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		By: futbol picante radio		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-762106</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[futbol picante radio]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2014 13:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The situation is perfectly fine to indulge in the a few so to not benefit probably not keep on for an 
long time. Chilies can be stored in vinegar to add 
picante to any type of dish. It&#039;s enough 
to invite you back on another South usa vacation. They then ship 
their goods north, across the border, with a driver who travels door to 
door to the stores they know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The situation is perfectly fine to indulge in the a few so to not benefit probably not keep on for an<br />
long time. Chilies can be stored in vinegar to add<br />
picante to any type of dish. It&#8217;s enough<br />
to invite you back on another South usa vacation. They then ship<br />
their goods north, across the border, with a driver who travels door to<br />
door to the stores they know.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-739706</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As Rick mentioned, things worked for a time at Plymouth, up until people started dying of starvation. Then it stopped working.

As such socialism isn&#039;t so much a solution, as it is the Final Solution implemented when one wants to wipe out humanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Rick mentioned, things worked for a time at Plymouth, up until people started dying of starvation. Then it stopped working.</p>
<p>As such socialism isn&#8217;t so much a solution, as it is the Final Solution implemented when one wants to wipe out humanity.</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738958</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Define &quot;socialism&quot;?  There are literally hundreds of definitions.  I just filed for early retirement after 6 months unemployment, that aspect of socialism I happen to like.

and

Lust is a mortal sin?
I&#039;m dead meat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Define &#8220;socialism&#8221;?  There are literally hundreds of definitions.  I just filed for early retirement after 6 months unemployment, that aspect of socialism I happen to like.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>Lust is a mortal sin?<br />
I&#8217;m dead meat.</p>
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		By: RickZ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738843</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 13:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Edit:  &quot;Those who worked hard, but saw those who worked &lt;b&gt;little&lt;/b&gt; get the literal fruits of their labor, began to slack off.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Edit:  &#8220;Those who worked hard, but saw those who worked <b>little</b> get the literal fruits of their labor, began to slack off.</p>
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		By: RickZ		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738841</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RickZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Feb 2014 12:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Don Says: 

Socialism in fact undermines functional society.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Socialism has been tried before in this Country, and right at its founding, in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, before the word &#039;socialism&#039; even existed.  It&#039;s one of those pesky historical facts people are not taught in school.

Back then, the Colony was set up so that the product of farm labor, food, was divvied up by need.  So if you needed a lot of food for a family, but didn&#039;t actually do any work in the fields, you still got your &#039;share&#039;.  What happened next is human nature writ large.  Those who worked hard, but saw those who worked get the literal fruits of their labor, began to slack off.  As less labor was put into producing food, the volume of food dropped.  The Colony nearly starved to death as people quit working for someone else&#039;s comfort.  If it weren&#039;t for the kindness of the Natives giving their food to the starving colonists, the colony would have died or had to be abandoned.  Thanksgiving takes on a whole new meaning with that story in mind.

The rules had to be changed to a more capitalist system, for want of a better description, where one grew one&#039;s own food, that is, one was responsible for themselves and their own families.  Food charity was still encouraged, but it was voluntary.  As a result, food production increased and the colony was saved.

