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		By: Obamacare and employment-based health insurance &#124; SCWilliam Insurance		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-783357</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Obamacare and employment-based health insurance &#124; SCWilliam Insurance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2014 19:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] is actually “new.” I seem to recall reading and writing about something very much like it quite some time ago (see also [&#8230;]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] is actually “new.” I seem to recall reading and writing about something very much like it quite some time ago (see also [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-690006</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt_SE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 18:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Now what do we do?

Show that it doesn&#039;t work, and will make voters&#039; lives worse. At this point, that shouldn&#039;t be hard as the number of losers under Obamacare keep multiplying, while the winners are conspicuously absent.
Also, keep hitting the &quot;Obama lied&quot; meme (which is absolutely true), as it undermines his credibility even with his own base.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now what do we do?</p>
<p>Show that it doesn&#8217;t work, and will make voters&#8217; lives worse. At this point, that shouldn&#8217;t be hard as the number of losers under Obamacare keep multiplying, while the winners are conspicuously absent.<br />
Also, keep hitting the &#8220;Obama lied&#8221; meme (which is absolutely true), as it undermines his credibility even with his own base.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689861</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 16:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The proper name for what is happening is fascism. That is correct.

Now we have the same dilemma the Italians and the Germans had.

I never dreamed it could happen in America. But it has. Now what do we do?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The proper name for what is happening is fascism. That is correct.</p>
<p>Now we have the same dilemma the Italians and the Germans had.</p>
<p>I never dreamed it could happen in America. But it has. Now what do we do?</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689807</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 14:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you cannot reach the puppet masters because all of the tools stand in your way... then get rid of the tools first.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you cannot reach the puppet masters because all of the tools stand in your way&#8230; then get rid of the tools first.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689806</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ymarsakar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 14:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Isn&#039;t it ironic that many people believed Bush was the starter of American fascism? Including those &quot;Libertarian&quot; fools who were against the Iraq war.

So much of this country is no more than the zombie cannonfodder of the LA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it ironic that many people believed Bush was the starter of American fascism? Including those &#8220;Libertarian&#8221; fools who were against the Iraq war.</p>
<p>So much of this country is no more than the zombie cannonfodder of the LA.</p>
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		By: Aarradin		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689428</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aarradin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 05:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;excess profit&quot;

Not a term an American would use.  

Pure Marxism.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;excess profit&#8221;</p>
<p>Not a term an American would use.  </p>
<p>Pure Marxism.</p>
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		By: M J R		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689418</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M J R]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia, 11:02 pm -- &#039;Zackly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob From Virginia, 11:02 pm &#8212; &#8216;Zackly.</p>
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		By: Bob From Virginia		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689399</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob From Virginia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 04:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Funny thing Obama can not only survive but prosper because of the ACA disaster.  All he has to do is announce that the problems with the program mandate a year long delay and the ninnies who voted for the bum will laud his humility and his insightful managerial abilities.  His poll numbers will certainly rebound, not that they have significantly fallen among likely voters (see Rasmussen).  This will also give him a year to spin any failures as somebodies else&#039;s. 
In short, logic won&#039;t take out a person&#039;s head what logic did not put there.  Obama was elected because people BELIEVED in him.  Belief does require rationality. 
The question is whether his pathological vanity will allow this level contriteness?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing Obama can not only survive but prosper because of the ACA disaster.  All he has to do is announce that the problems with the program mandate a year long delay and the ninnies who voted for the bum will laud his humility and his insightful managerial abilities.  His poll numbers will certainly rebound, not that they have significantly fallen among likely voters (see Rasmussen).  This will also give him a year to spin any failures as somebodies else&#8217;s.<br />
In short, logic won&#8217;t take out a person&#8217;s head what logic did not put there.  Obama was elected because people BELIEVED in him.  Belief does require rationality.<br />
The question is whether his pathological vanity will allow this level contriteness?</p>
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		By: Richard Saunders		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689392</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Saunders]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The only thing I need to know about Obamacare is that Congress exempted itself and the White House.&quot;

We have to repeat that over and over. Every time one of my lefty friends talks about O-care, I say that.  Shuts them right up.  Even low information voters and tranzis are beginning to understand.  Keep on message!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only thing I need to know about Obamacare is that Congress exempted itself and the White House.&#8221;</p>
<p>We have to repeat that over and over. Every time one of my lefty friends talks about O-care, I say that.  Shuts them right up.  Even low information voters and tranzis are beginning to understand.  Keep on message!</p>
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		By: J.J. formerly Jimmy J.		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/06/insurance-companies-need-insurance-too/#comment-689391</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.J. formerly Jimmy J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2013 03:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good link, parker.  

Deninger doesn&#039;t  tell why the costs have gone up so much and why there is no transparency in costs. It&#039;s cost shifting. All brought about by the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) - an Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act ... That was when  medical costs began to go up and up and up.  No one will talk about it though, because, as Deninger points out, people are making big money and none of  the usual suspects want the gravy train to  end. 

It&#039;s possible that the medical/pharma/health insurance complex may suffer if people decide, as Deninger indicates he will, to go Galt on Obamacare.  Could very well lead to a death spiral as providers (medical and insurance) try to find people who will buy their products. Under EMTALA the ERs cannot turn you away. It may become the preferred medical provider for many  millions of formerly  insured but now uninsured citizens who decide to  forgo Obamacare.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good link, parker.  </p>
<p>Deninger doesn&#8217;t  tell why the costs have gone up so much and why there is no transparency in costs. It&#8217;s cost shifting. All brought about by the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA) &#8211; an Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act &#8230; That was when  medical costs began to go up and up and up.  No one will talk about it though, because, as Deninger points out, people are making big money and none of  the usual suspects want the gravy train to  end. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that the medical/pharma/health insurance complex may suffer if people decide, as Deninger indicates he will, to go Galt on Obamacare.  Could very well lead to a death spiral as providers (medical and insurance) try to find people who will buy their products. Under EMTALA the ERs cannot turn you away. It may become the preferred medical provider for many  millions of formerly  insured but now uninsured citizens who decide to  forgo Obamacare.</p>
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