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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689156</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Neo

I read that this morning as I was making the rounds, then returned here.
&lt;b&gt;My summary:&lt;/b&gt; They [the establishment] kind-of blew it because they didn&#039;t realize how close it would be. In that case, they would&#039;ve contributed more money that might&#039;ve made the difference.

(BTW, there&#039;s no link to Ace&#039;s article in this post...it&#039;s in your most recent post)

This race was close enough that the establishment should&#039;ve contributed. That is, if they were more interested in have a Republican in the governor&#039;s seat than in seeing the Tea Party discredited; which I don&#039;t believe for a second.

Here&#039;s a link to a Protein Wisdom article that accurately sums up my thinking: http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51854]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neo</p>
<p>I read that this morning as I was making the rounds, then returned here.<br />
<b>My summary:</b> They [the establishment] kind-of blew it because they didn&#8217;t realize how close it would be. In that case, they would&#8217;ve contributed more money that might&#8217;ve made the difference.</p>
<p>(BTW, there&#8217;s no link to Ace&#8217;s article in this post&#8230;it&#8217;s in your most recent post)</p>
<p>This race was close enough that the establishment should&#8217;ve contributed. That is, if they were more interested in have a Republican in the governor&#8217;s seat than in seeing the Tea Party discredited; which I don&#8217;t believe for a second.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a link to a Protein Wisdom article that accurately sums up my thinking: <a href="http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51854" rel="nofollow ugc">http://proteinwisdom.com/?p=51854</a></p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689151</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 20:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wolla Dalbo:

You&#039;re welcome, but that Frogman post was written after the 2012 presidential election.

It is still relevant to the libertarian conundrum in Virginia and elsewhere, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolla Dalbo:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome, but that Frogman post was written after the 2012 presidential election.</p>
<p>It is still relevant to the libertarian conundrum in Virginia and elsewhere, though.</p>
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		By: Ymarsakar		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689138</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are people under the impression that the votes for McAuliffe actually consisted of real humans?

Doesn&#039;t take much to fabricate enough to get a minor lead there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are people under the impression that the votes for McAuliffe actually consisted of real humans?</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t take much to fabricate enough to get a minor lead there.</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689117</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neo--Thanks for the link @ 1:26 PM to the &quot;Dissident Frogman&quot; for the perceptive and well written ideas of a Frenchman who is no fan of socialism about this VA election, its significance, and what it augurs for the future of the U.S.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neo&#8211;Thanks for the link @ 1:26 PM to the &#8220;Dissident Frogman&#8221; for the perceptive and well written ideas of a Frenchman who is no fan of socialism about this VA election, its significance, and what it augurs for the future of the U.S.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689111</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oldflyer:

Did you read Ace&#039;s post?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldflyer:</p>
<p>Did you read Ace&#8217;s post?</p>
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		By: Wolla Dalbo		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689108</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see a lot of commenters on various blogs saying, “don’t blame Libertarian voters”, and that the blame is Cucinnellis or the Repulblican party’s, anybody else but the poor Libertarian voters. 

But, the fact of the matter is that, despite what was reported to be McAuliff’s &quot;commanding&quot; 17 point lead of a week or so ago, by election day the fallout from  Obamacare had whittled that double digit lead down to a couple of points. Moreover, despite only token support from the Republican Party (reportedly $3 mil. and that only early on vs. the $9 mil spent and continuing support for the last Republican candidate) and despite whatever flaws Cucinnelli or his campaign might have had, they got within two points (45,000 votes out of more than 2,200,000 total votes cast) of beating McAuliff.  

So, if a wealthy Democrat contributor and Obama bundler had not supplied to money to pay professionals to gather enough signatures to put Sarvis, the supposed “Libertarian” candidate, on the ballot, the 145,000 votes cast for him that were siphoned off from the conservative Cucinnelli would have been more than three times the number of votes it would have taken to have given the election to Cucinnelli, who lost by only 45,000 votes.

