In what universe would the Japanese champion an American shogun, MacArthur, after their country was nuked and rendered into a burned down defeated nation faced with starvation? Do you not think they had veterans that were bitter about this and wanted revenge?

If the Japanese rebelled and started killing, assassinating, and attacking Americans like MacArthur, what kind of “Reconstruction” do you think would have happened on the mainland?

The fact that “Democrats” were re-elected after some time, using the violence of the KKK insurgency and terrorism to get back into power, means that not everyone was “disenfranchised”. It was a temporary method, when looking at tomorrow. The Japanese were forced to disarm, suppress martial arts and destroy heritage swords of blood families, write a Constitution, the Emperor and his family were willing to accept stepping down and/or be executed, but the South loved voting rights so much they participated in a Glorious War for Freedom and then lost and now think it is an individual’s duty to use the same kind of violence to get back even more power?

That makes absolutely no sense. General Lee didn’t fight for slavery. Nathan Bedford Forrest didn’t order the KKK he started to burn, lynch, attack, or assassinate Republicans or Northern military or civilian business leaders. NBF told people that “we had lost”, that their path in life would be to pursue prosperity by working with Northerners. The general majority of the South fought because they were ordered to by their Authorities, the Democrat party. Which was allied with Northern Democrats, at least. That is the only explanation I can accept.

Unless there was an authority telling Southerners to fight Reconstruction and destroy it so that people can take over the place in a few years, the violence would not have started, the famines would have stopped, and people working together would have rebuilt. But they didn’t. The Collapse was engineered and then covered up with a bunch of excuses. If the Emperor of Japan gave the order, the Japanese would have fought to the last man, woman, and child. So who Gave the Order to the South to continue fighting the North, causing famine and massive devastation on a national level AFTER the Civil War?

Who was it, Beverly? Do you know? Were you alive during those times? Did you ask anyone that was alive during those times? Or are you, just like me, getting your information from “other people” who may or may not have their own agendas.

The Northern Armies could have been used to reconstruct, but reconstruction would have given the people hope and decreased violence and famine. Instead they spent the majority of the time fighting the KKK, insurgents, and crime. While Democrat Johnson vetoed any Reconstruction bill for years, allowing the famine to go on. As Planned.

The Leftist bastards always try to upstage all the decent people, and too often succeed: but how many of them are there, really? even in New York City?

What did dishearten me about NY was that the city, after a surge of unaccustomed patriotism, slunk back to its despicable Liberal Asshat ways within a couple of months. I did notice, though, that Sheethead Sharpton was rebuked, by the black community! when he said the statue of the three firemen should be one black, one hispanic, and one white guy: even though the men were all white.

Alas, the bugger did seem to be able to prevent ANY statue from being made; also, the FREEDOM Tower was renamed the “One World” Trade Center by the globalist scum….

Yeah, not too encouraging. But still: this is New York, a city most of the rest of the country regards as a pinko freakshow anyway. They’re mostly right.

I’m a NYer who was in NYC on 9/11. I witnessed 1st hand in the days immediately following 9/11 how the radical Left eagerly embraced the attack as an opportunity to resurrect their ‘Revolution’.

And how Democrats – fellow New Yorkers who were in the city on 9/11 – willfully resculpted the event in their minds to fit into their global Narrative. It was fascinating and distressing to watch their defense mechanism activate to protect their basic worldview.

In the 1860 Census, they reported that the yeoman farmer (owns his own farm) in the South had an annual cash income of $50. Fifty dollars. Bartering, growing their own food, etc., allowed them to survive.

In that same year, these were the prices for various types of slaves: for an old woman, $200 (for all these, remember they had to supply room, board, and clothing as well.) For a strong young man to work in the fields, $800. For a skilled slave who knew blacksmithing, carpentry, etc., $1,200. These latter men were often allowed to work off the plantation and earn their own money: they’d split it with their owners and keep some of it. That was one of the main ways the slaves were able to buy their emancipation and that of their families.

And at the war’s outbreak, some 9,000 black men in the South had slaves of their own. Probably most had bought kinfolk, but they also bought others — this was the system, and in Africa slavery was a well-known custom too, so they probably regarded it as just working their way up in the world.

Life is complicated, you know?

This is also the reason that black Southerners, to a man, were Republicans, until the 1960s. I love to blow lefties’ minds by telling them Martin Luther King was a Republican. In fact, all the early black civil rights leaders in the South were, pretty much. Until LBJ flipped them. [Though they did vote for FDR.]

Obamacare is hitting people personally, where they live. It’ll have a major effect on their lives, and they’ll have no say in it. It’s something that will be inflicted on them — a really awful feeling. So, yes, I think it will wake a lot of people up.

Since I grew up in the heartland, I’d peg the Leftwing nutjob faction (hardcore “progs”) at 20%, not 30%. I’ve seen others make that estimate, too.

Ymarsakar — War Between the States is Very complicated. Briefly: only 1% – 2% of all white Southerners owned slaves (US Census figures). So 98% of Southerners really WERE fighting for independence from the North, which had been kicking them around for many years. They had more money and more people, and were on an industrial vs. agricultural footing.

So yes, the slaveowners did light the fuse, but the bomb was the desire for independence.

Reconstruction was inflicted on the defeated and prostrate South by the hated Republicans, who (after Lincoln’s assassination) gave full rein to vengeance. The South was under military rule for several years. Famine was widespread. Black men were given the vote, but all white men who had either fought for the Confederacy or “given aid and comfort” to it were stripped of the right to vote. There were no civil courts, only Yankee-ruled military tribunals. All this after so many of the young men had died or been maimed by the hated Yankees: 1/4 of the state budget of Alabama after the war, e.g., was devoted to buying artificial limbs.

Reconstruction was dubbed “Re-destruction” by the Southerners. My great-great grandparents, a doctor and his wife in Georgia, died young from its aftereffects (famine = illness and death).

How can you imagine that my ancestors would look at someone like Sherman or Sheridan, who conducted the first real scorched-earth campaigns and inflicted such dreadful suffering, and embrace them? in what universe would that make sense?

Also, the Northerners screwed up badly by forcing the South to instantly accept the rule by their former slaves in the state legislatures, something no Northern state would accept in that day, by the way! and the disenfranchisement of all their white male citizenry. Impotent at that point to vent their anger at the white Northerners who’d put them in this humiliating position, they (I regret to say) vented it on the blacks instead. They went several bridges too far, too fast, and unfortunately the black Southerners reaped the bitter harvest.

I’m not saying it would have been easy to integrate former slaves, kept ignorant in most cases by their owners, into the society! but that was the worst way to do it, and guaranteed to foment rebellion.

Now, should I trust that O-care will be stable for long enough to make it worth actually acting on this? That’s a tough call right now.

Yes, there are tons of weird situations like that.

I’ve written about some of them before. Take a look at this, for example. And this: