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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711847</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 22:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert...Good call, amigo. I&#039;m looking across our study at the ex-library copy of the Admiral&#039;s worthy book,&quot;Carrier Admiral&quot;, as I reply. Sits next to, &quot;Miracle at Midway&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert&#8230;Good call, amigo. I&#8217;m looking across our study at the ex-library copy of the Admiral&#8217;s worthy book,&#8221;Carrier Admiral&#8221;, as I reply. Sits next to, &#8220;Miracle at Midway&#8221;.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711838</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 21:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric...Yep. Just read GWB&#039;s 2nd Inaug. speech, January 20, 2005. It&#039;s a Barn Burner. One of the greats. And, about as far opposite from Obama&#039;s blather as one can find. 

On the night of the Ft.Hood butchery, GWB arrived there to comfort the wounded and shocked/grieving families. That same day---post shooting---the Boy King continued political &#039;shout outs&#039; to supporters in the upper mid-west. Character anyone????]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric&#8230;Yep. Just read GWB&#8217;s 2nd Inaug. speech, January 20, 2005. It&#8217;s a Barn Burner. One of the greats. And, about as far opposite from Obama&#8217;s blather as one can find. </p>
<p>On the night of the Ft.Hood butchery, GWB arrived there to comfort the wounded and shocked/grieving families. That same day&#8212;post shooting&#8212;the Boy King continued political &#8216;shout outs&#8217; to supporters in the upper mid-west. Character anyone????</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711727</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 18:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In 2009 I was in Oahu HI for several days and attepted to visit the USS Arizona memorial. When you show up you are given a card which IIRC puts you in place in line for the movie you watch before visiting the ship. 

The back of the card has some fact or character from Peal Harbor history. Turning mine over, it told of John Finn. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Finn

Ironc, since I met Mr. Finn as a child, when my dad would visit him. I still have a utility belt he gave me. 

As it turned out, I did not have time to visit the Arizona. I did appreciate seeing its memorial in the distance and nearby, the USS Missiouri.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In 2009 I was in Oahu HI for several days and attepted to visit the USS Arizona memorial. When you show up you are given a card which IIRC puts you in place in line for the movie you watch before visiting the ship. </p>
<p>The back of the card has some fact or character from Peal Harbor history. Turning mine over, it told of John Finn. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Finn" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_William_Finn</a></p>
<p>Ironc, since I met Mr. Finn as a child, when my dad would visit him. I still have a utility belt he gave me. </p>
<p>As it turned out, I did not have time to visit the Arizona. I did appreciate seeing its memorial in the distance and nearby, the USS Missiouri.</p>
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		By: Ray		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711711</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 17:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting essay on Pearl Harbor here. WWII, like WWI, was going to be over in a few months.
http://www.burtfolsom.com/?p=2727]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting essay on Pearl Harbor here. WWII, like WWI, was going to be over in a few months.<br />
<a href="http://www.burtfolsom.com/?p=2727" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.burtfolsom.com/?p=2727</a></p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711579</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 14:17:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Eric is right about myths. If a person hasn&#039;t done their own reasoning, experimentation, research, or access to personal experience, they have a hard time figuring out the truth. It becomes ridiculously easy to trust in the experts, society, and authority to tell us the metaphysics, the reality of the world.

But that state of being is no different from brainwashed zombies kept on a farm for food.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric is right about myths. If a person hasn&#8217;t done their own reasoning, experimentation, research, or access to personal experience, they have a hard time figuring out the truth. It becomes ridiculously easy to trust in the experts, society, and authority to tell us the metaphysics, the reality of the world.</p>
<p>But that state of being is no different from brainwashed zombies kept on a farm for food.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711274</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 03:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NCS...

Another amazing bio was penned by Jocko Clark:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_J._Clark

He was THE fighting admiral of WWII.

Ultimately promoted to being the top admiral of the Korean War.

&quot;In 1944 he was promoted to Rear Admiral and given command of Task Group 58.1 and served under the commands of Admiral Mitscher of the Fast Carrier Task Force, and Admiral Spruance, commander, Fifth Fleet.&quot;

58.1 was the heart of the carrier force and hold records that stand to this day -- really impossible to beat.

http://www.amazon.com/Carrier-Admiral-Joseph-James-Clark/dp/B0006BR3HQ

Jocko goes into all kinds of details that are simply fascinating.

BTW 38.1 was in Ulithi Lagoon when Halsey was fighting the IJN -- Leyte Gulf. When the alarm was sounded, 38.1 flew out of the lagoon to engage the IJN... too late. The clash was over. If Jocko had been there, for the battle, it would&#039;ve been far more crushing than it was. 38.1 was being given a break -- after eighteen months of continuous combat duty. (!)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NCS&#8230;</p>
<p>Another amazing bio was penned by Jocko Clark:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_J._Clark" rel="nofollow ugc">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_J._Clark</a></p>
<p>He was THE fighting admiral of WWII.</p>
<p>Ultimately promoted to being the top admiral of the Korean War.</p>
<p>&#8220;In 1944 he was promoted to Rear Admiral and given command of Task Group 58.1 and served under the commands of Admiral Mitscher of the Fast Carrier Task Force, and Admiral Spruance, commander, Fifth Fleet.&#8221;</p>
<p>58.1 was the heart of the carrier force and hold records that stand to this day &#8212; really impossible to beat.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Carrier-Admiral-Joseph-James-Clark/dp/B0006BR3HQ" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.com/Carrier-Admiral-Joseph-James-Clark/dp/B0006BR3HQ</a></p>
<p>Jocko goes into all kinds of details that are simply fascinating.</p>
<p>BTW 38.1 was in Ulithi Lagoon when Halsey was fighting the IJN &#8212; Leyte Gulf. When the alarm was sounded, 38.1 flew out of the lagoon to engage the IJN&#8230; too late. The clash was over. If Jocko had been there, for the battle, it would&#8217;ve been far more crushing than it was. 38.1 was being given a break &#8212; after eighteen months of continuous combat duty. (!)</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-711263</link>

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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2013 03:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NCS,

Popular history is mostly myth. Several of Bush&#039;s speeches would rank high in the historical register if they hadn&#039;t been obscured and buried by the dominant narrative makers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NCS,</p>
<p>Popular history is mostly myth. Several of Bush&#8217;s speeches would rank high in the historical register if they hadn&#8217;t been obscured and buried by the dominant narrative makers.</p>
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		By: NeoConScum		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-710933</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[blert... Thanks much for the suggestions for my upcoming year. I&#039;m an old Pacific War kid who&#039;s Dad was with the 20th Air Force, first in the CBI and then Tinian(West Field)until the end. You will, I suspect, enjoy the Group Motto of Pop&#039;s 462nd Hellbirds: WITH MALICE TOWARD SOME.
I&#039;d add to your list,&quot;And I Was There&quot;, by Rear Admiral Ed Layton and the greatest of all Pacific War combat memoirs,&quot;With the Old Breed: At Pelelieu and Okinawa&quot;, by E.B.Sledge. Haven&#039;t spent much time there in recent years, so your recommends will put a little fire under my seat.


