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		By: Minta Marie Morze		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/03/16/the-flight-370-plot-thickens/#comment-749555</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minta Marie Morze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I guess I just don&#039;t like the idea that all limits can be judged by averages and manufactured tolerances. I think to myself, if someone wanted to do XYZ, how would they do it? And then I try to think of a way within a certain proximity of the tolerances and constraints.

The information as it has been dribbled out is of handshakes at points along an interpolated path, each separated by as long as an hour. We don&#039;t really know how low they flew at any given moment, or how slow. For a portion of one of the hours, low and slow makes it possible. Moreover, I think that anyone involved with what this looks like had enough courage to do what they felt they had to do. 

The captain had 18,000-plus hours, and a flight simulator at home. He was an acknowledged expert. And we don&#039;t really know how much of the information we are being given is accurate. I have to believe that the involved governments know a lot more than they say about everything they talk about.

I am just saying, we can&#039;t eliminate the possibility that the plane was made capable of flying farther than is assumed by lightening the load. 

But then, for all we know, our people know where the plane is and are waiting to see what will happen to it before they act. Or there are already ransom negotiations going on. Or . . .  And all sides are playing mind games with each other, that we do know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I just don&#8217;t like the idea that all limits can be judged by averages and manufactured tolerances. I think to myself, if someone wanted to do XYZ, how would they do it? And then I try to think of a way within a certain proximity of the tolerances and constraints.</p>
<p>The information as it has been dribbled out is of handshakes at points along an interpolated path, each separated by as long as an hour. We don&#8217;t really know how low they flew at any given moment, or how slow. For a portion of one of the hours, low and slow makes it possible. Moreover, I think that anyone involved with what this looks like had enough courage to do what they felt they had to do. </p>
<p>The captain had 18,000-plus hours, and a flight simulator at home. He was an acknowledged expert. And we don&#8217;t really know how much of the information we are being given is accurate. I have to believe that the involved governments know a lot more than they say about everything they talk about.</p>
<p>I am just saying, we can&#8217;t eliminate the possibility that the plane was made capable of flying farther than is assumed by lightening the load. </p>
<p>But then, for all we know, our people know where the plane is and are waiting to see what will happen to it before they act. Or there are already ransom negotiations going on. Or . . .  And all sides are playing mind games with each other, that we do know.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 23:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Minta Maria Morze:

Many people think they may have murdered the passengers by decompressing the cabin.  It is a definite possibility, and they wouldn&#039;t have needed to go as high as 46,000 feet to do it.  If they decompressed the cabin and used oxygen themselves, even a much lower altitude (30s or even less) would cause unconsciousness and death.  The only thing the greater height would do would be to do it a bit more quickly, but it would be relatively quick even at normal cruising altitudes.

That said, I doubt they could have dumped the passengers without being sucked out themselves.  I&#039;m no airplane expert, but I think something like that is quite dangerous while going at high speeds and anything but a very low altitude.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Minta Maria Morze:</p>
<p>Many people think they may have murdered the passengers by decompressing the cabin.  It is a definite possibility, and they wouldn&#8217;t have needed to go as high as 46,000 feet to do it.  If they decompressed the cabin and used oxygen themselves, even a much lower altitude (30s or even less) would cause unconsciousness and death.  The only thing the greater height would do would be to do it a bit more quickly, but it would be relatively quick even at normal cruising altitudes.</p>
<p>That said, I doubt they could have dumped the passengers without being sucked out themselves.  I&#8217;m no airplane expert, but I think something like that is quite dangerous while going at high speeds and anything but a very low altitude.</p>
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		By: Minta Marie Morze		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minta Marie Morze]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 23:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a terrible thought, what if the passengers were murdered either by the first rise in altitude by the missing plane, or, immediately after the ones who finally piloted it regained control, by a deliberate decompression of the passenger area–with the few people in control prepared with oxygen masks. Once everyone but the terrorists have died, the small handful of terrorists could empty the plane of everything that could be moved to a door as it flew over water, removing many, many tons of weight, thus making the fuel last longer because of the much lighter plane. It could have stayed in the air longer and flown much farther than if it was “heavy” with passengers.

Wouldn’t this make a considerable difference in the range of the plane??]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a terrible thought, what if the passengers were murdered either by the first rise in altitude by the missing plane, or, immediately after the ones who finally piloted it regained control, by a deliberate decompression of the passenger area–with the few people in control prepared with oxygen masks. Once everyone but the terrorists have died, the small handful of terrorists could empty the plane of everything that could be moved to a door as it flew over water, removing many, many tons of weight, thus making the fuel last longer because of the much lighter plane. It could have stayed in the air longer and flown much farther than if it was “heavy” with passengers.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t this make a considerable difference in the range of the plane??</p>
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		By: Surellin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Surellin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another factoid - it is being reported that the captain&#039;s wife and children moved out of the house the day before the flight.  Can we add &quot;crazy with grief and rage&quot; to the rest of the possible motivations?  Or possibly they were getting out of Dodge before the posse showed up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another factoid &#8211; it is being reported that the captain&#8217;s wife and children moved out of the house the day before the flight.  Can we add &#8220;crazy with grief and rage&#8221; to the rest of the possible motivations?  Or possibly they were getting out of Dodge before the posse showed up.</p>
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		By: Amy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 14:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;s a jihadi martyrdom by the captain, you would think he would want to communicate that fact. And maybe he did, but that information is not being shared.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s a jihadi martyrdom by the captain, you would think he would want to communicate that fact. And maybe he did, but that information is not being shared.</p>
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		By: renminbi		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[An interesting factoid. Three of the four AC deliberately flown into the surface were piloted by Moslems.

   Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch) reports that Anwar Ibrahim was involved with a Muslim Brotherhood front.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/democracy-is-dead-pilot-of-missing-malaysian-airliner-was-fanatical-supporter-of-muslim-brotherhood-linked-politician?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&#038;utm_campaign=37ca344dcc-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-37ca344dcc-123393250]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting factoid. Three of the four AC deliberately flown into the surface were piloted by Moslems.</p>
<p>   Robert Spencer (Jihad Watch) reports that Anwar Ibrahim was involved with a Muslim Brotherhood front.<br />
<a href="http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/democracy-is-dead-pilot-of-missing-malaysian-airliner-was-fanatical-supporter-of-muslim-brotherhood-linked-politician?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&#038;utm_campaign=37ca344dcc-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-37ca344dcc-123393250" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/democracy-is-dead-pilot-of-missing-malaysian-airliner-was-fanatical-supporter-of-muslim-brotherhood-linked-politician?utm_source=Jihad+Watch+Daily+Digest&#038;utm_campaign=37ca344dcc-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&#038;utm_medium=email&#038;utm_term=0_ffcbf57bbb-37ca344dcc-123393250</a></p>
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		By: Lee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 11:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It has gone the way of American Pride FLight 29:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZml5XCoYn8

And flown through a time rip!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has gone the way of American Pride FLight 29:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZml5XCoYn8" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZml5XCoYn8</a></p>
<p>And flown through a time rip!</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My theory is less political and more anthropological:  Captain leaves cockpit to go to bathroom or something.  First Officer Romeo takes opportunity to invite hot chick who has been making eyes at him into cockpit.  Romeo decides now would be perfect time for him and chick to join the Mile-High Club, locks cockpit door.  Whilst in the heat of the moment, so to speak, one of them bumps transponder switch off, the other pulls on the yoke, sending plane to 43,000 feet and off course.  Everybody conks out due to lack of oxygen, autopilot returns plane to normal cruising altitude, plane flies itself until it runs out of fuel and crashes into the Marianas Trench, never to be found. unless James Cameron decides to look for it.

That&#039;s my story and I&#039;m sticking to it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My theory is less political and more anthropological:  Captain leaves cockpit to go to bathroom or something.  First Officer Romeo takes opportunity to invite hot chick who has been making eyes at him into cockpit.  Romeo decides now would be perfect time for him and chick to join the Mile-High Club, locks cockpit door.  Whilst in the heat of the moment, so to speak, one of them bumps transponder switch off, the other pulls on the yoke, sending plane to 43,000 feet and off course.  Everybody conks out due to lack of oxygen, autopilot returns plane to normal cruising altitude, plane flies itself until it runs out of fuel and crashes into the Marianas Trench, never to be found. unless James Cameron decides to look for it.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my story and I&#8217;m sticking to it!</p>
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		By: J.J.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 06:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I will trot out one fact that I&#039;m sure of.  The cabin pressure on any modern airliner can be controlled from the cockpit.  If the cabin pressure was increased gently to 13,000 feet, all the passengers and flight attendants would get sleepy and then become unconscious. Not exceeding 13,000 feet would not cause the passenger oxygen masks to deploy. After the pax and attendants are all unconscious, the cabin altitude could be raised and the oxygen mask deployment would not be noticed. Raising it further into the death zone above 18,000 feet would eventually kill all on board. The pilots could survive  with their oxygen masks on, but their oxygen supply is not  inexhaustible. Eventually the pilots would have to re-pressurize the aircraft to below 10,000 feet so they could go  off oxygen. That is one scenario for taking over the aircraft from the cockpit. Of course, the co-pilot would have to be in on it or killed by the Captain.  That&#039;s a pretty bizarre scenario, but this is a bizarre aviation mystery. 

Other than that, I have no opinions to offer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will trot out one fact that I&#8217;m sure of.  The cabin pressure on any modern airliner can be controlled from the cockpit.  If the cabin pressure was increased gently to 13,000 feet, all the passengers and flight attendants would get sleepy and then become unconscious. Not exceeding 13,000 feet would not cause the passenger oxygen masks to deploy. After the pax and attendants are all unconscious, the cabin altitude could be raised and the oxygen mask deployment would not be noticed. Raising it further into the death zone above 18,000 feet would eventually kill all on board. The pilots could survive  with their oxygen masks on, but their oxygen supply is not  inexhaustible. Eventually the pilots would have to re-pressurize the aircraft to below 10,000 feet so they could go  off oxygen. That is one scenario for taking over the aircraft from the cockpit. Of course, the co-pilot would have to be in on it or killed by the Captain.  That&#8217;s a pretty bizarre scenario, but this is a bizarre aviation mystery. </p>
<p>Other than that, I have no opinions to offer.</p>
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		By: RTsquard		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2014 04:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One of the baffling mysteries of this has been that an unidentified and uncommunicative 777 could overfly Thailand and Malaysia (the peninsula) while being observed by military radar without either air force scrambling an interceptor to investigate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the baffling mysteries of this has been that an unidentified and uncommunicative 777 could overfly Thailand and Malaysia (the peninsula) while being observed by military radar without either air force scrambling an interceptor to investigate.</p>
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