Socialism does not work.  Period.  It runs straight up against human nature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Don Says: </p>
<p>Socialism in fact undermines functional society.</p></blockquote>
<p>Socialism has been tried before in this Country, and right at its founding, in the Massachusetts Bay Colony, before the word &#8216;socialism&#8217; even existed.  It&#8217;s one of those pesky historical facts people are not taught in school.</p>
<p>Back then, the Colony was set up so that the product of farm labor, food, was divvied up by need.  So if you needed a lot of food for a family, but didn&#8217;t actually do any work in the fields, you still got your &#8216;share&#8217;.  What happened next is human nature writ large.  Those who worked hard, but saw those who worked get the literal fruits of their labor, began to slack off.  As less labor was put into producing food, the volume of food dropped.  The Colony nearly starved to death as people quit working for someone else&#8217;s comfort.  If it weren&#8217;t for the kindness of the Natives giving their food to the starving colonists, the colony would have died or had to be abandoned.  Thanksgiving takes on a whole new meaning with that story in mind.</p>
<p>The rules had to be changed to a more capitalist system, for want of a better description, where one grew one&#8217;s own food, that is, one was responsible for themselves and their own families.  Food charity was still encouraged, but it was voluntary.  As a result, food production increased and the colony was saved.</p>
<p>Socialism does not work.  Period.  It runs straight up against human nature.</p>
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		By: The Atheist Conservative: &#187; The sweet poisonous idea that will never die		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738579</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Atheist Conservative: &#187; The sweet poisonous idea that will never die]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Feb 2014 16:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] quotation from the great Austrian School economist von Mises occurs in an article by Jean Kaufman at her website Neo-Neocon. Her article makes the point that Socialism/Communism [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] quotation from the great Austrian School economist von Mises occurs in an article by Jean Kaufman at her website Neo-Neocon. Her article makes the point that Socialism/Communism [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738372</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Healthy societies have socialism in the same fashion that humans have diseases. You recover from them or else your body works for a time... and then stops.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Healthy societies have socialism in the same fashion that humans have diseases. You recover from them or else your body works for a time&#8230; and then stops.</p>
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		By: expat		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738338</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[expat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 20:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don,
Speaking of East Germany: I visited Leipzig in the spring after the wall came down. We stayed at a building previously used to house foregn students that was across the street from the Nicolauskirche, where the weekly protests started. We stayed (for a few days) in a 1-room apartment with a kitchenette and a bath. The stopper for the bathtub was attached with a bit of plastic that we use to attach price tags to clothing. The water tank was made of plastic like clorex bottles are made of. It was mounted above the toilet and the chain to flush was also of plastic, which broke about 3 times while we were there. In the old Rathouse basement, the was a restaurant and the guest toilets had water faucets also made of plastic. The whole time I was there, I tried to imagine what it must be like for the skilled handworkers to have to produce such crappy stuff. I mean they had a great tradition of building beautiful and functional things, and that tradition was broken. Beautiful old buildings were allowed to deteriorate and concrete boxes were used to house the slaves. Talk about destroying the human spirit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don,<br />
Speaking of East Germany: I visited Leipzig in the spring after the wall came down. We stayed at a building previously used to house foregn students that was across the street from the Nicolauskirche, where the weekly protests started. We stayed (for a few days) in a 1-room apartment with a kitchenette and a bath. The stopper for the bathtub was attached with a bit of plastic that we use to attach price tags to clothing. The water tank was made of plastic like clorex bottles are made of. It was mounted above the toilet and the chain to flush was also of plastic, which broke about 3 times while we were there. In the old Rathouse basement, the was a restaurant and the guest toilets had water faucets also made of plastic. The whole time I was there, I tried to imagine what it must be like for the skilled handworkers to have to produce such crappy stuff. I mean they had a great tradition of building beautiful and functional things, and that tradition was broken. Beautiful old buildings were allowed to deteriorate and concrete boxes were used to house the slaves. Talk about destroying the human spirit.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738300</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In my post above, read &quot;However, if you want to consider the military as socialism, note well, it is not supporting&quot; as &quot;However, if you want to consider the military as socialism, note well, it is not SELF supporting&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my post above, read &#8220;However, if you want to consider the military as socialism, note well, it is not supporting&#8221; as &#8220;However, if you want to consider the military as socialism, note well, it is not SELF supporting&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2014/02/06/the-undead/#comment-738299</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;
I don’t consider socialism to be a “parasitic system which must live off of a host”, unless you consider the US Military to be a parasite draining the US — which, to be fair, many people do.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yet, the US military is not a self sustaining system. 

I view the military not as a socialist system, but as a tool for our defense. If drone tech was sufficiently advanced the military could be replaced by drones, and Americans would not have to risk their lives in war (not saying that would be good, but pointing out the &quot;tool&quot; aspect of the military).

However, if you want to consider the military as socialism, note well, it is not supporting. And historically armies that were not paid for lived off of rape and plunder, the support for the army was in effect outsourced to the unfortunates who inhabited the region where the army was opperating. 

You can&#039;t count an army as a complete system. It needs someone to feed it, provide it with material, etc. It can&#039;t &quot;succeed&quot; on its own.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>
I don’t consider socialism to be a “parasitic system which must live off of a host”, unless you consider the US Military to be a parasite draining the US — which, to be fair, many people do.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Yet, the US military is not a self sustaining system. </p>
<p>I view the military not as a socialist system, but as a tool for our defense. If drone tech was sufficiently advanced the military could be replaced by drones, and Americans would not have to risk their lives in war (not saying that would be good, but pointing out the &#8220;tool&#8221; aspect of the military).</p>
<p>However, if you want to consider the military as socialism, note well, it is not supporting. And historically armies that were not paid for lived off of rape and plunder, the support for the army was in effect outsourced to the unfortunates who inhabited the region where the army was opperating. </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t count an army as a complete system. It needs someone to feed it, provide it with material, etc. It can&#8217;t &#8220;succeed&#8221; on its own.</p>
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