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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/14/on-no-less-a-topic-than-the-history-and-future-of-obamacare/#comment-696318</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Getting rid of Obama wouldn&#039;t solve anything. The Left&#039;s power remains unbroken. Does anyone think the LEft doesn&#039;t have dictators 1000 times worse waiting to replace Obama?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Getting rid of Obama wouldn&#8217;t solve anything. The Left&#8217;s power remains unbroken. Does anyone think the LEft doesn&#8217;t have dictators 1000 times worse waiting to replace Obama?</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Neo: 

&quot;I was just thinking about that Louis XIV quote yesterday. Only with Obama it’s more like “the law, c’est moi.”&quot;

Yes, but in the postmodern state the law is the state - whatever the &quot;good&quot; postmodernist can coerce becomes reality.

There is no truth for a person like Obama but what power he has. There are no other people at all in Obama&#039;s Lawless Lex, c&#039;est moi. There is Obama and then there are the worker bees who serve him in his hive.

We need a revolution or a restoration and maybe both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neo: </p>
<p>&#8220;I was just thinking about that Louis XIV quote yesterday. Only with Obama it’s more like “the law, c’est moi.”&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, but in the postmodern state the law is the state &#8211; whatever the &#8220;good&#8221; postmodernist can coerce becomes reality.</p>
<p>There is no truth for a person like Obama but what power he has. There are no other people at all in Obama&#8217;s Lawless Lex, c&#8217;est moi. There is Obama and then there are the worker bees who serve him in his hive.</p>
<p>We need a revolution or a restoration and maybe both.</p>
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		By: DNW		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DNW]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 18:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Democrats wanted universal coverage and a major overhaul of both the insurance market and the American social contract&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s really the only long term important point. The Democrat, now fascist, party wishes to reorder the &quot;social contract.&quot;

But it&#039;s not so bad say some like Mitsu, because, well, &quot; after subsidies ...&quot;


I&#039;m afraid there is no reasoning with an organism that somehow believes that the fact that its mother whelped it in the same polity you live in constitutes a fact that entitles it to a piece of your flesh. But that is the social insurance predicate and the fascist mind for you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;Democrats wanted universal coverage and a major overhaul of both the insurance market and the American social contract&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s really the only long term important point. The Democrat, now fascist, party wishes to reorder the &#8220;social contract.&#8221;</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s not so bad say some like Mitsu, because, well, &#8221; after subsidies &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid there is no reasoning with an organism that somehow believes that the fact that its mother whelped it in the same polity you live in constitutes a fact that entitles it to a piece of your flesh. But that is the social insurance predicate and the fascist mind for you.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 17:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike:

I was just thinking about that Louis XIV quote yesterday.  Only with Obama it&#039;s more like &quot;the law, c&#039;est moi.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>I was just thinking about that Louis XIV quote yesterday.  Only with Obama it&#8217;s more like &#8220;the law, c&#8217;est moi.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The Leftist alliance and their Democrat founding member, have been in a war against AMericans for a long time now. People just didn&#039;t want to recognize it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Leftist alliance and their Democrat founding member, have been in a war against AMericans for a long time now. People just didn&#8217;t want to recognize it.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Obama behaves like an autocrat, a king. He is exactly like Louis XIV - L&#039;Etat c&#039;est moi.

He deserves more than impeachment. He deserves approximately what George III received, sine he is every bit as bad and probably worse than George III.

I think we need to stop thinking of the Democrat Party as and actually democratic party of the sort we are used to in our Republic.

It is the American Fascist Party. Obama is Mussolini.

Okay: Louis XIV, George III, Mussolini. He has characteristics of all of them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama behaves like an autocrat, a king. He is exactly like Louis XIV &#8211; L&#8217;Etat c&#8217;est moi.</p>
<p>He deserves more than impeachment. He deserves approximately what George III received, sine he is every bit as bad and probably worse than George III.</p>
<p>I think we need to stop thinking of the Democrat Party as and actually democratic party of the sort we are used to in our Republic.</p>
<p>It is the American Fascist Party. Obama is Mussolini.</p>
<p>Okay: Louis XIV, George III, Mussolini. He has characteristics of all of them.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 12:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If people wanted a service, they would pay for it. Hey, I want a car so I&#039;ll put a gun to your head and make you buy me one.

That&#039;s their version of &quot;people want it&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If people wanted a service, they would pay for it. Hey, I want a car so I&#8217;ll put a gun to your head and make you buy me one.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s their version of &#8220;people want it&#8221;.</p>
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		By: blert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 03:06:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The ultimate irony:

FDR aped Hoover&#039;s government philosophy -- while running AGAINST it, himself.

