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		By: IGotBupkis, "'Faeces Evenio', Mr. Holder?"		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-708095</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[IGotBupkis, "'Faeces Evenio', Mr. Holder?"]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 19:53:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[}}} &lt;i&gt;the government and insurers can reconcile the payments made with the plan data to “true up” payments, he said.&lt;/i&gt;


Ahhhh, yeah, THAT&#039;s not  a recipe for a giant, government sized cluster f**k.

I&#039;m sure there will be hundreds of little IOUs being passed around in &quot;This Is How To Not Run Government&quot; class. Unfortunately, a class not usually offered in Poly Sci programs around the nation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>}}} <i>the government and insurers can reconcile the payments made with the plan data to “true up” payments, he said.</i></p>
<p>Ahhhh, yeah, THAT&#8217;s not  a recipe for a giant, government sized cluster f**k.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there will be hundreds of little IOUs being passed around in &#8220;This Is How To Not Run Government&#8221; class. Unfortunately, a class not usually offered in Poly Sci programs around the nation.</p>
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		By: Bill West		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-708024</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 18:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo,

You said &quot;After all,Obamacare is probably the very first business most of them have ever run.&quot;

Peggy Noonan explores this idea in her latest blog post: 

&quot;From what I have seen the administration is full of young people who’ve seen the movie but not read the book. They act bright, they know the reference, they’re credentialed. But they’ve only seen the movie about, say, the Cuban missile crisis, and then they get into a foreign-policy question and they’re seeing movies in their heads. They haven’t read the histories, the texts, which carry more information, more texture, data and subtlety, and different points of view.&quot;

It&#039;s a sobering assessment of the President&#039;s leadership ability.  Worth the read:

http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/12/03/low-information-leadership/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo,</p>
<p>You said &#8220;After all,Obamacare is probably the very first business most of them have ever run.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peggy Noonan explores this idea in her latest blog post: </p>
<p>&#8220;From what I have seen the administration is full of young people who’ve seen the movie but not read the book. They act bright, they know the reference, they’re credentialed. But they’ve only seen the movie about, say, the Cuban missile crisis, and then they get into a foreign-policy question and they’re seeing movies in their heads. They haven’t read the histories, the texts, which carry more information, more texture, data and subtlety, and different points of view.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sobering assessment of the President&#8217;s leadership ability.  Worth the read:</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/12/03/low-information-leadership/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/2013/12/03/low-information-leadership/</a></p>
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		By: Charles		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-708013</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;Health plans will &lt;b&gt;estimate&lt;/b&gt; how much they are owed, and submit that &lt;b&gt;estimate&lt;/b&gt; to the government.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Never trust estimates - never.

Man this whole thing is so f&#038;cked!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Health plans will <b>estimate</b> how much they are owed, and submit that <b>estimate</b> to the government.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Never trust estimates &#8211; never.</p>
<p>Man this whole thing is so f&amp;cked!</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-708007</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 17:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Not one step back!&quot; said der Fuhrer.

How&#039;d that work out?

Healthcare.gov is the Stalingrad of disinformation technologies.

It&#039;s already been enveloped by reality.

Can the Front be re-scaffolded?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Not one step back!&#8221; said der Fuhrer.</p>
<p>How&#8217;d that work out?</p>
<p>Healthcare.gov is the Stalingrad of disinformation technologies.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s already been enveloped by reality.</p>
<p>Can the Front be re-scaffolded?</p>
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		By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-707984</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J. formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What is happening here is reminiscent of Chile, Argentina, or Zimbabwe. Obama is Allende, or Peron, or Mugabe. The details are different but the pattern is similar.  There is a thirst among a large percentage of humans for &quot;fairness.&quot; Egalitarianism sounds so correct and reasonable  to them. But, of course, it can&#039;t be achieved through simple, &quot;fair&quot; processes. It requires force to overcome the human instinct for achievement or as the egalitarians call it, &quot;greed.&quot;  No amount of historical evidence of the failures of egalitarianism can change their minds. Only complete, abject failure will do it. But recovery requires a man (such as Pinochet in Chile) who  can point the way out of the failure and can sway enough minds to follow the path of free markets, private property, and rule of law. If such a man doesn&#039;t appear, you continue on the path of Argentina or Zimbabwe.