Thus, it was pretty clearly the siphoning off of those 145,000 votes from conservative voters to faux Libertarian candidate Sarvis that was the decisive factor that caused Cucinnelli’s loss.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see a lot of commenters on various blogs saying, “don’t blame Libertarian voters”, and that the blame is Cucinnellis or the Repulblican party’s, anybody else but the poor Libertarian voters. </p>
<p>But, the fact of the matter is that, despite what was reported to be McAuliff’s &#8220;commanding&#8221; 17 point lead of a week or so ago, by election day the fallout from  Obamacare had whittled that double digit lead down to a couple of points. Moreover, despite only token support from the Republican Party (reportedly $3 mil. and that only early on vs. the $9 mil spent and continuing support for the last Republican candidate) and despite whatever flaws Cucinnelli or his campaign might have had, they got within two points (45,000 votes out of more than 2,200,000 total votes cast) of beating McAuliff.  </p>
<p>So, if a wealthy Democrat contributor and Obama bundler had not supplied to money to pay professionals to gather enough signatures to put Sarvis, the supposed “Libertarian” candidate, on the ballot, the 145,000 votes cast for him that were siphoned off from the conservative Cucinnelli would have been more than three times the number of votes it would have taken to have given the election to Cucinnelli, who lost by only 45,000 votes.</p>
<p>Thus, it was pretty clearly the siphoning off of those 145,000 votes from conservative voters to faux Libertarian candidate Sarvis that was the decisive factor that caused Cucinnelli’s loss.</p>
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		By: Oldflyer		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689104</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t blame the Libertarians particularly; especially for making a pre-election statement to the pollsters.  I do not understand the logic which at the moment of truth, when it is time to actually cast a ballot,  allows a person of Libertarian principles to  do anything to benefit a McAuliffe; especially when the prospects situation for their preferred candidate are hopeless.  Cucinelli offered a clear alternative to the Statist with the slimey personal reputation.

I do blame the GOP establishment.  They have drawn their line; they would rather have a Democrat elected than support a genuine Conservative.  I used to say that we had to support the GOP because they were the only viable alternative to the committed Statists; now I must rethink.

There are reports that Christie turned down a request to come to Virginia for just one rally to offset all of the  high powered Democrats pouring into the Old Dominion.  Reportedly, and as always these reports must be evaluated on their merits, he did not want to compromise his own brand of &quot;self proclaimed&quot; Conservatism.  It will be interesting to see if he denies, or tries to explain any of the reports.

Kit, you lucky soul.  We moved from Fauquier County to SoCal last year to be near family.  Grand children are fun, and the winter weather is nice, but, oh,  how we miss Fauquier-- election day being no exception.  I handed out GOP propaganda at the polling place, and greeted  all of those lovely, reliable Fauquier voters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t blame the Libertarians particularly; especially for making a pre-election statement to the pollsters.  I do not understand the logic which at the moment of truth, when it is time to actually cast a ballot,  allows a person of Libertarian principles to  do anything to benefit a McAuliffe; especially when the prospects situation for their preferred candidate are hopeless.  Cucinelli offered a clear alternative to the Statist with the slimey personal reputation.</p>
<p>I do blame the GOP establishment.  They have drawn their line; they would rather have a Democrat elected than support a genuine Conservative.  I used to say that we had to support the GOP because they were the only viable alternative to the committed Statists; now I must rethink.</p>
<p>There are reports that Christie turned down a request to come to Virginia for just one rally to offset all of the  high powered Democrats pouring into the Old Dominion.  Reportedly, and as always these reports must be evaluated on their merits, he did not want to compromise his own brand of &#8220;self proclaimed&#8221; Conservatism.  It will be interesting to see if he denies, or tries to explain any of the reports.</p>
<p>Kit, you lucky soul.  We moved from Fauquier County to SoCal last year to be near family.  Grand children are fun, and the winter weather is nice, but, oh,  how we miss Fauquier&#8211; election day being no exception.  I handed out GOP propaganda at the polling place, and greeted  all of those lovely, reliable Fauquier voters.</p>
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		By: neo-neocon		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689103</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 19:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Matt_SE:

Did you read the post of Ace&#039;s I linked to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt_SE:</p>
<p>Did you read the post of Ace&#8217;s I linked to?</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
		<link>https://thenewneo.com/2013/11/05/election-results/#comment-689076</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[From the second article:
&quot;Oh, by the way, it is worth noting that with all the exit polls examined, Virginians split on who to blame for the government shutdown. 47% blamed the GOP and 46% blamed the Democrats. The shutdown too seems like it was not what did in Cuccinelli.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the second article:<br />
&#8220;Oh, by the way, it is worth noting that with all the exit polls examined, Virginians split on who to blame for the government shutdown. 47% blamed the GOP and 46% blamed the Democrats. The shutdown too seems like it was not what did in Cuccinelli.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Matt_SE		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2013 18:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Two good articles on events yesterday at Redstate: http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/personal-reflections-on-yesterdays-elections/

http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/virginia/

And one on the perfidy of the NRSC: http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/the-national-republican-senatorial-committee-torches-its-credibility/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two good articles on events yesterday at Redstate: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/personal-reflections-on-yesterdays-elections/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/personal-reflections-on-yesterdays-elections/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/virginia/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/virginia/</a></p>
<p>And one on the perfidy of the NRSC: <a href="http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/the-national-republican-senatorial-committee-torches-its-credibility/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.redstate.com/2013/11/06/the-national-republican-senatorial-committee-torches-its-credibility/</a></p>
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