Eric..Your quote of that great, stalwart patriot and wartime leader brought mist to my eyes. Between the Obama deliberate vaporizing of recent history and the vapidity of the LIVs and the &#039;Milliniels&#039; and the full arrival of Einstein&#039;s prediction of a &quot;generation of idiots&quot; on their i-Thingies  &#038; X-Boxes 24/7, my optimism has fled. Few Americans, 11-years after Pearl Harbor, had forgotten it and its lessons. But, look around us and see how little the vivid memory of 3,000 dead (mostly) American innocents on 9/11 has been made ancient.  Mrs.Clinton &#038; John Boy Kerry at State and the disgusting dwarf at Defense, coupled with the hard lefties in the White House... My God, can anyone imagine George W. Bush handing nuclear at&#039;taboys to the Mullahs of Iran and b&#039;yotch slapping Bibi this way??? NOT hardly. I have never feared for my country as I do in The Boy King&#039;s 2nd term.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blert&#8230; Thanks much for the suggestions for my upcoming year. I&#8217;m an old Pacific War kid who&#8217;s Dad was with the 20th Air Force, first in the CBI and then Tinian(West Field)until the end. You will, I suspect, enjoy the Group Motto of Pop&#8217;s 462nd Hellbirds: WITH MALICE TOWARD SOME.<br />
I&#8217;d add to your list,&#8221;And I Was There&#8221;, by Rear Admiral Ed Layton and the greatest of all Pacific War combat memoirs,&#8221;With the Old Breed: At Pelelieu and Okinawa&#8221;, by E.B.Sledge. Haven&#8217;t spent much time there in recent years, so your recommends will put a little fire under my seat.</p>
<p>Eric..Your quote of that great, stalwart patriot and wartime leader brought mist to my eyes. Between the Obama deliberate vaporizing of recent history and the vapidity of the LIVs and the &#8216;Milliniels&#8217; and the full arrival of Einstein&#8217;s prediction of a &#8220;generation of idiots&#8221; on their i-Thingies  &amp; X-Boxes 24/7, my optimism has fled. Few Americans, 11-years after Pearl Harbor, had forgotten it and its lessons. But, look around us and see how little the vivid memory of 3,000 dead (mostly) American innocents on 9/11 has been made ancient.  Mrs.Clinton &amp; John Boy Kerry at State and the disgusting dwarf at Defense, coupled with the hard lefties in the White House&#8230; My God, can anyone imagine George W. Bush handing nuclear at&#8217;taboys to the Mullahs of Iran and b&#8217;yotch slapping Bibi this way??? NOT hardly. I have never feared for my country as I do in The Boy King&#8217;s 2nd term.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-710924</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;As is anybody who supported it.&lt;/b&gt;

Exactly so. Those who have not hardened their resolve, will do nothing when the moment of truth comes. They cannot pull the trigger on their neighbors or their family, their buddies in the police and state forces. But it will be precisely those people who will obey orders to launch an offensive at the front.

Those who have unclear motivations and have not figured out their ROE justifications already, will hesitate and freeze when the moment to pull the trigger appears.

There will be no authority, no government, no leader to tell individual American patriots to kill or shoot. It&#039;ll all be up to the individual. And individually, most people will refuse to pull the trigger. Which means they&#039;ll just sit down, shut up, and be carted away. Or sit down and watch as their neighbors are shuffled along into a truck and gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>As is anybody who supported it.</b></p>
<p>Exactly so. Those who have not hardened their resolve, will do nothing when the moment of truth comes. They cannot pull the trigger on their neighbors or their family, their buddies in the police and state forces. But it will be precisely those people who will obey orders to launch an offensive at the front.</p>
<p>Those who have unclear motivations and have not figured out their ROE justifications already, will hesitate and freeze when the moment to pull the trigger appears.</p>
<p>There will be no authority, no government, no leader to tell individual American patriots to kill or shoot. It&#8217;ll all be up to the individual. And individually, most people will refuse to pull the trigger. Which means they&#8217;ll just sit down, shut up, and be carted away. Or sit down and watch as their neighbors are shuffled along into a truck and gone.</p>
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		By: Eric		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/07/72nd-anniversary-of-pearl-harbor/#comment-710785</link>

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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Dec 2013 13:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo: &quot;in case we need reminding of what American resolve used to sound like&quot;

President Bush, 20SEP01:

&quot;Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. . . . But the only way to defeat terrorism as a threat to our way of life is to stop it, eliminate it, and destroy it where it grows. . . . This is not, however, just America&#039;s fight. And what is at stake is not just America&#039;s freedom. This is the world&#039;s fight. This is civilization&#039;s fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom. . . . As long as the United States of America is determined and strong, this will not be an age of terror; this will be an age of liberty, here and across the world.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo: &#8220;in case we need reminding of what American resolve used to sound like&#8221;</p>
<p>President Bush, 20SEP01:</p>
<p>&#8220;Americans should not expect one battle, but a lengthy campaign, unlike any other we have ever seen. . . . But the only way to defeat terrorism as a threat to our way of life is to stop it, eliminate it, and destroy it where it grows. . . . This is not, however, just America&#8217;s fight. And what is at stake is not just America&#8217;s freedom. This is the world&#8217;s fight. This is civilization&#8217;s fight. This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom. . . . As long as the United States of America is determined and strong, this will not be an age of terror; this will be an age of liberty, here and across the world.&#8221;</p>
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