That is why most of us are dejected. We know what is happening but feel powerless to change things. We have eleven months to work to help elect people who believe in our principles. Let us all dedicate ourselves to doing whatever we can, no matter how small, to make that happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is happening here is reminiscent of Chile, Argentina, or Zimbabwe. Obama is Allende, or Peron, or Mugabe. The details are different but the pattern is similar.  There is a thirst among a large percentage of humans for &#8220;fairness.&#8221; Egalitarianism sounds so correct and reasonable  to them. But, of course, it can&#8217;t be achieved through simple, &#8220;fair&#8221; processes. It requires force to overcome the human instinct for achievement or as the egalitarians call it, &#8220;greed.&#8221;  No amount of historical evidence of the failures of egalitarianism can change their minds. Only complete, abject failure will do it. But recovery requires a man (such as Pinochet in Chile) who  can point the way out of the failure and can sway enough minds to follow the path of free markets, private property, and rule of law. If such a man doesn&#8217;t appear, you continue on the path of Argentina or Zimbabwe.</p>
<p>That is why most of us are dejected. We know what is happening but feel powerless to change things. We have eleven months to work to help elect people who believe in our principles. Let us all dedicate ourselves to doing whatever we can, no matter how small, to make that happen.</p>
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		By: boulderrick		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-707983</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;“We’re not repealing it as long as I’m president,” said Obama&lt;/i&gt;

Hopefully this isn&#039;t one of those rare promises he keeps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>“We’re not repealing it as long as I’m president,” said Obama</i></p>
<p>Hopefully this isn&#8217;t one of those rare promises he keeps.</p>
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		By: Harold		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-707964</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 16:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[NeoNeocon: &quot;Can an entire administration be impeached for gross negligence? &quot;

Well sure it could. It would be tough work, probably work Americans don&#039;t want to do, so we&#039;d have to have illegal aliens do it. 

But the House and Senate (post 2014 mid terms) could set up an assembly line and run through a thousand people, impeaching and removing every single one of them. 

Of course we&#039;d have to provide them with a safety net, wouldn&#039;t want them to suffer like the rest of us who get fired from jobs. Maybe have special &quot;navigators&quot; help them get Obamacare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NeoNeocon: &#8220;Can an entire administration be impeached for gross negligence? &#8221;</p>
<p>Well sure it could. It would be tough work, probably work Americans don&#8217;t want to do, so we&#8217;d have to have illegal aliens do it. </p>
<p>But the House and Senate (post 2014 mid terms) could set up an assembly line and run through a thousand people, impeaching and removing every single one of them. </p>
<p>Of course we&#8217;d have to provide them with a safety net, wouldn&#8217;t want them to suffer like the rest of us who get fired from jobs. Maybe have special &#8220;navigators&#8221; help them get Obamacare.</p>
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		By: physicsguy		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-707893</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 13:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;For example, please read this paper by Jonathan Turley, an Obama supporter, to the effect that Obama has exceeded his constitutional authority in a dangerous way. Turley testified on Tuesday in the House hearings on the subject.&quot;

And on the Kelley File last night, she featured not only Turley, but others who testified at the hearing.  Amazing how the words &quot;tyranny&quot;, and &quot;revolution&quot; came up along with quotes from the Federalist Papers.  Of course there&#039;s nothing on this that I could see in the MSM this morning or even on the conservative sites.... sigh.