He instantly reversed course and became the Super-Hoover we all we don&#039;t recognize.

Hoover was the go-to man as far back as Woodrow Wilson!

It is HOOVER that created the faith in &#039;modern&#039; big government.

He was, in his glory, known far and wide as the &#039;Great Engineer.&#039; 

He made his own economic bones via the flotation-cell benefaction process -- in the mineral fields -- to include Australia. ( Think Broken-Hill )

This technology, in which Hoover was a major player, as a young engineer, became the foundation of his financial independence. It also triggered THE mining revolution of the last 120 years. It&#039;s why open pit mining and super-sized machines are everywhere supporting mankind.

Hoover thought that his engineering approach could solve other major issues. 

Consequently, he engineered his role into saving the Belgians  from starvation during WWI -- to great acclaim. This was followed by his efforts to record the tragic experiences of those affected by the war. These records began the Hoover Institute -- which took over US Army training space directly adjacent to Stanford University. (They were in the sticks at the time.)

Time and again, you find that Progressivism started within the REPUBLICAN party, and was launched by Northeasterners. Hoover was a Quaker, ditto for Nixon, a man so conservative he created wage-price controls, the EPA, and the end of the Gold Standard. This latter standard directly possible because of Hoover&#039;s efforts way back when with flotation-cells.

BTW, virtually ALL hard rock mining uses flotation-cells -- simply everywhere. That&#039;s how important the method is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The ultimate irony:</p>
<p>FDR aped Hoover&#8217;s government philosophy &#8212; while running AGAINST it, himself.</p>
<p>He instantly reversed course and became the Super-Hoover we all we don&#8217;t recognize.</p>
<p>Hoover was the go-to man as far back as Woodrow Wilson!</p>
<p>It is HOOVER that created the faith in &#8216;modern&#8217; big government.</p>
<p>He was, in his glory, known far and wide as the &#8216;Great Engineer.&#8217; </p>
<p>He made his own economic bones via the flotation-cell benefaction process &#8212; in the mineral fields &#8212; to include Australia. ( Think Broken-Hill )</p>
<p>This technology, in which Hoover was a major player, as a young engineer, became the foundation of his financial independence. It also triggered THE mining revolution of the last 120 years. It&#8217;s why open pit mining and super-sized machines are everywhere supporting mankind.</p>
<p>Hoover thought that his engineering approach could solve other major issues. </p>
<p>Consequently, he engineered his role into saving the Belgians  from starvation during WWI &#8212; to great acclaim. This was followed by his efforts to record the tragic experiences of those affected by the war. These records began the Hoover Institute &#8212; which took over US Army training space directly adjacent to Stanford University. (They were in the sticks at the time.)</p>
<p>Time and again, you find that Progressivism started within the REPUBLICAN party, and was launched by Northeasterners. Hoover was a Quaker, ditto for Nixon, a man so conservative he created wage-price controls, the EPA, and the end of the Gold Standard. This latter standard directly possible because of Hoover&#8217;s efforts way back when with flotation-cells.</p>
<p>BTW, virtually ALL hard rock mining uses flotation-cells &#8212; simply everywhere. That&#8217;s how important the method is.</p>
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		By: Don		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 02:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;But it’s just not true that “no one wanted” it! As you probably know, ACA supporters often talk about how many of the act’s measures are popular, it’s just “Obamacare” that’s pretty unpopular. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, there were popular parts of it. That doesn&#039;t make it popular. I don&#039;t think a single person reallly wanted the crap sandwitch that passed the senate, even if some particular parts were popular. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;“Completely marginalized” is arguable, but I agree generally. FDR did win the presidency with huge majorities, but the New Deal famously faced strong opposition from the Supreme Court for years, until the “court-packing” scandal.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dems achieved 75% majorities in Congress. The courts are besides the point, since they represented older, conservative viewpoints that by then were out of fashion.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>But it’s just not true that “no one wanted” it! As you probably know, ACA supporters often talk about how many of the act’s measures are popular, it’s just “Obamacare” that’s pretty unpopular. </p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, there were popular parts of it. That doesn&#8217;t make it popular. I don&#8217;t think a single person reallly wanted the crap sandwitch that passed the senate, even if some particular parts were popular. </p>
<blockquote><p>“Completely marginalized” is arguable, but I agree generally. FDR did win the presidency with huge majorities, but the New Deal famously faced strong opposition from the Supreme Court for years, until the “court-packing” scandal.</p></blockquote>
<p>Dems achieved 75% majorities in Congress. The courts are besides the point, since they represented older, conservative viewpoints that by then were out of fashion.</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mitsu is a spambot.  There is no point in responding to it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mitsu is a spambot.  There is no point in responding to it.</p>
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