If a patriot thinks we should go to Iraq to kill terrorists, that’s different from a Leftist saying we should go into Country X to kill terrorists.

People are still stuck on “politics”, as if it means anything. You are either with the Left, or you are not. If you are, you are evil or a tool of evil. There is no “political discussion” on that point.

The Japanese consider US instilled pacifism and constitutional limits on military spending, to be a sort of welfare with all the attendant national and personal weaknesses that produces.

Japan has since around 2007, been re arming their military organizations and retraining new generations of military officers.

The Left has not particularly corrupted or destroyed Japan’s nationalism or patriotic civic pride. The Left has destroyed much of Europe and America’s cultural defenses. That will have a logistical effect on future military conflicts.

Recent History anyone? Sept. 11, 2001. Middle East on Fire more than ever. Iran nuking. Iraq, after abandonment of American Victory by Obama, is in Islamist driven chaos. Syria…A Blood Pit. Etc, Etc, Etc. China becoming adventursome and expansionist. Russia same. North Korea a nuke armed starving gulag.

HISTORY TEACHES & tEACHES & TEACHES: WEAKNESS IS PROVOCATIVE.

This Punk & Moral Coward in the White House for 5-years has diminished us. Our Enemies laugh at us and our Friends no longer trust us. ALL within stupendously easy memory of 9-11-2001.

After a successful nuclear terrorist attack, it would NOT be a case of Obama or any other President imposing martial law. The chaos, disorder, economic shock and the resultant public’s mind-set would demand the declaration of martial law. That would provide Obama or a Pres. Hillary Clinton with the perfect ‘opportunity’ to legally suspend key provisions of the Constitution. Which would allow the left to far more quickly and fundamentally transform America into The United Socialist States of Amerika.

Yes there would be assassination attempts and armed civil unrest, which is what the DHS armed preparation is about and under martial law, the US military is going to back up the ‘lawfully elected’ federal government. A far more serious ‘patriot act’ would result and if its used to jail conservative ‘extremists’ threatening ‘national security’…

SCOTTtheBADGER,

Your astonishment and bafflement stems I suspect from the assumption that the Obama administration and the democrats want to protect this country and, if necessary are willing to use the military to do so. Personally, I see no evidence of that but I’m open to persuasion otherwise.

In late 1945, we had over 150 carriers, ( 125 Escort carriers of various classes, 1 SARATOGA class, 1 YORKTOWN class, [ The ENTERPRISE! ], 14 ESSEX class Fleet Carriers, 9 INDEPENDENCE Class light carriers, 2 SAIPAN class light carriers, and 3 MIDWAY class large carriers ). We now have a dozen, and we must remember, only a third will be on station, one third will be enroute either to the area of operational responsibility,or returning from it, and one third in overhaul. So, we really only have 4. As opposed to 50 in 1945. Yes, the modern carrier is far more powerful than it’s WWII sister, but you can only spread 4 carrier so thin.

WWIII is coming over the horizon, and a major part of it will be a naval war in the SW Pacific, and the South China Sea. I am quite concerned about the outcome.

History is The Narrative chosen by the winners.

The lesson that all Democrats, including and maybe especially the Clintons, learned during the Bush administration is that The Narrative – which is a function of an effective Marxist-method activist movement – trumps truth in the social-political market.

Bill Clinton flipped 180 on his initial strong endorsement of the Iraq mission and Bush, based on Clinton’s dealings with Saddam, in a belated, clumsy attempt to conform to the blatantly false narrative wielded by the Left and Dems (with a boost by Paul and others on the Right).

Clinton should not have been able to get away with flipping his position so awkwardly and out in the open. The Dems never should have gotten away with their blatantly false narrative of the Iraq mission.

And they didn’t, really.

It wasn’t the Dems that got away with lying. The Left’s Marxist-method movement carried the Dems and engineered the victory of The Narrative over truth. Clinton sold out whatever integrity he had left and was amply rewarded. (The rare Dem who didn’t sell out, such as Joe Lieberman, was punished and ostracized.) The movement delivered the payment as promised for its influence with the Dems, a price the Tea Party promised but failed to pay the GOP.

At this point, the priority of place granted to individual politicians is misplaced. That’s the old way of thinking. There will be no messianic saviors coming from the GOP. That’s not the game anymore.

As I’ve said, the center of gravity of the Dems success is the winning Marxist-method movement the Dems have plugged into.

The movement is the origin point. If she wins, Clinton will be beholden to the movement just as Obama and the Dems are now. The Dems have sold out, but they’ve been rewarded for the relationship.

The real contest is no longer between Dems and GOP candidates.

The real contest is between Marxist-method popular-political movements. The problem is, the people on the Right have neglected to provide a competitive Marxist-method movement to carry the GOP.

So, what would Hillary Clinton do if she wins the Presidency? That’s the old question.

The relevant question is, what would the movement to which Hillary Clinton and the Dems are beholden have her do?

As far as coastal cities being nuked…this is what happens when you elect a socialist. Some mutherf*ckers are gonna have to die before people start getting it. And if it takes a million or so victims, so be it.

…it’s not like *I* voted for him!