BTW, Megyn Kelley is kicking BOR&#039;s butt.  I now skip over the 8pm slot and tune into Fox at 9 for her show.  She has principles and passion, he is just out to sell his books.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For example, please read this paper by Jonathan Turley, an Obama supporter, to the effect that Obama has exceeded his constitutional authority in a dangerous way. Turley testified on Tuesday in the House hearings on the subject.&#8221;</p>
<p>And on the Kelley File last night, she featured not only Turley, but others who testified at the hearing.  Amazing how the words &#8220;tyranny&#8221;, and &#8220;revolution&#8221; came up along with quotes from the Federalist Papers.  Of course there&#8217;s nothing on this that I could see in the MSM this morning or even on the conservative sites&#8230;. sigh.</p>
<p>BTW, Megyn Kelley is kicking BOR&#8217;s butt.  I now skip over the 8pm slot and tune into Fox at 9 for her show.  She has principles and passion, he is just out to sell his books.</p>
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		By: kaba		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-707816</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kaba]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 11:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was struck by the rather subdued crowd response to Obama&#039;s proclamation about refusing repeal. Promising to confront the evil Republicans would typically be red meat to the fellow travelers and solicit an almost orgasmic response. 

Instead we witnessed limited applause and some perhaps orchestrated cheering from offstage.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was struck by the rather subdued crowd response to Obama&#8217;s proclamation about refusing repeal. Promising to confront the evil Republicans would typically be red meat to the fellow travelers and solicit an almost orgasmic response. </p>
<p>Instead we witnessed limited applause and some perhaps orchestrated cheering from offstage.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/12/03/well-what-do-you-expect/#comment-707725</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2013 07:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[push.me.one.more.time, 9:41 pm -- &quot;How about we #### in Obama’s mouth? How’s that for your ####ing option, Obama?  Martin Bashir said it was appropriate to #### in Sarah Palin’s mouth merely because she equated slavery with PUBLIC DEBT.&quot;

Hey push, I share your anger and disgust, believe me.  And what Bashir infamously said was utterly, *utterly* classless.  But we need not follow suit.  M J R says, expressing the same sentiments in PG-rated language takes greater effort, but when done imaginatively, can be that much more pungent, in part because it does not rely on the &quot;bad&quot; words.  I personally look to Mark Steyn (and a few others) for inspiration in this regard.

Here&#039;s an example:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/364093/thus-spake-obama-mark-steyn

I love his line, &quot;Gee, thanks for sharing, genius,&quot; referring to our disaster-in-chief, early in the fifth paragraph down.  Priceless -- and easily PG-rated.  The context:

&quot;The most telling line, the one that encapsulates the gulf between the boundless fantasies of the faculty-lounge utopian and the messiness of reality, was this: &#039;What we’re also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy.&#039; Gee, thanks for sharing, genius. Maybe you should have thought of that before you governmentalized one-sixth of the economy.&quot;

Anyway, push, please take this response as a friendly one.  As I wrote, I share your anger and disgust.  But as I also wrote, we need not follow suit and forfeit our dignity by becoming Bashirian.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>push.me.one.more.time, 9:41 pm &#8212; &#8220;How about we #### in Obama’s mouth? How’s that for your ####ing option, Obama?  Martin Bashir said it was appropriate to #### in Sarah Palin’s mouth merely because she equated slavery with PUBLIC DEBT.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey push, I share your anger and disgust, believe me.  And what Bashir infamously said was utterly, *utterly* classless.  But we need not follow suit.  M J R says, expressing the same sentiments in PG-rated language takes greater effort, but when done imaginatively, can be that much more pungent, in part because it does not rely on the &#8220;bad&#8221; words.  I personally look to Mark Steyn (and a few others) for inspiration in this regard.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an example:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/article/364093/thus-spake-obama-mark-steyn" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nationalreview.com/article/364093/thus-spake-obama-mark-steyn</a></p>
<p>I love his line, &#8220;Gee, thanks for sharing, genius,&#8221; referring to our disaster-in-chief, early in the fifth paragraph down.  Priceless &#8212; and easily PG-rated.  The context:</p>
<p>&#8220;The most telling line, the one that encapsulates the gulf between the boundless fantasies of the faculty-lounge utopian and the messiness of reality, was this: &#8216;What we’re also discovering is that insurance is complicated to buy.&#8217; Gee, thanks for sharing, genius. Maybe you should have thought of that before you governmentalized one-sixth of the economy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway, push, please take this response as a friendly one.  As I wrote, I share your anger and disgust.  But as I also wrote, we need not follow suit and forfeit our dignity by becoming Bashirian.</p>
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