist economics ends and the pressure on the &#8220;comrades&#8221; to conform to state policy is eased. Both China and Russia have resources and people who know how to utilize them. They  have shifted from a system where the people pretend to work, while the government pretends to pay them to a system where the oligarchs pay the people and the government no longer tries to control their thoughts and movements. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been to both Russia and China. The people there  are enjoying more freedom than  under the old regimes. One Russian told me that in the old days a Russian citizen could have been shot for photographing the KGB building or even sitting and staring at it. (Both things which I did in St. Petersberg.) They&#8217;re certainly better fed, especially in China. Some in China and Russia have an opportunity to  move up economically, but the number is limited. Many have some hope of improving their lives and some living standards are improving. But it isn&#8217;t communist economics and equality of outcome anymore. Russia is an oligarchy. China is a combination of oligarchy and fascism. They still call themselves communist, but they&#8217;re not.</p>
<p>Fascism is still government oriented, but when you start from a low level and don&#8217;t have much environmental regulation holding you back, you can create growth. Russia has not been as clever as the Chinese in  manipulating their trade and currency, and the oligarchs have been too greedy. As a result, they lag  the Chinese in economic growth.  If the Chinese were brought up short by the U.S. and made to trade on an equal basis (no tariffs on our products) with their currency floating like most  currencies do, their growth would not be nearly so robust. </p>
<p>Zimbabwe is a better example. Mugabe has refused to change. When he took over, Zimbabwe was one of the richer countries in Africa.  They exported food. Today, they can&#8217;t feed themselves. The country is  in a shambles. When Mugabe dies, it&#8217;s almost certain they will turn to a fascist system, but they have driven out all the people with know how. They cannot do what Russia and China have done.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my take on it.</p>
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		By: rickl		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 23:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Here is my favorite comment at the PJM article, by &quot;tdiinva&quot;.  I voted to &quot;like&quot; it, but it&#039;s not yet among the top-rated comments.  It bears repeating:

&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt;The new Democratic Party socialist elite want something more than their immediate predecessors. They values power over lives of people more than material gain. This elite is intent on making over American society in the image a Peoples Republic where the vanguard elite has absolute power. Their entire program is based on three elements, impoverish, immobilize and disarm the people. Like the Soviets there will only be two types of people: the rulers who will have everything and the ruled who will have nothing. The socialist order will be enforced as it always has — at the point of a gun. Just remember one thing, a socialist is unfulfilled unless he can commit mass murder. Killing the unborn, the unfit and the elderly can’t satisfy him forever.&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my favorite comment at the PJM article, by &#8220;tdiinva&#8221;.  I voted to &#8220;like&#8221; it, but it&#8217;s not yet among the top-rated comments.  It bears repeating:</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p>The new Democratic Party socialist elite want something more than their immediate predecessors. They values power over lives of people more than material gain. This elite is intent on making over American society in the image a Peoples Republic where the vanguard elite has absolute power. Their entire program is based on three elements, impoverish, immobilize and disarm the people. Like the Soviets there will only be two types of people: the rulers who will have everything and the ruled who will have nothing. The socialist order will be enforced as it always has — at the point of a gun. Just remember one thing, a socialist is unfulfilled unless he can commit mass murder. Killing the unborn, the unfit and the elderly can’t satisfy him forever.</p></blockquote>
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		By: Geoffrey Britain		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;communism is a self limiting system. Both Red China and the USSR failed spectacularly. They just don’t last.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 

We agree on much JJ but here we part company. Communism is a totalitarian system. Exactly how is a &lt;i&gt;totalitarian&lt;/i&gt; system &#039;self-limiting&#039;? 

Red China has failed spectacularly? By what measure? Economically, politically, ideologically? 

I suspect that perhaps you posit that China is no longer Red China. One party government with no individual or minority rights would appear to qualify as politically communistic. Economically, does anyone imagine that the bulk of China&#039;s &#039;private&#039; profits do not end up in the hands of the political elite and their cronies?

The underlying memes, assumptions and premises that support communism are alive and well in the world, as the support for Piketty&#039;s book demonstrates. And as long as communism&#039;s premises are popular, communism&#039;s demise is greatly exaggerated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;communism is a self limiting system. Both Red China and the USSR failed spectacularly. They just don’t last.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>We agree on much JJ but here we part company. Communism is a totalitarian system. Exactly how is a <i>totalitarian</i> system &#8216;self-limiting&#8217;? </p>
<p>Red China has failed spectacularly? By what measure? Economically, politically, ideologically? </p>
<p>I suspect that perhaps you posit that China is no longer Red China. One party government with no individual or minority rights would appear to qualify as politically communistic. Economically, does anyone imagine that the bulk of China&#8217;s &#8216;private&#8217; profits do not end up in the hands of the political elite and their cronies?</p>
<p>The underlying memes, assumptions and premises that support communism are alive and well in the world, as the support for Piketty&#8217;s book demonstrates. And as long as communism&#8217;s premises are popular, communism&#8217;s demise is greatly exaggerated.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 21:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric:

Yes, I agree that the information could actually be complementary rather than in opposition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric:</p>
<p>Yes, I agree that the information could actually be complementary rather than in opposition.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eric]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2014 21:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Artfldgr, Neo,

I haven&#039;t read Neo&#039;s PJM piece yet, but based on the bits referenced here, it strikes me that Artfldgr&#039;s comments work as supplement, though they&#039;re couched as correction.

Ann, 

The problem isn&#039;t the tangible market, but the intangible one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr, Neo,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read Neo&#8217;s PJM piece yet, but based on the bits referenced here, it strikes me that Artfldgr&#8217;s comments work as supplement, though they&#8217;re couched as correction.</p>
<p>Ann, </p>
<p>The problem isn&#8217;t the tangible market, but the intangible one.</p>
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