That only applies selectively to yourself and the like. There are plenty of individual agents in the right conservative movement who are interested in more than politics. They just don’t have as much propaganda access as the talking heads of the Republican party or the average internet social commenter.

Keidor needs to have an upgrade to his pseudo Turing emulation protocols. He’s missed a critical point about tactics and strategy in war and politics.

Eric isn’t talking about debating with Alinsky protocols and propaganda, but what Breitbart did with ACORN. Let them draw out their excuses, focus their damage control, and draw attention to the issue with their counter attacks or defenses. Then pull another one on them and watch their house collapse, again.

A good example of the technique is Jon Stewart’s Mau-Mauing of O’Reilly’s Obama interview. He mocked Fox and O’Reilly with gusto without ever addressing the issues. Here’s Stewart: “Fox News is attempting to distract us, [and] rather than being a news organization, they are a spite-driven anger machine rooted in a fear that any change in the status quo will inevitably erode our nation’s traditional power structure, leading to internment camps for ‘real Americans,’ powered by solar energy and tacos. Wait! Hard-shell, gay tacos.” Actually, brilliant Alinsky technique.
See it here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/05/jon-stewart-oreilly-obama_n_4730009.html

What Stewart is doing is what conservatives should be doing. Use humor and mock them mercilessly. But we don’t because we’re actually interested in the issues and believe in our philosophy, not in destroying the opposition.

It’s a shame you don’t have anything to make you feel alive. Try thinking for yourself sometime, and — yes — taking your own thoughts seriously. It’s amazing how invigorating that can be. In any event, we aren’t surprised to see you skedaddle without a coherent word in your own defense!

Social action is necessary and only a proper insurgent Marxist-method activist popular movement can be sufficient.

That works, but if I recall correctly, The Mule deployed freak psychic powers. I don’t attribute as much to Obama.

From schoolboy literature, I think Obama compares more to Greg Stillson from Stephen King’s The Dead Zone. As I said, Obama is a textbook Max Weber charismatic authority.

“People wanted to believe”

That’s the normative power of The Narrative and The Zeitgeist achieved by a Marxist-method activist popular movement. Obama didn’t rise to the Presidency on his own merits. He rose as a charismatic avatar of a victorious Marxist-method activist movement.

Meaning what?

Meaning Americans have identified themselves with the norms programmed by the movement represented by Obama. They’ve internalized it. This is about their image of their selves and their community, not merely about Obama.

The two-step of prying them loose from voting for the Dems *and* supporting the GOP will take more than criticizing Obama or any individual Democrat or any specific issue. It requires prying loose and exorcising the underlying The Narrative and The Zeitgeist that Americans have internalized in their hearts and minds. It requires replacing current politically correct norms with different normative, politically correct The Narrative and The Zeitgeist.

Changing hearts and minds will require Americans to undertake the praxis of confession and conversion – to change, as Neo talks about her awakening. To teach the teachers. That process will take a lot more than criticizing Obama.

It will take changing – rebooting and reprogramming – the General Will, the collective consciousness, of We The People.

Replacing The Narrative and The Zeitgeist and re-setting America’s norms requires countering and decisively defeating the Dems/Left across the social-political-cultural spectrum with a superior insurgent Marxist-method activist popular movement from the Right.

Again, as long as their The Narrative and The Zeitgeist remain socially dominant, people will be hard-pressed to act against their default, internalized collective consciousness and make the radical leap from rejecting the Dems/Left to internalizing the Right’s preferred norms and actively choosing the GOP.

Unpopularity of the Dems and Obama doesn’t do the job. If The People don’t take the active 2nd step of choosing the GOP and requesting the Right’s preferred norms, then the Dems/Left win.

In the event of a draw, the champion retains the title.

Focusing on Obama the avatar barely scratches the surface of the work the people of the GOP and the Right need to do in order to save America.

JJ: “Marty is using the Alinsky method. … The best advice is to ignore them because their only goal is to stir you up and try to confuse you.”

In my activist days, I relished published Alinskyite attacks on my cause because letters to the editor were a specialty of mine.

My side’s resources were severely limited so I looked forward to using anything that opposing activists added to the arena from their superior capabilities.

Their Alinskyite attacks were opportunities to use the public attention they garnered. My responses used the Alinskyite attacks as jumping off points to reframe, repeat, and clarify my side’s message to the public and build our movement.

The way to win a game is not not-playing the game. The way to win a game is to play the game to win. And the Marxist-method activist game is the only social-political game there is.

1) They believe their own bullshlt (just like President If You Like Your Plan believes his own B.S.);

2) They vote, probably multiple times.

Reasoning skills like this go a long way toward explaining why Keidor’s so eager to stop other people from thinking.

Others before me really have this covered, but nonetheless, here are seven pages of Disraeli quotations from a site called “Brainy Quotes,” not including Keidor’s quotation:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/b/benjamin_disraeli.html

And here’s the first page of the same site’s quotations from Winston Churchill. You won’t have to scroll very far down:
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/w/winston_churchill.html